Have many reached the wrong conclusion in Favre/Rodgers?

[Zool]

mission=favre hater, TT salad tosser, your too young too even know what Favre has done for this orginization, or to probably think of anybody else but yourself, maybe TT's smooth nutsack

Well thats outa left field. How do you know his sack is smooth?

[pbmax]

Re: Have many reached the wrong conclusion in Favre/Rodgers?

I agree this may be their thought process this year. Especially McCarthy. However, we know that the odds are that it will be several different QBs before we find a viable replacement for Favre. So I am hopeful that Thompson is thinking longer term, that it might eventually be Rodgers, Brohm, Flynn or an undrafted QB from the CFL.

We keep waiting for Thompson to go all in and bet the farm like the Brewers did with CC Sabathia. But I am not sure he will ever do that. Sorry, Bretsky.

I think he may continue churning through quantity, looking for quality at QB. They have new matching five year contracts, so M3 and T2 have time, at least, as much as anyone besides Shanahan or Cowher will ever get.

The Favre calculus is that he is not getting better, but worse, whether its a reaction to cold weather or the drain in the second half of the season. I am also not convinced that Thompson views this as a Super Bowl contender, given he still has holes at DT, pass rusher and in the secondary. They might have the QB, safety or CB of the future on the roster, but a couple of the weak spots are likely to last until the next off season.

The predominant opinion seems to be that the Packers chance of winning THIS YEAR is better with Favre than Rodgers. Could it be that Thompson and McCarthy are of the opinion that their chances of ultimate success are no less with Rodgers than with Favre? Do they perhaps think that at the end of a long, long season the physical strain on a 39-year-old Favre,and the chance of playing in bone chilling weather at Lambeau Field makes Rodgers a better option than Favre for success in the playoffs?

[MJZiggy]

I leave you people alone for 10 stinkin' hours and THIS is what I come home to???? Meds and smooth nutsacks? And even worse, mixed metaphors???

[pbmax]

Maybe instead of an Ignore Poster button, we need an ignore word option. Kind of like Dr. Z's last name used to get altered. Hey, when did Mad allow Zimmerman again?

I leave you people alone for 10 stinkin' hours and THIS is what I come home to???? Meds and smooth nutsacks? And even worse, mixed metaphors???

[mission]

mission=favre hater, TT salad tosser, your too young too even know what Favre has done for this orginization, or to probably think of anybody else but yourself, maybe TT's smooth nutsack

im old enough to properly form somewhat coherent and legible sentences while retaining enough youth to just-as-properly beat the shit out of you if i knew you were anything more than a yeah-what-he-said contributor...



zool - thank you, sir.



:P

oh --- and be careful, these doooods IZ mah frenz ... zone 3 kru.. mad tough in da chatrewms shawtay...

[the_idle_threat]

I leave you people alone for 10 stinkin' hours and THIS is what I come home to???? Meds and smooth nutsacks? And even worse, mixed metaphors???

You say that like you've never come home to meds and smooth nutsacks before ...

[Harlan Huckleby]

I leave you people alone for 10 stinkin' hours and THIS is what I come home to???? Meds and smooth nutsacks? And even worse, mixed metaphors???

You say that like you've never come home to meds and smooth nutsacks before ...

you certainly are the romantic type, Idle.

[the_idle_threat]

I leave you people alone for 10 stinkin' hours and THIS is what I come home to???? Meds and smooth nutsacks? And even worse, mixed metaphors???

You say that like you've never come home to meds and smooth nutsacks before ...

you certainly are the romantic type, Idle.

[bobblehead]

Re: Have many reached the wrong conclusion in Favre/Rodgers?

And the fact that the play calling seemed to forget who Ryan Grant was....and that we had a running game.

Exactly.

Laying the bulk of the blame on Favre for the loss to the Giants is lunacy. Sure, he deserves plenty of blame for that final throw...it was a turd. But numerous other turds were laid that day well before Favre's final throw...and all contributed to the loss. There were poor coaching decisions, dropped passes, poor blocking...you name it.

Let's be honest...the Packers as a team were not as experienced or mentally tough as the Giants, and it showed.

That is why I can't understand the notion that getting rid of Favre is in the best interest of the team. The team gained a ton of experience in that run last year...and is ready to reload in 2008. So you decide to throw that all away and put an untested QB in to lead them...so we are back to square one?

It makes no sense to me. None.

In march getting rid of favre wasn't in the best interest of the team for THIS season...agreed. At this point the long term effects of bringing favre back would be pretty harsh. I'm not even sure at this point the working relationship would be solid enough to give us the best chance to win. It might be, if everyone can put aside their feelings, but it doesn't sound like they can at this point.

[woodbuck27]

Protect the legacy that both the Packers and Brett have built together and bring Brett back based on his reputation, his past performance, including last year's accomplishment, and let him play. A-Rod can wait to build his own legacy. If Brett is reinstated, sit him down, tell him you want him back and you want to win and that you are sorry this situation has deteriorated, but if you are willing to come back and be our guy, let's just put this all in the past and go out and win football games this year.

I'm hoping that's not just a dream. Brett is a talker, says lots of stuff; can't take it all to heart. The Packers should love him despite the annoyance/situation he has helped to cause. He's not just the best QB you have, he's your legacy QB that means a lot to fans everywhere. Even if you do it for capitalist/legacy/brand reasons, it's still smarter than drawing a false line in the sand and making the guy feel unwanted. Sure he's indecisive, but so are many when they are trying to decide to play still. I don't think he's trying to run the team, just make up his freakin' mind. Still can win, this still can happen, I hope the management see's the big, big picture and is too focused in on 2008 or the next few years. It doesn't need to go down this way! It can be mended.

