Holy Crap! Favre'll show up for camp!

[MJZiggy]

Maybe it means an environment that is consistently unlike anything they see on the field on Sunday?

[Joemailman]

The Packers are making plans to make big money by people showing up to practice. It won't happen.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I'm in a minority of about 4 people nationwide, but I don't think Favre coming to camp will be that disruptive. If McCarthy has regular contact with Favre, things can only get better, much better. IT will work out.

Jesus, if Bosnia got solved, Favre coming to training camp can be negotiated between adults. Well, between McCarthy and Favre.

[bobblehead]

I know, right?

M3 practices indoors enough as it is. His reasoning... "To provide a constant environment." What that means, I have no clue.

that means if the game is sunny, no wind, moderate temperature, perfect field conditions we will be totally ready.....ok, my only knock on MM as a coach.

[woodbuck27]

That's how Favre see's it too M.

he is 'in control'.

He waited as long as he could to slap that one on TT. It is a game of Cat n' Mouse that begins with TT and will end with Favre winning.

I assure y'all of that. TT can't play Favre's game. It's called 'the Right Way'.

Favre is not going to become the starting QB in Green Bay by playing public relations games.

Right but he is the starting QB for OUR team last I saw. He will START IF HE SO DESIRES.

FAVRE STUMBLED. HE'S HUMAN BUT HE WINS THE LONG SUIT OR THE END GAME.

EASY TO WIN VS TED THOMPSON THOUGH HH.

Dunno, Buck last I saw, he was retired...He won't start until he does the paperwork no matter how much he desires it. And all we've heard so far are contradictions.

mj It's clear that Favre is back.

He sat and waited and he told us all. He told us a week or so ago he'd call TT 's bluff and lets see if TT airs his drawers. Through this whole thing Favre has been very straight up. The people around him couldn't keep control of their emotions. A lot of cajun Blood?

The Packer haters want Favre to disappear. He's still 'the man' mj. The Madden game anyone!! Favre still the face of the NFL. Arn't we so proud of Brett Favre.

I know the support for Favre is overwhelming in here. Real Favre fans all the way.

TT's totally out of character to move Favre to a contender and Favre won't accept a trade to a team he doesn't approve of. He's a lot like YOU or I that way mj. He choose's his employer and well why move out of the house you built when the pay and surroundings are so comfortable. Not Rocket Science mj. Reality Therapy Lady.

Favre is a Packer first. He signed a contract years ago to retire as an active player fr. the Packers. Are you forgetting that mj? You've got a superior memory in my observation mj. Right that contract runs through 2010 at least.

Favre felt we were close last season but they loaded him down too much. Favre's call. He knows his body, He knows himself.

It's obvious now to anyone following this story that Favre and TT arn't on the same page. That's always been obvious to me. Painfully so.

If he came back too soon then that allows TT more time to screw up. Favre is looking after TT who's about as swift as a glacier. Coming in from the dark on the weekend Farve keeps the press really focused on he and TT.

Will TT panic and error now. I think not. It's a little or a lot like this:

Favre.... " Want to trade me TT ?''

TT .... " well ahhh,errr,uhhh,mmmm, Brett I think so .. it might be best ahhh well ... sorry Brett..YES "

Favre..."Dangerous move Ted, any way YOU look at it. Want to go over it?"

TT...." Ahhh well errr, mmm choke choke..I'm busy now Brett.maybe later "


Hahahahahaha poor Ted.

[woodbuck27]

I'm in a minority of about 4 people nationwide, but I don't think Favre coming to camp will be that disruptive. If McCarthy has regular contact with Favre, things can only get better, much better. IT will work out.

Jesus, if Bosnia got solved, Favre coming to training camp can be negotiated between adults. Well, between McCarthy and Favre.

Poor Ted . He was so close.

Just a riot for me. X 4

[Pacopete4]

In fact, if Rodgers can't win 3 playoff games within the next 5 years, let alone 10, he doesn't belong on this team.

To be honest I love debating this Favre stuff and enjoy rapping back and forth with a strong majority of the posters in here. Gunakor...Mailman....Vince...most in here....they are realistic enough where we can agree to disagree in a friendly matter.

But this continuous trashing of Favre and dwelling on his playoff record alone while ignoring his accomplishments IMO discredit you enough to make it hard to take your over the top views serious enough to debate.

I think his regular season achievements are fantastic. I just think that he doesn't have what it takes to get us to the SB. His past teams, were pretty good.

