McCarthy: Favre's days as our starting QB are over

[Tarlam!]

It would almost be worth it to see the Packers fail miserably and have A-Rod put up at 45.0 rating while Favre guides a team to the playoffs just to see you leave this place in shame.

Partial, IMO it would never be worth it to see a Packer player or Packer team fail for any reason.

I also think you need to be more careful in calling for posters to leave this place, because you might find yourself at the wrong end of this practice sooner than you expect if your example becomes the norm around here.

Nick/JH has always had this stance towards Favre, but he doesn't try and consciously provoke the forum as Tank does. I see no need to call for anyone else's head around here. Tank deserved what he got.

P, I like you, but I have met you personally and we've had some one on one hang time. You don't always come across in your posts as you are in real life. People that have never met you can only go by your forum persona.

Just some friendly observations from your Aussie buddy.

[Tarlam!]

Partial,you have to remember not only is JH an idiot he is a bandwagon packer fan that jumped on in the last 4 or 5 years.

I guess that makes me a band-wagoner, too, because I am a relative "babe" of a Pack-Fan.

Please advise me, oh true Packer Fan, what baptism we unworthy band-wagoners must absolve before we, too, are allowed to have and share opinions.

[Deputy Nutz]

I hope McCarthy realizes the pressure that he is putting on Rodgers when he keeps announcing him the as the "Starting Quarterback no matter what happens".

The Packers plan on trading Favre, bottom line. I hope it is to the Jets, because I think a Favre Jets Jersey would be pretty cool looking.

This whole situation sucks, On one side you have Favre, who technically never lost his job as the starting QB. Rodgers certainly never beat him out of the position.

On the other hand, Favre quit. He pretended to hang up his helmet and cleats. The Packers had to turn over the football team to Rodgers.

Has anyone cared to ask Rodgers how he feels about being given the starting job without having to compete for it? Here is where the pressure comes in, if his play doesn't back it up, not only is he fucked, but McCarthy and Thompson will be stoned by the same people that have switched to their side in the Packers verse Brett Favre. Mark my words, this franchise as we know it now rests completely on Aaron Rodgers' shoulders.

Lastly, if Favre wants to play football the Packers need to do the honorable thing and let him play. If Favre just wants to play football he should have no problems going to the Jets. I don't like it one bit that the Packers are trying to sit on Favre. He deserves better than that even after that god awful interview with Greta.

The one tiny little point that you're missing in all of this is that it's Favre's move in the chess match, not the team's. IF Favre wants to play is looking like a big if because his actions don't back up his words. The Packers aren't trying to do anything with him (except give the Jets permission to talk to him). There's no sitting on him going on.

They are, you can't tell someone that you won't let them in the door to play for the Packers, but yet not release him or trade him. If he doesn't want to play for the Jets or Tampa, thats on him, not the Packers, I am just saying that he deserves to play football in the NFL.

[RashanGary]

I am just saying that he deserves to play football in the NFL.

Yep and you shouldn't even be saying it because it's well documented that TT contacted most of the league looking for a trade. It's a non issue.

[VegasPackFan]

Partial,you have to remember not only is JH an idiot he is a bandwagon packer fan that jumped on in the last 4 or 5 years.

I guess that makes me a band-wagoner, too, because I am a relative "babe" of a Pack-Fan.

Please advise me, oh true Packer Fan, what baptism we unworthy band-wagoners must absolve before we, too, are allowed to have and share opinions.

20+ years of totally sucky and frustrating football.

[VegasPackFan]

Just kidding, by the way ^^^^^

[Harlan Huckleby]

On one side you have Favre, who technically never lost his job as the starting QB. Rodgers certainly never beat him out of the position.

Holy moses. Who can retire from a job, have the employer retool the organization around the replacement, then demand their old job back?

Nutz, I didn't realize you were such a Favre pole smoker. You have inhaled too deeply.

If Favre just wants to play football he should have no problems going to the Jets. I don't like it one bit that the Packers are trying to sit on Favre.

You are very ill informed. Favre has already sneered at playing for the Jets.
Favre is raising a public stink in hopes of pressuring TT into releasing him.

But thank you for playing.

[RashanGary]

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[RashanGary]

HH, I don't even think he read the things Favre said today


He's sitting here arguing the "Free Favre" point when Brett FAvre said himself that he's not accepting the trades on the table.

[Deputy Nutz]

On one side you have Favre, who technically never lost his job as the starting QB. Rodgers certainly never beat him out of the position.

Holy moses. Who can retire from a job, have the employer retool the organization around the replacement, then demand their old job back?

Nutz, I didn't realize you were such a Favre pole smoker. You have inhaled too deeply.

If Favre just wants to play football he should have no problems going to the Jets. I don't like it one bit that the Packers are trying to sit on Favre.

