NAIL IS IN THE COFFIN

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Favre's just seems bitter with Thompson for not allowing him to play G.M. Same thing happened in Chicago with Mike Jordan at the end. Kind of funny since the Packers would have had a real hard time signing Rivera and Wahle. (Rivera would have been a bad re-signing since he's proven over the hill since then.) Anybody sad we didn't hire Mooch?

In the transcript, Favre expressed frustration with three incidents in the recent Packers past involving Thompson.

In one instance, Favre told Van Susteren that “I worked my butt off two years ago to try to get them to sign Randy Moss,” adding that he was willing to give up salary to land the talented receiver.

But Favre said Thompson denied publicly that Favre had lobbied to get Moss, which Favre said was not the case. Moss signed with the New England Patriots.

In a second instance, Favre said he once tried to convince Thompson to re-sign Marco Rivera and Mike Wahle, two key linemen, but the two got away and signed elsewhere.

In a third case, Favre told Van Susteren he tried to convince Thompson to interview Steve Mariucci, an old friend, for the head coaching job vacated by Mike Sherman. Favre said Thompson ended up hiring Mike McCarthy instead.

In retrospect, those are all pretty good moves. The Moss thing would have been nice, but our offense is good enough as is.

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I didn't read the first 7 pages. Anybody talk about how the team will react? Personally, I'm not sure Favre has that much support in the locker room anymore. I think the team will be okay with him getting traded, so I don't see it dividing the locker room or anything.

I listened to an interview on WSSP (ESPN affiliate in Milw.):

http://wssp.radiotown.com/audio/garycliff/ENTIRE%20INTERVIEW.mp3

She stated that Favre wanted to be released to avoid having a divided locker room. I think he could have made his opinion voiced a lot sooner, like when it was announced e wanted to be released.

wssp isn't espn, they are the local sports channel. Just pointing it out. Gary and Cliff crack me up daily!

[HarveyWallbangers]

I sense that most of the players really do believe in Rodgers. I don't believe it's just to help him with his confidence. Just reading comments over the last two years--from "he's ready" comments by Al to "Human Jugs Machine" comments by Jennings to seeing him in practice evry day--I think they think he can get the job done. The guys on the team have seen Favre not at his best in the playoffs. They weren't here when he was at his best. They've also seen him grow more distant from the team, and they also have to be tired of all the drama.

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I sense that most of the players really do believe in Rodgers. I don't believe it's just to help him with his confidence. Just reading comments over the last two years--from "he's ready" comments by Al to "Human Jugs Machine" comments by Jennings to seeing him in practice evry day--I think they think he can get the job done. The guys on the team have seen Favre not at his best in the playoffs. They weren't here when he was at his best. They've also seen him grow more distant from the team, and they also have to be tired of all the drama.

I agree with that, and I do think they have confidence, but I think they're more confident in Favre than the unexperienced QB to get them to the super bowl this year.

[GBRulz]

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I'm pretty sure Favre was burned out from working 24/7 on football while A-rod was either getting hurt or out drinking with GBR. Some commitment to the game he has. STFU with your stupid propaganda.

I don't even know that he is a drinker. One time he had a beer with us, but other than that I've never seen him with a drink.

Then again, after all this drama he might start....

I was just trying to make a point. I think you mentioned running into him at Curly's once

I've been out with him on a few different occasions. He's a really nice guy. In fact, I think I posted this before on how he mentioned to a friend of mine around last Feb/March that if he wasn't starting this year, he would demand a trade.

In fact, I sometimes wonder if he didn't go to TT with the same feelings, which is why they are so bent on moving forward with him. Heck, I dunno...all this speculation lately is hurting.

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I'm pretty sure Favre was burned out from working 24/7 on football while A-rod was either getting hurt or out drinking with GBR. Some commitment to the game he has. STFU with your stupid propaganda.

I don't even know that he is a drinker. One time he had a beer with us, but other than that I've never seen him with a drink.

Then again, after all this drama he might start....

I was just trying to make a point. I think you mentioned running into him at Curly's once

I've been out with him on a few different occasions. He's a really nice guy. In fact, I think I posted this before on how he mentioned to a friend of mine around last Feb/March that if he wasn't starting this year, he would demand a trade.

In fact, I sometimes wonder if he didn't go to TT with the same feelings, which is why they are so bent on moving forward with him. Heck, I dunno...all this speculation lately is hurting.

