McCarthy: Favre's days as our starting QB are over

[RashanGary]

McCarthy has said this is about the team and this is what's best for the Packers. Take that however you want. Brett's no longer a team guy. He's a me guy. You don't want to see it, so you won't. McCarthy knows more about what is best for this team than you do.

[Deputy Nutz]

McCarthy has said this is about the team and this is what's best for the Packers. Take that however you want. Brett's no longer a team guy. He's a me guy. You don't want to see it, so you won't.

I could say the same to you, but you won't see it that way. McCarthy, "really it is about me, and my ability to win regardless of QBs, I am that good, fuck Favre, I don't need him."

I could say that, do I believe it no. I know reality, Favre fucked up and retired. The door opened for McCarthy and Thompson to make their mark in the first year of A.F. Now Favre has mucked that up with trying to rise from retirement and rain on their parade. Rodgers is now fucked, poor guy.

[RashanGary]

Oh well, now we get some drama to watch during TC as well. Hopefully they come out and make it worth it this year. It's been a hell of a ride.

If they win this year and Brett's gone I'll bet it won't be about everyone needing Brett to win and them being stumblebums. I'll bet a lot of people on the PACKERS look forward to that day.

[MJZiggy]

Nutz, if that's the true logic, why did they take him back the first time he unretired?

[Harlan Huckleby]

Favre fucked up and retired. The door opened for McCarthy and Thompson to make their mark in the first year of A.F.

Nice theory, except you ignore the facts. Thompson and his tubby pal welcomed Favre back after he unretired the first time late March. Even in early June, when Favre was sending mixed signals, McCarthy asked him if he was 100% committed to football, and Favre said "no." This comes from Favre.

TT & MM bent over backwards to accomodate the Prima Donna. But then at some point, they made a choice.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Nutz, if that's the true logic, why did they take him back the first time he unretired?

I guess I could have just said this. But why say something in 10 words when it can be done in 500?

[RashanGary]

Nutz doesn't like to use what is happened and what is said to formulate his opinions. He forumlates opinioons and then selects information to support them. That's what all good loyalists do. The rest of you sicken me.

[MJZiggy]

Actually, Blue, that's not rhetorical. I'm trying to grasp the logic here.

[Deputy Nutz]

Favre fucked up and retired. The door opened for McCarthy and Thompson to make their mark in the first year of A.F.

Nice theory, except you ignore the facts. Thompson and his tubby pal welcomed Favre back after he unretired the first time late March. Even in early June, when Favre was sending mixed signals, McCarthy asked him if he was 100% committed to football, and Favre said "no." This comes from Favre.

TT & MM bent over backwards to accomodate the Prima Donna. But then at some point, they made a choice.

Absolutely right, I can't argue with that. But what has changed since March? What has changed since June? Did Rodgers all of a sudden sprout into an All-Pro QB? If he did I missed it. Simple what has changed? I guess OTAs and Mini-Camps work wonders. Favre should be banished for missing those.

I guess they gave Favre his chance, he backed out. Are they willing to gamble the franchise, or better yet their jobs? Risky business, risky.

[boiga]

I could say that, do I believe it no. I know reality, Favre fucked up and retired. The door opened for McCarthy and Thompson to make their mark in the first year of A.F. Now Favre has mucked that up with trying to rise from retirement and rain on their parade. Rodgers is now fucked, poor guy.

I don't see why people are disagreeing with this bit. McCarthy and Ted had to make their post Favre mark eventually because the guy is ancient. He wasn't going to be here forever.

However, if Rodgers can play, then this whole mess will be resolved quite handily. We just have to hope that he can.

[Deputy Nutz]

Nutz, if that's the true logic, why did they take him back the first time he unretired?

I guess I could have just said this. But why say something in 10 words when it can be done in 500?

Because you could have over 10,000 posts then.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Absolutely right, I can't argue with that. But what has changed since March? What has changed since June? Did Rodgers all of a sudden sprout into an All-Pro QB? If he did I missed it. Simple what has changed? I guess OTAs and Mini-Camps work wonders. Favre should be banished for missing those.

It's hard to say exactly what changed the minds of TT && MM.
Just like it's hard to say exactly what changed Favre's mind.

I think they liked what they saw from A-Rod is minicamps. And they decided to make a firm commitment. Its not a question of "banishing" Favre - he retired and the team went in a new direction.

[Deputy Nutz]

Nutz doesn't like to use what is happened and what is said to formulate his opinions. He forumlates opinioons and then selects information to support them. That's what all good loyalists do. The rest of you sicken me.

So much shit has spewed over from this and honestly I feel I have called a spade a spade in a lot of this. I have called Favre out about his decisions and failure to move on his chance to come back to Green Bay.

Simple what I fail to understand in all of this, is MM's and TT's undying loyalty to Aaron Rodgers. Rodgers hasn't proved shit. It is annoying and I can't wrap my head around "moving foward" with an inexperienced QB. Very rarely does a team move foward on the shoulders of an inexperience QB. Sure maybe in 2010, but in 2008? When all the pieces should be in place to go after a title? Too many Egos on both sides, to much pride and stubbornness. It makes it an all out pathetic situation.

[MJZiggy]

Nutz, if that's the true logic, why did they take him back the first time he unretired?

I guess I could have just said this. But why say something in 10 words when it can be done in 500?

Because you could have over 10,000 posts then.

Regardless of my post count (don't get snippy with me, bub) you didn't answer my question.

[Deputy Nutz]

Nutz, if that's the true logic, why did they take him back the first time he unretired?

I guess I could have just said this. But why say something in 10 words when it can be done in 500?

Because you could have over 10,000 posts then.

Regardless of my post count (don't get snippy with me, bub) you didn't answer my question.

I answered Harlan's question because he showed better detail.