Favre Trade Done?

[Pacopete4]

Why is it complicated? Your starting QB from a 13-3 season is coming back to the team before training camp... thats not complicated..

it might suck for Arod, but thats how the game works.. you play your best cards, you dont fold em

The important thing I think you're missing is that it's apparent in Brett's words and actions that he doesn't want to come back to Green Bay. At least, why else would he be burning every bridge he can get his hands on?

Why wouldn't he? You give me one good reason he shouldn't light it up from here on out how he has been mistreated by TT and now MM.... HE WANTS, I REPEAT... WANTS GO PLAY IN GB.... THEY (TT/MM) DO NOT WANT HIM TO PLAY IN GB... thats where this is a problem, he wants to play... fuckin let him

[Bossman641]

Why is it complicated? Your starting QB from a 13-3 season is coming back to the team before training camp... thats not complicated..

it might suck for Arod, but thats how the game works.. you play your best cards, you dont fold em

The important thing I think you're missing is that it's apparent in Brett's words and actions that he doesn't want to come back to Green Bay. At least, why else would he be burning every bridge he can get his hands on?

Why wouldn't he? You give me one good reason he shouldn't light it up from here on out how he has been mistreated by TT and now MM.... HE WANTS, I REPEAT... WANTS GO PLAY IN GB.... THEY (TT/MM) DO NOT WANT HIM TO PLAY IN GB... thats where this is a problem, he wants to play... fuckin let him

Question for you PacoPete.

Where do you draw the line? If Favre showed up at the beginning of TC demanding to start would you let him? What about during TC? At the end? A few days before Week 1? When do you tell Brett Favre no?

[imscott72]

I am not a trade expert, but what is the possibility of Tampa doing the trade with GB... Then Tampa starts talking with MN or Chicago about an additional trade where Favre ultimately ends up with one of those teams.

Is that something that could happen?

I've been asking this question for days, got no reply from this pathetic bunch of football "experts."

I guess this is a real concern. Particularly if TT trades to AFC for low draft pick. That team can just turn around and trade to Vikes for higher draft pick.

Yeah, it's a huge concern. I just didn't know if the Packers trade to whoever, that they can include some kind of clause that states he cannot be traded to another team.

Simple remedy to fix this. Just pull what the Vikings pull and insert a "poison pill" in the contract that says if they trade him to "X" teams then they lose they're next 5 1st round draft picks or something similar.

[Pacopete4]

Why is it complicated? Your starting QB from a 13-3 season is coming back to the team before training camp... thats not complicated..

it might suck for Arod, but thats how the game works.. you play your best cards, you dont fold em

The important thing I think you're missing is that it's apparent in Brett's words and actions that he doesn't want to come back to Green Bay. At least, why else would he be burning every bridge he can get his hands on?

Why wouldn't he? You give me one good reason he shouldn't light it up from here on out how he has been mistreated by TT and now MM.... HE WANTS, I REPEAT... WANTS GO PLAY IN GB.... THEY (TT/MM) DO NOT WANT HIM TO PLAY IN GB... thats where this is a problem, he wants to play... fuckin let him

Question for you PacoPete.

Where do you draw the line? If Favre showed up at the beginning of TC demanding to start would you let him? What about during TC? At the end? A few days before Week 1? When do you tell Brett Favre no?

I do draw the line at the start of training camp.. but thats not an issue, is it? because guess what... its before training camp and the guy wants to rock n roll... its a no brainer to let him come back

anything after that, then i'd welcome him as a backup and if he beats out the starter thats what happens...

its pretty simple actually.... we just have large egotistic minds that are blurred by wanting their own success..

[Ballboy]

Why is it complicated? Your starting QB from a 13-3 season is coming back to the team before training camp... thats not complicated..

it might suck for Arod, but thats how the game works.. you play your best cards, you dont fold em

The important thing I think you're missing is that it's apparent in Brett's words and actions that he doesn't want to come back to Green Bay. At least, why else would he be burning every bridge he can get his hands on?

Why wouldn't he? You give me one good reason he shouldn't light it up from here on out how he has been mistreated by TT and now MM.... HE WANTS, I REPEAT... WANTS GO PLAY IN GB.... THEY (TT/MM) DO NOT WANT HIM TO PLAY IN GB... thats where this is a problem, he wants to play... fuckin let him

Question for you PacoPete.