1998: 13-3
2001: 12-4
2002: 12-4
2003: 10-6
2004: 10-6
2007: 13-3

Average wins per year: 11.53

Pretty good teams don't win Super Bowls... if you remember right, when the Packers won the Super Bowl it was because they had the #1 defense in the league and an offense that could pound the ball down peoples throats along with a great play action passing game... we held the ball for most of the game.... in a lot of the years you just posted, we didnt have close to that and if wasn't for Favre and his talent throwing the football our team might have been pathetic... time to pull your heads out of your asses and realize what a true talent he really is...

[woodbuck27]

People are dreaming if they think Favre will be starting for the Packers.

He won't, and he shouldn't. The team is better off with Rodgers at QB. Favre can play his chess game by saying he will report even though he hasn't even filed for reinstatement. He may actually even report. However, I'm fairly sure the decision has been made that he won't start.

Which is the best case scenario? We snag a first round pick from the Jets or whoever? Brett quietly fades back into retirement? Or he reports, is paid his $12 million, and rides the bench/serves as insurance against a Rodgers injury?

I'd be very happy with any of those. I honestly think Brett is suggestive enough that if handled correctly, he could be content as a backup--being "one of the guys" and an enthusiastic back-slapping member of a winning team. If that happens, though, the Packers should hire armed guards to keep trouble-making media assholes far away from him with their insidious questions.

X 100 You missed your calling as a comedian texaspackerbacker

Aaron Rodgers over Favre to start. Gonna do a Tonya Harding on Favre Big Guy? Aaron Rodgers over Favre?? In your worst nightmares.

[woodbuck27]

There are two ways of looking at it. And its not at all certain which way is correct. But TT & MM have the right to make the choice.

Exactly. and I will support them if they make the right choice!

Will you support them if they make the right choice even if it isn't the one you agree with right now?

Will you support them even if they make the wrong choice because you support the Green Bay Packers?

As fans we have the right to criticize when GM's make the wrong decision. You can be a Packer fan and still ridicule...or glorify...a GM's decision

I can criticize the decisions our GM makes while remaining supportive of our GM himself. And it's not fair to judge TT's entire tenure as our GM on one single decision. He's made a helluva lot of good decisions that led to 13-3 last year. That can't be overlooked.

In any case, he won't get it wrong. If Favre comes back to Green Bay and starts then TT wins. If Rodgers starts and begins a new era of consistent winning then TT wins. If Favre leaves and Rodgers stinks and Brohm comes in as the savior in the coming seasons then TT wins. The only way TT loses is if Green Bay returns to the Siberia of the NFL that it was in the 70's and 80's. As stacked as he's made this team for Rodgers/Favre/Brohm/whoever, I don't see that as even a remote possibility.

OK this is too simple:

Factor this into your thinking. Your a Vegas odds maker and your reputation dictates all inegrity and common sense.

Packers odds of wining a NFC Championship for the 2008 season.

a) Better or worse With Favre at Starting QB over Aaron Rodgers?

Just to be sure or make it really clear.

b) Better or worse with Aaron Rodgers at Starting QB over Brett Favre?

What did YOU discover? I see what any media outlet and newspaper sports reporter and NFL expert and well, any sensable Packer or NFL fan will see. TT will see it too. TT won't blow this one. Will he?

hint: FAVRE !!!!

[th87]

There are two ways of looking at it. And its not at all certain which way is correct. But TT & MM have the right to make the choice.

Exactly. and I will support them if they make the right choice!

Will you support them if they make the right choice even if it isn't the one you agree with right now?

Will you support them even if they make the wrong choice because you support the Green Bay Packers?

As fans we have the right to criticize when GM's make the wrong decision. You can be a Packer fan and still ridicule...or glorify...a GM's decision

I can criticize the decisions our GM makes while remaining supportive of our GM himself. And it's not fair to judge TT's entire tenure as our GM on one single decision. He's made a helluva lot of good decisions that led to 13-3 last year. That can't be overlooked.

In any case, he won't get it wrong. If Favre comes back to Green Bay and starts then TT wins. If Rodgers starts and begins a new era of consistent winning then TT wins. If Favre leaves and Rodgers stinks and Brohm comes in as the savior in the coming seasons then TT wins. The only way TT loses is if Green Bay returns to the Siberia of the NFL that it was in the 70's and 80's. As stacked as he's made this team for Rodgers/Favre/Brohm/whoever, I don't see that as even a remote possibility.

OK this is too simple:

Factor this into your thinking. Your a Vegas odds maker and your reputation dictates all inegrity and common sense.

