NAIL IS IN THE COFFIN

[cpk1994]

Re: NAIL IS IN THE COFFIN

Really? So the days he is excused from working in camp, he's working just as hard as the fourth year vets?

And exactly how do you know how much he works during the week?

IT's not right for Favre to leave his teammates to work and then just show up on Sundays like he's one of the guys. I think Brett Favre lost his ground and thinks he's above his teammates. I don't think MM or TT were ready to take him back with the disrespect he's shown to the guys he plays with.

That's a load of crap Harrell.

Favre works harder in camp and during the season as anyone on the roster. Just because he needs to take more time to recover during the offseason due to the fact he is 38 years of age and his body isn't the same as it was 15 years ago doesn't mean Favre is some kind of diva.

Favre hasn't disrespected anyone IMO.

Woodson and Harris don't make it regularly to those either. They are TC type of guys as well.

I hate to break it to you Merlin, buit they have made all OTA's this year so your argument is garbage.

[cpk1994]

I see a problem with Favre joining the Vikkings...............John David Booty wears #4. What would Favre have to pay to wear his number?

Seriously though, TT does have some leverage here. To release Favre would be foolish for the Pack.

TT and the Packers have ZERO leverage... Favre can make this a pain in the ass as much as he wants too..

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...o&confirm=true

Wrong. The PAckers have ALL the leverage. Favre can't play ANYWHERE without TT letting it happen. Favre's be ego prevents the rest.

[Tarlam!]

I think Brett Favre (or his advisors) made so many errors, it simply is not funny. When I read the timeline of events, it just makes me want to crawl and hide some place.

All he really had to do was "unretire". He needed no one's permission to do so. He needn't have asked "do you think I'm wanted back".

Instead, he wanted to feel wanted. Wanted to be begged back. Wanted some TT/M3 "love".

That's why I cringe a bit when he states "I only want to play football". He wants more than to just play football. He wants to be begged to play football.

The Favre camp are solely responsible for the Public Relations chaos and public face off we are now witnessing.

Nobody had to lose face. Brett instructs Bus to notify TT and Goodell that he will be reporting to TC. Period. Then, there is a press release and that's it.

After that it is TT's job to pacify A-Rod, M3's job to put the best QB on the field.

Instead, Packer fans are divided, probably team mates are to.

I see no blame can be laid upon Management for the way they dealt with the Favre camp salami tactics.

This post does not intend to make any statement on where to go from here. It is my retrospect on how we got here.

Unfortunately, there must now be a public humiliation of one of the parties. Fans that will say "I told ya so" regardless of the future.

[woodbuck27]

I think Brett Favre (or his advisors) made so many errors, it simply is not funny. When I read the timeline of events, it just makes me want to crawl and hide some place.

All he really had to do was "unretire". He needed no one's permission to do so. He needn't have asked "do you think I'm wanted back".

Instead, he wanted to feel wanted. Wanted to be begged back. Wanted some TT/M3 "love".

That's why I cringe a bit when he states "I only want to play football". He wants more than to just play football. He wants to be begged to play football.

The Favre camp are solely responsible for the Public Relations chaos and public face off we are now witnessing.

Nobody had to lose face. Brett instructs Bus to notify TT and Goodell that he will be reporting to TC. Period. Then, there is a press release and that's it.

After that it is TT's job to pacify A-Rod, M3's job to put the best QB on the field.

Instead, Packer fans are divided, probably team mates are to.

I see no blame can be laid upon Management for the way they dealt with the Favre camp salami tactics.

This post does not intend to make any statement on where to go from here. It is my retrospect on how we got here.

Unfortunately, there must now be a public humiliation of one of the parties. Fans that will say "I told ya so" regardless of the future.

Right at this moment I believe that Packer management played this just as they felt they could. Favre announced that retirement on what? March 6th? way too early for him and his personality. He felt pressure to retire. That's what he told us.

That is his worst sin for all those down on him. He needed to get to Brett Favre. Be himself.

I'm pretty tired of this mess that goes on and on and has to stop. Brett Favre has to retire or be prepared to get a lot worse attention that even some Packer fans are giving him now. It's brutal to read the negative opinion in it's worst and most inaccurate terms here.

We're simply seeing Brett Favre again want to play football folks. Nothing really dramatic. He wants to play and 'of course' he can't play in Green Bay.They won't release him and if TT doesn't get the deal he EXPECTS Favre won't be traded.