Where do you draw the line? If Favre showed up at the beginning of TC demanding to start would you let him? What about during TC? At the end? A few days before Week 1? When do you tell Brett Favre no?

You tell Brett "no" when he no longer can complete 65% of his passes, throw 28TD's and 15Int's and go 13-3 as the starter.........

[Lurker64]

Why wouldn't he? You give me one good reason he shouldn't light it up from here on out how he has been mistreated by TT and now MM.... HE WANTS, I REPEAT... WANTS GO PLAY IN GB.... THEY (TT/MM) DO NOT WANT HIM TO PLAY IN GB... thats where this is a problem, he wants to play... fuckin let him

Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy have said publicly that they've welcomed Favre back on numerous occasions, Brett Favre is saying publicly that Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy don't want him back.

It's a They Said/He Said situation. Either side *might* by lying to advance their interests. It's best to not speak as though you *know* that Favre is telling the truth and TT/MM are lying, or vice versa.

[Bossman641]

Why is it complicated? Your starting QB from a 13-3 season is coming back to the team before training camp... thats not complicated..

it might suck for Arod, but thats how the game works.. you play your best cards, you dont fold em

The important thing I think you're missing is that it's apparent in Brett's words and actions that he doesn't want to come back to Green Bay. At least, why else would he be burning every bridge he can get his hands on?

Why wouldn't he? You give me one good reason he shouldn't light it up from here on out how he has been mistreated by TT and now MM.... HE WANTS, I REPEAT... WANTS GO PLAY IN GB.... THEY (TT/MM) DO NOT WANT HIM TO PLAY IN GB... thats where this is a problem, he wants to play... fuckin let him

Question for you PacoPete.

Where do you draw the line? If Favre showed up at the beginning of TC demanding to start would you let him? What about during TC? At the end? A few days before Week 1? When do you tell Brett Favre no?

I do draw the line at the start of training camp.. but thats not an issue, is it? because guess what... its before training camp and the guy wants to rock n roll... its a no brainer to let him come back

anything after that, then i'd welcome him as a backup and if he beats out the starter thats what happens...

its pretty simple actually.... we just have large egotistic minds that are blurred by wanting their own success..

I understand it's before training camp, I was simply wondering your answer to the question.

That's where we differ. You think, "He's Brett Favre, he's earned the right to sit back during the summer, and show up at TC."

Myself, and others, see it as him not putting the work needed. I was fine with him missing OTA’s last year. Do you know why? Because he had worked it out with MM and was working with a personal trainer several times a week. I highly doubt he’s been doing that this year. He’s a year older and would need more dedication then he put in last year, not less. What makes you think he'd be willing to harder this year when last?

[Pacopete4]

It's a They Said/He Said situation. Either side *might* by lying to advance their interests. It's best to not speak as though you *know* that Favre is telling the truth and TT/MM are lying, or vice versa.

I actually do have an inside source on Brett's side that I have been told numerous times they do not want him back and that they are trying everything they can to keep him to stay retired... you don't have to believe me, but its what I know

[Lurker64]

I actually do have an inside source on Brett's side that I have been told numerous times they do not want him back and that they are trying everything they can to keep him to stay retired... you don't have to believe me, but its what I know

And I actually have an inside source on Thompsons side that I have been told numerous times that they do want him back but Favre's demands for "feeling wanted" were excessive, irresponsible, and ridiculous, but other than that they've welcomed him back at every opportunity... you don't have to believe me, but it's what I know.

Isn't anonymity on the internet fun?

[Pacopete4]

I didn't figure you'd believe me and thats fine.. but almost every story thats been leaked out to the media I have known a couple days in advance, its the first time ive ever had an inside track with anything this cool in my life... just thought id share

[Lurker64]

The object lesson here is that it's impossible to convince anybody of anything by citing "secret wisdom" that you're unable to share or give a definite source. It's best to just not bother, it tends to just make you look like a liar (even if it's true.)

[Pacopete4]

Ya, very true Lurker and I thought about that and shoulda used my better judgement.. I really wish I could spill my beans on this but they would kill me I think.. no biggie thought, I just want Brett back