Packers odds of wining a NFC Championship for the 2008 season.

a) Better or worse With Favre at Starting QB over Aaron Rodgers?

Just to be sure or make it really clear.

b) Better or worse with Aaron Rodgers at Starting QB over Brett Favre?

What did YOU discover? I see what any media outlet and newspaper sports reporter and NFL expert and well, any sensable Packer or NFL fan will see. TT will see it too. TT won't blow this one. Will he?

hint: FAVRE !!!!

You know, I think I'll trust the GENERAL MANAGER of the team, whose JOB depends on making the right decision, rather than some fans who think they're GMs. That's just me.

[SkinBasket]

Personally, I don't think Rodgers is our guy, there are too many things he does that he should not be doing after three years in the NFL.

The argument about who's better for the team right now aside, what is it Rodgers is "doing" that he shouldn't?

Don't feed Merlin, Skin. He has hated A-Rod from day 1 and refuses to give any credit to him as it feeds into his anti-TT agenda. Don't feed the tool.

Which is why I asked the question. Seems Merlin, as usual, doesn't have answers to back up the fart bubbles floating around inside his head.

[SkinBasket]

OK this is too simple:

Factor this into your thinking. Your a Vegas odds maker and your reputation dictates all inegrity and common sense.

Packers odds of wining a NFC Championship for the 2008 season.

a) Better or worse With Favre at Starting QB over Aaron Rodgers?

Just to be sure or make it really clear.

b) Better or worse with Aaron Rodgers at Starting QB over Brett Favre?

What did YOU discover? I see what any media outlet and newspaper sports reporter and NFL expert and well, any sensable Packer or NFL fan will see. TT will see it too. TT won't blow this one. Will he?

hint: FAVRE !!!!

You know, I think I'll trust the GENERAL MANAGER of the team, whose JOB depends on making the right decision, rather than some fans who think they're GMs. That's just me.

Don't be stupid. Woody was right about how Ted put together a 4 win team last year. How he had doomed us by not finding a RB. How he hadn't put any weapons around Favre. How he didn't sign any FAs who would help us get to the play-offs. Look how that turned out. Woody has a very solid history of being absolutely correct in his assessment of Ted Thompson and what this team does and doesn't need that it's pure insanity to challenge him.

[cpk1994]

People are dreaming if they think Favre will be starting for the Packers.

He won't, and he shouldn't. The team is better off with Rodgers at QB. Favre can play his chess game by saying he will report even though he hasn't even filed for reinstatement. He may actually even report. However, I'm fairly sure the decision has been made that he won't start.

Which is the best case scenario? We snag a first round pick from the Jets or whoever? Brett quietly fades back into retirement? Or he reports, is paid his $12 million, and rides the bench/serves as insurance against a Rodgers injury?

I'd be very happy with any of those. I honestly think Brett is suggestive enough that if handled correctly, he could be content as a backup--being "one of the guys" and an enthusiastic back-slapping member of a winning team. If that happens, though, the Packers should hire armed guards to keep trouble-making media assholes far away from him with their insidious questions.

Wouldn't matter. Favre would just call them on the phone.

[PlantPage55]

Personally, I want Brett to stay home, but how hilariously epic would this image be:

First day of training camp, cameras locked on his truck as it rolls into the parking lot.

Brett parks, exits the truck, ignores the media for a bit as he goes to the back of the truck and pulls out an individual wooden locker and carries it into the Packer facilities.

[Merlin]

Personally, I don't think Rodgers is our guy, there are too many things he does that he should not be doing after three years in the NFL.

The argument about who's better for the team right now aside, what is it Rodgers is "doing" that he shouldn't?

Don't feed Merlin, Skin. He has hated A-Rod from day 1 and refuses to give any credit to him as it feeds into his anti-TT agenda. Don't feed the tool.

Which is why I asked the question. Seems Merlin, as usual, doesn't have answers to back up the fart bubbles floating around inside his head.

Your responses are as expected and fit your modus operandi when the facts do not support your opinion. You resort to taking one line out of context within an entire post and then personally attack the poster because of your own jealousy, hatred, inadequacies, or just plain stupidity. Neither of you either alone or collectively have ever had an original thought, idea, or opinion, and at times it is difficult to determine who's head is shoved up who's ass. I won't sink to your level and give in to the kindergarten games you choose to embark on. I prefer to have respectful conversations with people and agree to disagree at times. I am surely not going to converse with anyone who never let's reality interfere with their logic, you can't fix stupid.