You are very ill informed. Favre has already sneered at playing for the Jets.
Favre is raising a public stink in hopes of pressuring TT into releasing him.

But thank you for playing.

Well then I guess it is on Favre then. Like I said, if it is only about playing football than Favre should have no problems playing for the Jets. I guess he has a problem with it.

What didn't I say that you don't understand?

In detail please explain to me how the Packers retooled their franchise due to the retirement of Brett Favre? Drafting a QB they should have drafted regardless? Come on explain to me the secret offense McCarthy has built around Aaron Rodgers. Please I am dying to know!!!

[Deputy Nutz]

HH, I don't even think he read the things Favre said today


He's sitting here arguing the "Free Favre" point when Brett FAvre said himself that he's not accepting the trades on the table.

Actually, if either of you two could read a post correctly you wouldn't be fucking idiots, but hey, whatever floats your boat.

[Harlan Huckleby]

He's sitting here arguing the "Free Favre" point when Brett FAvre said himself that he's not accepting the trades on the table.

I think its a question of personal loyalty. People who are Favre sentimentalists hear only what they want to hear.

Normally sane people like Bretsky are waging a "Let Favre Play" campaign. Never mind that what Favre is actually angling for is to get out of his contract. IF he just wanted to play, it could have happened weeks ago.

[RashanGary]

How about promising his team taht this year would be about them and not about one player. How patting his defense on the back and telling them this will be their year to stand out. HOw abotu telling his ST's that this is the year they get to step up and prove that they can win as a "TEAM". How abotu telling the WR's and RB's that it's not going to be Brett making them what they are, but this year it's going to be about them.

It's all a big step forward for this TEAM. This TEAM that has worked their asses off and kicked ass last year. This TEAM that has been undersold and underappreciated because one player constantly hogged the spotlight with diva like offseason dramas and idiotic game losing plays in big games that everyone always chaulks up to "brett's shitty surroudning cast".


They made a promise to the TEAM that they were going to move forward. This isn't about Aaron Rodgers. This is about the OL that have been tossed under the bus. This is about the WR's that have been told they were nothing without Favre and told that they were not enough by FAvre. This is about the RB's who are told they can't do it without FAvre. This is about a guy who doesn't give a shit about the team finally leaving. This is a great day that is made an awful day by the public who doesn't realize what goes on behind closed doors. This is about "moving forward" as a team and as much as the Favre knob bobbers want to believe FAvre is some golden god, I think that team is more than ready to move on. He's not a good teammate.

This is about the team. This is about the Packers.

[Harlan Huckleby]

In detail please explain to me how the Packers retooled their franchise due to the retirement of Brett Favre? Drafting a QB they should have drafted regardless? Come on explain to me the secret offense McCarthy has built around Aaron Rodgers. Please I am dying to know!!!

I think this has more to do with the psychology of the team than X and O's. McGinn layed this out pretty well:

http://packerrats.com/ratchat/viewtopic.php?t=13397

I expect the Packers have several reasons for preferring Rodgers. Among them, the fact that Favre has been acting very unstabley.

I don't know if MM & TT made the best decision, it might have been wiser to take FAvre back. But I certainly respect that they thought about it carefully, and have their reasons for sticking their necks out.

[Deputy Nutz]

How about promising his team taht this year would be about them and not about one player. How patting his defense on the back and telling them this will be their year to stand out. HOw abotu telling his ST's that this is the year they get to step up and prove that they can win as a "TEAM". How abotu telling the WR's and RB's that it's not going to be Brett making them what they are, but this year it's going to be about them.

It's all a big step forward for this TEAM. This TEAM that has worked their asses off and kicked ass last year. This TEAM that has been undersold and underappreciated because one player constantly hogged the spotlight with diva like offseason dramas and idiotic game losing plays in big games that everyone always chaulks up to "brett's shitty surroudning cast".


They made a promise to the TEAM that they were going to move forward. This isn't about Aaron Rodgers. This is about the OL that have been tossed under the bus. This is about the WR's that have been told they were nothing without Favre and told that they were not enough by FAvre. This is about the RB's who are told they can't do it without FAvre. This is about a guy who doesn't give a shit about the team finally leaving. This is a great day that is made an awful day by the public who doesn't realize what goes on behind closed doors.

You are so full of shit it squirts out of your nose. You rant about TEAM!!! How many football teams have you played on? How many times have you layed out a would be tackler that allows the running back to score, yet you get no recognition for it? Your name doesn't show up in the paper, you are not the one quoted, but oh that little shit running back that can't take one hit without fumbling is king for the day. He gets fucked at the party that night, mean while you are in the trainers room packed in ice.

Above is reality. Rodgers will now become the attention whore in Green Bay whether he likes it or not. Thats football you dumb ass. That is how it has alway been, and always will be.

The media and the attention will always surround the best players, especially in football, Favre has been the best player in Green Bay since 1996, thats just the way it is.