I would bet my bottom dollar that once the "itch" stuff happened he made it crystal clear that its him or me. I think Favre will be back when all is said and done and Rodgers will be gone or unhappily riding the pine.

[Packerarcher]

Harv, I think the team wants the best QB possible back there taking snaps... the thing that cures all is winning and guess who's the winning'est qb of all time....

I really would hope that's what the team wants,but are the wants/needs of TT's ego bigger than the team's.

[The Shadow]

[quote="Packerarcher"]

Harv, I think the team wants the best QB possible back there taking snaps... the thing that cures all is winning and guess who's the winning'est qb of all time....

I really would hope that's what the team wants,but is what TT's ego want's bigger.[/quote]



Yes, a Super Bowl.

[GBRulz]

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I would bet my bottom dollar that once the "itch" stuff happened he made it crystal clear that its him or me. I think Favre will be back when all is said and done and Rodgers will be gone or unhappily riding the pine.

I agree with your first sentence. However, I just don't have the same feeling that Brett will be back. If he would commit for two years, that might be a different story but heck...he can't even commit for more than one year at a time.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Brett said when he talked to MM a week or so ago telling him he wanted to come back, MM huffed and puffed around. Brett said he wasn't ready to decide in March and wished he could have had til Training Camp to decide.

Why should MM be anything but upset when Favre tells him at this ridiculously late date that he wants to come back?

FAvre is acting completely selfish.

[Bossman641]

Brett said when he talked to MM a week or so ago telling him he wanted to come back, MM huffed and puffed around. Brett said he wasn't ready to decide in March and wished he could have had til Training Camp to decide.

Why should MM be anything but upset when Favre tells him at this ridiculously late date that he wants to come back?

FAvre is acting completely selfish.

HH, don't you understand? This is Brett Favre we are talking about here. They should have sounded the trumpets and rolled out the red carpet. TT and MM each could have kissed the SB ring and then taken to groveling at his feet.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Sounds like if they would have given him until training camp to make his decision, he would be a Packer and all of this would have been avoided.

Unbelievable. How is a team supposed to draft and prepare in the preseason when they don't know who their QB is going to be? This is a completely unreasonable expectation of a Diva. He makes Madonna look like a simple cockney flower girl.

[Packerarcher]

With all of the supposed lies going down on both sides no one knows who to beleive. I through all of this have sided with Brett,not just because he is arguably the best player to ever put on a Packer uni. Not because of all of his kick ass Qb stats or even his durability. Not even because he would give the Packers the best chance to win this season. But because I BELIEVE him,he isn't doing this as a stunt to make money or for publicity. He JUST WANTS TO PLAY FOOTBALL. He really has nothing to gain by lying. The Packer management however have EVERYTHING to gain by putting thier spin on this. They CAN'T look bad in deals like this,already being in a small market a bad image costs them money with both fans and future player prospects. If this whole deal were over money then brett might have something to lie about,but as I said Green Bay could/is loose money on this. So you all beleive who you want,but I know the Packers management have been far from truthful on this.

[DannoMac21]

I know the Favre worshipers on this board are going to attack me for this, but whatever...

Favre's a jag. He's Terrell Owens right now. Me and plenty of other insightful NFL fans are losing respect for Favre by the second. Think about what Aaron Rodgers is going through right now? People like to call Ted Thompson dumb for not taking Favre back. And if Favre comes back, we don't win the SB, and Rodgers leaves elsewhere and becomes a stud? Then who's dumb?

The way Favre has handled this is immature. He wanted to come back, we were going to let him, he backs out. Favre's fault. Now people want to blame the Packers for not letting him back when he could've just not retired in the first place? Absolutely unbelievable.

He himself said he wasn't 100% committed. Why do we want someone like that? What is this going to show to all the young players? What's the locker room going to be like?

Jordy Nelson has been catching passes from Aaron Rodgers. He's used to Rodgers. Don't get all these young guys in another new scheme. Aaron Rodgers is going to be damn fine at quarterback. Imagine if the Bears from 2006 had an Aaron Rodgers at QB. We have a complete, young team right now. Leave it that way.

Shut up Brett. You had your chance. Don't be a selfish prick and put more pressure on Rodgers than there already was.

[Packerarcher]

[quote="The Shadow"]

Harv, I think the team wants the best QB possible back there taking snaps... the thing that cures all is winning and guess who's the winning'est qb of all time....

I really would hope that's what the team wants,but is what TT's ego want's bigger.[/quote]



Yes, a Super Bowl.

If he wants a Supre Bowl he had better start kissing Favres ASS.