PLease. Sit him down and tell them you are sorry while making him the starter? You basically just condoned Brett's divish behavior and convey to the rest of the team that Brett is is above them. You do that and he will pull hte same shit next year. Get you're head out of Favre's ass and back to reality.

As well as Brett has been known to rip them, I don't have my head anywhere near there.

It's easy to say, show your toughness TT, be the man, make him sit, blah, blah, blah...guess what? People want to have a great GM, but people don't often wax poetic about what a GM means to a team, unless you are really into GM's vs. players. They are sentimental about players, they wear their jerseys, the follow their careers as the relationship/legacy builds between fans and player. This ain't some washed up guy who can't let it go. If he were Kenny Stabler embarrassing himself with the Saints, I'd be the first one to say I hope he goes, but I don't.

Wanting him back is for a lot of reasons. You look at punishing him for being indecisive and "diva-ish". I think his indecision was inconvenient and likely annoying, and makes it hard to plan, but so what? Hasn't Brett built up enough capital over the years to screw up something and be forgiven? Either you play him because you think he gives you the best chance to win or you trade/release him because you don't. The organization will do what it's inclined to do, but I hope it's neither trade or release. Geez, just be the bigger person, hold out an olive branch and say, this is crazy. Let's just step back from the brink and think about what we are doing. Just because they drew a line in the sand doesn't mean that they can't change their collective minds. I'm sure they are mulling over how this is going to play out for everyone's legacy. It doesn't matter if you are right or wrong if to many, many people you are known/perceived as the ones who didn't let Brett come back and play, and couldn't patch things up with him.

If Favre was a washed up guy and the fans knew it, but Brett didn't, well that would be something else. This is a situation that we are in by virtue of having a franchise, all-time HOF'er and I guess that means that we have to live with some of this at the end of his career. Is it fair? Maybe not, but I'll take Brett as a double standard over Rodgers. He's earned more in my bank than Rodgers (and I like Rodgers and think he could be something). Part of it is the history, sure. Part of it is wanting him to play again, but from a purely football standpoint of wins/losses/success, I say bury the hatchet, take a new tact...you don't have to kiss his ass, and you can acknowledge what you haven't liked in all this, but you gotta come up with, we signed you, you can still play, the fans (most) love you as an all-time great and we will not let it go down this way. If Brett's worst crime is indecision and lack of good communication, then forgive him and get him back out there to start. What he's done is not beyond repair, nor should a false line in the sand from management prevent that. See the light on this one, not just to placate Brett or the fans, but as the smartest wins/losses
decision you can make. I'd rather err on the side of bringing Brett back and having him lose it and still have Rodgers to take over, rather than making Rodgers the only option now that Brett wants to return.

Very solid and logical thinking and post. Congratulations Carolina_Packer.

[woodbuck27]

Re: Have many reached the wrong conclusion in Favre/Rodgers?

The predominant opinion seems to be that the Packers chance of winning THIS YEAR is better with Favre than Rodgers. Could it be that Thompson and McCarthy are of the opinion that their chances of ultimate success are no less with Rodgers than with Favre? Do they perhaps think that at the end of a long, long season the physical strain on a 39-year-old Favre,and the chance of playing in bone chilling weather at Lambeau Field makes Rodgers a better option than Favre for success in the playoffs?

Ahhh Patler? Come now. Do you really expect a Rookie QB will get this year to where Favre could.? I don't.

Favre looks amazingly ready to me after seeing him and his outstanding spirit, movement arm and conditioning on the local late night sports last night. He's in absoloutly great looking condition by the reports and I verify that based on my brief witness. Brett Favre looks very ready and strong. Rested too. He will win again somewhere. I want it to be leading OUR team for another season.

Favre wants to get it on with us man. Not any other NFL team b ut he has been handcuffed.

Try hard to reach inside of YOU for 'that fact' Patler. Yet realistically all we're aware of today is 'the man' is Aaron Rodgers. That will likely not change and many here wish it would. I certainly do.

Favre is ready Patler.

Are you fucking retarded? He looks very ready and strong? Looks rested? His arm LOOKS good?

What are you? Have you ever played a sport before? Do you wear pink ballerina outfits while you post on PR?

Rodgers is NOT a rookie. A Rookie means you are months removed from college keg parties and orgies with STD-ridden women...

Not where Rodgers is... I have no idea how you can extrapolate Favre's ability to play an ENTIRE season based on that interview. Shit, what's his record in the cold playoffs?

Of course he's fucking rested.

HE'S NOT DOING ANYTHING.

jesus, i thought you were *ok* despite scott always bashing on you but man... you're just like 7 fries short of a happy meal.




now this is where you tell me that im sick and you feel sorry for me and that i need jesus and all of that since you don't have anything to really say to me.

Well that is certainly 'a positive NOT post' mission. Why all the anger man? No I don't feel sorry or anything for you but concern as to 'the anger'.

Find Jesus? YOU!??

Before that... you need to adjust your attitude and need for useless and baseless attacks on any man that has a right of observation and reporting such to this forum. As something positive or a mere opinion and not meant to incite anyone's rages.

Try to get a better grip and attitude. It's nicer for you mission.

Before long you'll give yourself ''puffed lips syndrome'' like cpk1994 suffered too much, just trying to grow up. Do you really enjoy or get off acting ignorant like cpk1994? Slamming and trying to insult anyone with a view opposed to his, gains no respect. There's a better way man.

[mission]

im only replying to register my laughter at the fact you replied to me twice...

otherwise, all i have to say is

TL;DR

[gex]

mission you need to grow up man, the only thing mature about you are your beats ...... and by mature I mean old... like yesterday's shit.

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burn.

[Zool]

heyoooo

pay the man.