This is at a deadlock as I see it and the man suffering is Brett Favre. He wants the deadlock to end.TT isn't exactly known for his speed in doing business.

COME ON Packer fans here. We do know the scoop. Both sides are letting us down.

[sheepshead]

TT will loosen that statement about being a backup a bit. Brett will come in and win the starting job (surprise) and we get one more shot with Favre under center. (my take)

[woodbuck27]

TT will loosen that statement about being a backup a bit. Brett will come in and win the starting job (surprise) and we get one more shot with Favre under center. (my take)

Too easy of a solution. Too wonderful too, very very nice.

Too much dirty water under the Green Bay Packer bridge Re: TT and Favre I feel. It must end.

[woodbuck27]

I see a problem with Favre joining the Vikkings...............John David Booty wears #4. What would Favre have to pay to wear his number?

Seriously though, TT does have some leverage here. To release Favre would be foolish for the Pack.

TT and the Packers have ZERO leverage... Favre can make this a pain in the ass as much as he wants too..

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...o&confirm=true

Wrong. The PAckers have ALL the leverage. Favre can't play ANYWHERE without TT letting it happen. Favre's be ego prevents the rest.

F U !!!!

[woodbuck27]

Brett said at first they told him he would not be playing in Green Bay. Then MM said he can't see him playing anywhere else. Then they said he could be a backup to Rodgers. Favre said the only time he talked to TT was June 20. He pretty much denied text messaging him a week or two ago. Favre, at the end, said he may not play anywhere. Kinda strange, mean, shocking interview. I don't know what to think. The only thing I'm pretty sure of is he won't ever be a Packer.

Coming from YOU then I'd agree with that assessment.

D I V O R C E.

Huh?

I meant things don't look good for Favre in a Packer uniform now Brando19 . Your a huge Favre supporter as I view you here.

That ''he may never play anywhere'' is a 'play on TT's ways' not his definite intention of Packers or retire. Favre is pissed.

DIVORCE = TT and Favre will finally end their 'in my view'. They have to put it mildly a poor relationship.

TT didn't want to win with Favre behind center. He could have taken the couple of steps we needed in this off season, but 'the Favre may come back' issue hung over his head. So TT continues to claim were re-building.He certainly is right now.

Look at all that CAP space. His RB still not signed. No significant addition again in FA'cy. It's been all ...don't encourage Favre and the cost of $12 Million. Those are 'the facts of life'... demonstrated even in the Green Bay Packer organization.

Sadly the fan protest over this mess after today may change things for the worst. Favre may indeed come back to more of the crap he's not enjoyed. His advisors have to work out a strategy to force TT's hand or TT will sit on him. Favre wants to play football and competet. Same ole Brett.

Same Ole Ted Thompson... Re: Brett Favre.

That's what we're seeing and...... as clumsy as he has to be. Favre's dealing with Ted Thompson. HOLY MACKERAL.

[Bossman641]

I think Brett Favre (or his advisors) made so many errors, it simply is not funny. When I read the timeline of events, it just makes me want to crawl and hide some place.

All he really had to do was "unretire". He needed no one's permission to do so. He needn't have asked "do you think I'm wanted back".

Instead, he wanted to feel wanted. Wanted to be begged back. Wanted some TT/M3 "love".

That's why I cringe a bit when he states "I only want to play football". He wants more than to just play football. He wants to be begged to play football.

The Favre camp are solely responsible for the Public Relations chaos and public face off we are now witnessing.

Nobody had to lose face. Brett instructs Bus to notify TT and Goodell that he will be reporting to TC. Period. Then, there is a press release and that's it.

After that it is TT's job to pacify A-Rod, M3's job to put the best QB on the field.

Instead, Packer fans are divided, probably team mates are to.

I see no blame can be laid upon Management for the way they dealt with the Favre camp salami tactics.

This post does not intend to make any statement on where to go from here. It is my retrospect on how we got here.

Unfortunately, there must now be a public humiliation of one of the parties. Fans that will say "I told ya so" regardless of the future.

This is exactly how I see it too. Favre's camp fucked everything up. Now they wanna sweep everything under the rug, not take responsibility, and paint it as "all Brett wants to do is play, what is wrong with that."

