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  • #61
    Originally posted by Rastak
    That's why preseason can sometimes be hard to judge.
    Preseason is impossible to judge because defenses simply aren't running full schemes in game situations.

    Just because Rodgers tears up preseason defenses is not a sign that he could handle more complex blitz packages and coverages that he will see in the regular season. Those are the growing pains that Rodgers will realize...and the only way to learn is the hard way by starting and playing in regular season NFL games.
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    • #62
      Originally posted by 3irty1
      Unless of course Favre plays like complete crap. But I don't see you would go with Rodgers over Favre even if they performed about the same in preseason.
      I would say that if they perform "about the same" in preseason and camp, you would have to go with Rodgers over Favre. At this point in their respective careers, Rodgers is getting better and Favre is getting un-better. If they're about equal, go with the guy who could be your starter for another decade.
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      • #63
        these message boards are gonna suck even more than they do now when we suck dick this season cuz of a- distractions, b- rodgers blows and brohm is not ready

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Rastak
          Originally posted by Gunakor
          Originally posted by BallHawk
          Boiga hit the nail on the head. There is no way Rodgers can truly, fairly, at least in the eyes of some fans, win this job. No matter what happens, there will be cries of favoritism and bias.

          This will be settled once and for all in the preseason games. People can watch for themselves as the games are on TV. You can see if Rodgers outplays Favre, just like you can see if Favre outplays Rodgers. The bias only comes in if you give Favre a free pass for mistakes that you wouldn't give Rodgers a pass for. If you are completely objective and grade them equally, then there is no bias.

          Favre: "Meh, he threw an INT, no big deal he's done it before."

          Rodgers: "OMG he threw an INT he SUX, trade him NOW."

          If you think like that, you are right in that Rodgers has no shot at winning a competition. And I can see many people with that mindset. Shame.

          Unless they alternate playing with the first team and against 1st team defenses it's apples and oranges comparing the two. That's why preseason can sometimes be hard to judge.
          Let them alternate in preseason then. Preseason is supposed to be where you judge your players current ability against one another to form your depth chart. So let them alternate series in the preseason and then see who's performing better. I just don't want to see them alternating series anymore come September. Someone has to win it before then. And I would agree that if the competition is too close to call, then the nod should go to Favre. I would hope that one of them goes out and wins it on the field rather than leaving it close so MM has to make a tough decision sitting at a desk in his office.
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          • #65
            Originally posted by Pacopete4
            these message boards are gonna suck even more than they do now when we suck dick this season cuz of a- distractions, b- rodgers blows and brohm is not ready
            Can't argue with the logic and reasoning behind that post.
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            • #66
              it just seems like nothing is working out.. no matter how you turn it, if favre starts for us there is still bad blood there and if he is traded is a big black mark on Brett and this teams storied franchise... and that to me sucks, its a heart breaker

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              • #67
                Originally posted by The Leaper
                Preseason is impossible to judge because defenses simply aren't running full schemes in game situations.

                Just because Rodgers tears up preseason defenses is not a sign that he could handle more complex blitz packages and coverages that he will see in the regular season. Those are the growing pains that Rodgers will realize...and the only way to learn is the hard way by starting and playing in regular season NFL games.

                Then what the hell do they even play the preseason for if not to evaluate the players and form a depth chart? I mean, how would YOU accurately judge a competition between the two of them? Or would you just simply state that there is no competition and just give the job to Favre?

                Seriously Leaper, this needs to be settled before the regular season begins. Somehow, if Favre is to be a Packer in 2008, McCarthy has to find a way for the two of them to compete and then judge that competition to crown a winner. We can't have two starting QB's come September. It's not fair to Rodgers to just give the job to Favre period, no questions asked. Rodgers at the very least has earned the right to compete for the job. If preseason isn't the place for that competition, then what is?
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                • #68
                  I think we all understand your sentiment, pacopete.

                  My ideal situation has always been that Favre comes back to the Packers but willing chooses to adopt a role in the supporting caste. He's a gold mine of experience and if he truely accepts the job as A-Rod's mentor this season, we'd become a much better team even if Brett is sitting on the bench.

                  That way, we can all just get along, right?

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Lurker64
                    Originally posted by 3irty1
                    Unless of course Favre plays like complete crap. But I don't see you would go with Rodgers over Favre even if they performed about the same in preseason.
                    I would say that if they perform "about the same" in preseason and camp, you would have to go with Rodgers over Favre. At this point in their respective careers, Rodgers is getting better and Favre is getting un-better. If they're about equal, go with the guy who could be your starter for another decade.
                    That's true assuming you can tell everything in the world from preseason which isn't the case. Them having the same skill level and them being about the same in preseason are two different things. I don't think preseason is a stong enough indicator to go with Rodgers over Favre should they both be the same. Favre is proven.
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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Pacopete4
                      these message boards are gonna suck even more than they do now when we suck dick this season cuz of a- distractions, b- rodgers blows and brohm is not ready
                      Why do you even bother coming here if all you are going to do is spew garbage. I hope Roddgers throws for over 3500 yeards so he can persaonally stick your foot down your goddamn throat.

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                      • #71
                        KFFL:

                        Favre has no interest in Jets.


                        LOCAL NEWS IN GB:

                        Favre has no interest in Tampa


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                        • #72
                          So, does this mean Favre is coming back to force the Packers to release him or is he genuinely interested in competing for the starting job?
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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Chevelle2
                            KFFL:

                            Favre has no interest in Jets.


                            LOCAL NEWS IN GB:

                            Favre has no interest in Tampa


                            He wants in Green Bay or in Minnesota...

                            This is interesting...

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                              So, does this mean Favre is coming back to force the Packers to release him or is he genuinely interested in competing for the starting job?
                              Either Or...

                              I think he would do either... I think hes going to decline ALL TRADES though...

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                              • #75
                                Chevelle, is that really the case? Because after those two, the only teams that'd pay for him are the vikings and bears.

                                If Favre really did turn down both Tampa and the Jets, he doesn't have anywhere else to go but Green Bay.

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