Revolving door GM???

[wist43]

Didn't mean to single you out Wist. Sorry. I always respected your posting even if I don't agree with parts of it.

The big thing for me was switching to the 3-4... as I said about QB's, they're just too tough to project; but, other positions, and philosophy - I'll debate that all day long.

We got lucky with Rodgers... and not just that he turned out to be good, but that he may turn out to be great!!! Wow, really, I can't believe the leap he's made... it's hard to change your delivery, and had he not been able to do that, he would have struggled mightily to succeed. Rodgers still has an unorthodox delivery, having developed into more of a jump/throw... ball comes out of there very quickly. It certainly isn't the delivery he came into the league with.

[Smidgeon]

The big thing for me was switching to the 3-4... as I said about QB's, they're just too tough to project; but, other positions, and philosophy - I'll debate that all day long.

We got lucky with Rodgers... and not just that he turned out to be good, but that he may turn out to be great!!! Wow, really, I can't believe the leap he's made... it's hard to change your delivery, and had he not been able to do that, he would have struggled mightily to succeed. Rodgers still has an unorthodox delivery, having developed into more of a jump/throw... ball comes out of there very quickly. It certainly isn't the delivery he came into the league with.

At least the delivery is unorthodox good instead of unorthodox bad (**cough**TimTebow**cough**)

[Little Whiskey]

At least the delivery is unorthodox good instead of unorthodox bad (**cough**TimTebow**cough**)

or just straight up bad with a side order of whine (***cough**Jay Cutler***cough***)

[Lurker64]

Philip Rivers also has a very unorthodox delivery, but it doesn't keep him from racking up impressive stats. Playoff wins are another issue, but I can hardly say that's his fault entirely.

[Smidgeon]

or just straight up bad with a side order of whine (***cough**Jay Cutler***cough***)

Why are you concerned about Cutler? He plays for the Bears, and thus I am happy with bad.

[Little Whiskey]

Why are you concerned about Cutler? He plays for the Bears, and thus I am happy with bad.

there were some on this board who thought he should be in GreenBay.

[Packers4Glory]

QB mechanics are overrated and mostly just bs talk. Plenty of good quality QB's don't have the best mechanics. What makes a QB good or great is

1. arm strength (enough to make the throws needed. He doesn't have to have a rocket)
2. Vision.
3. Reading the defense and knowing where to go w/ the ball
4. footwork. Can fall into mechanics technically, but just dropping back correctly and quickly as well as being able to step up or scramble to buy time.

How the SOB actually delivers the ball is about as overrated and overstated as it gets.

Most importantly, an O-line.

Many teams spend tons of money and high picks on a QB, and then promptly toss him in behind a horrible line. Pretty much a one way ticket to failure and a ruined career. (Carr)

also

Stability in your coaching staff. Alex Smith stood ZERO chance and I don't think Rodgers would have fared any better.


People really should take note on how Rodgers was developed. I think at least 2 years serving as the back up and maybe getting spot duty is ideal. Don't bow to the pressure of getting your high dollar draft pick out there at all costs...because its quite likely its setting him up for failure.

[Scott Campbell]

Hanie sure was a side armer.

[mraynrand]

Many teams spend tons of money and high picks on a QB, and then promptly toss him in behind a horrible line. Pretty much a one way ticket to failure and a ruined career. (Carr)

I thought I heard someone call my name!

[sharpe1027]

1. arm strength (enough to make the throws needed. He doesn't have to have a rocket)
2. Vision.
3. Reading the defense and knowing where to go w/ the ball
4. footwork. Can fall into mechanics technically, but just dropping back correctly and quickly as well as being able to step up or scramble to buy time. .

If you don't have much accuracy, the rest doesn't matter that much. Really good accuracy can make up a lack of quality in the other areas too.

[Lurker64]

If you don't have much accuracy, the rest doesn't matter that much. Really good accuracy can make up a lack of quality in the other areas too.

Accuracy is just a function of things like footwork, delivery, and anticipation. It's not like quarterbacks have some magical "accuracy" statistic that dictates where the ball will go.

[Smidgeon]

How the SOB actually delivers the ball is about as overrated and overstated as it gets.

I don't entirely agree. The speed of a delivery, I think, would matter a lot. A lightning quick release is way more desireable than a long wind-up given identical accuracy.

[RashanGary]

Phillip Rivers said one QB he admired in the league was Aaron Rodgers, for his tight mechanics.


For the record, I love his quick sort of "jump" pass. If you ever see pictures of Rodgers throwing, the ball is always coming out at the highest point possible. For a guy who stands 6'2", he has a delivery like he's 6'4".

Listening to Aikman the last few weeks and reading what Rivers said, I'm beginning to think AR has near perfect throwing mechanics. His release is quick as a whip. He gets the ball out at the highest possible point over lineman with pinpoint accuracy. He's unique, but his throwing mechanics are respected and admired around the NFL.

[pbmax]

The big thing for me was switching to the 3-4... as I said about QB's, they're just too tough to project; but, other positions, and philosophy - I'll debate that all day long.

We got lucky with Rodgers... and not just that he turned out to be good, but that he may turn out to be great!!! Wow, really, I can't believe the leap he's made... it's hard to change your delivery, and had he not been able to do that, he would have struggled mightily to succeed. Rodgers still has an unorthodox delivery, having developed into more of a jump/throw... ball comes out of there very quickly. It certainly isn't the delivery he came into the league with.

I think with Rodgers there was not much to change except his carrying point, which was a Tedford thing. So 95% of his delivery was normal or optimal, the high carrying point was the bone of contention. And even McCarthy said simply by not emphasizing it, it will come down naturally.

[Little Whiskey]

scott mitchell good mechanics?