All this BS about not being loved. I'm sure Favre expected the Packers to be thrilled when inklings of him wanting to come back started showing up in June. He thought they'd see him as the white knight. Instead, he got a lukewarm or even negative reaction and we are now faced with the situation we are at.

TT and MM's only "mistake" is not welcoming back a 38 year old QB who skipped the offseason.

[woodbuck27]

I think Brett Favre (or his advisors) made so many errors, it simply is not funny. When I read the timeline of events, it just makes me want to crawl and hide some place.

All he really had to do was "unretire". He needed no one's permission to do so. He needn't have asked "do you think I'm wanted back".

Instead, he wanted to feel wanted. Wanted to be begged back. Wanted some TT/M3 "love".

That's why I cringe a bit when he states "I only want to play football". He wants more than to just play football. He wants to be begged to play football.

The Favre camp are solely responsible for the Public Relations chaos and public face off we are now witnessing.

Nobody had to lose face. Brett instructs Bus to notify TT and Goodell that he will be reporting to TC. Period. Then, there is a press release and that's it.

After that it is TT's job to pacify A-Rod, M3's job to put the best QB on the field.

Instead, Packer fans are divided, probably team mates are to.

I see no blame can be laid upon Management for the way they dealt with the Favre camp salami tactics.

This post does not intend to make any statement on where to go from here. It is my retrospect on how we got here.

Unfortunately, there must now be a public humiliation of one of the parties. Fans that will say "I told ya so" regardless of the future.

This is exactly how I see it too. Favre's camp fucked everything up. Now they wanna sweep everything under the rug, not take responsibility, and paint it as "all Brett wants to do is play, what is wrong with that."

All this BS about not being loved. I'm sure Favre expected the Packers to be thrilled when inklings of him wanting to come back started showing up in June. He thought they'd see him as the white knight. Instead, he got a lukewarm or even negative reaction and we are now faced with the situation we are at.

TT and MM's only "mistake" is not welcoming back a 38 year old QB who skipped the offseason.

Still TWO SIDES. What a shame.

That's who's problem now Packer fans?

[Chevelle2]

Its AR problem. I feel bad for that guy.

[pbmax]

Actually, I believe Favre has given them leverage, should they choose to use it.

He has said he is not coming back unless he is the starter. The Packers seem to be saying its not that simple. If they sit on his rights, the only option left to him, other than more interviews, is to reinstate.

At that point, the Packers would have to choose whether to call his bluff or not. If they put him on the roster, then he needs to report, which he said he wouldn't do. This is their leverage.

But the Packers would need to be prepared for the mother of all distractions if he did report.

I see a problem with Favre joining the Vikkings...............John David Booty wears #4. What would Favre have to pay to wear his number?

Seriously though, TT does have some leverage here. To release Favre would be foolish for the Pack.

TT and the Packers have ZERO leverage... Favre can make this a pain in the ass as much as he wants too..

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...o&confirm=true

[pbmax]

Sheep we were talking about this last night, is there a statement on record of T2 or M3 saying backup? All we could find was the need to determine roles.

If you know of the statement, please post it. But walking back a role to be determined is pretty simple.

TT will loosen that statement about being a backup a bit. Brett will come in and win the starting job (surprise) and we get one more shot with Favre under center. (my take)

[cpk1994]

I see a problem with Favre joining the Vikkings...............John David Booty wears #4. What would Favre have to pay to wear his number?

Seriously though, TT does have some leverage here. To release Favre would be foolish for the Pack.

TT and the Packers have ZERO leverage... Favre can make this a pain in the ass as much as he wants too..

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...o&confirm=true

Wrong. The PAckers have ALL the leverage. Favre can't play ANYWHERE without TT letting it happen. Favre's be ego prevents the rest.

F U !!!!

Classy respnose as usual from the resident incoherent tool.

[The Leaper]

At that point, the Packers would have to choose whether to call his bluff or not. If they put him on the roster, then he needs to report, which he said he wouldn't do. This is their leverage.

Well, if Favre reinstates, the Packers HAVE to put him on the roster. They don't have a choice in the matter.

However, I agree that the Packers have created a situation that is to their advantage. They won't release Favre...and probably won't trade him either, as no team is going to give up anything of real value for him except for a couple teams in the NFC that Thompson probably doesn't want to trade Favre to. So, Favre either reports to camp or he stays retired.

The choice right now is entirely on Brett Favre.