Should the Packers even allow Favre to practice?

[Patler]

To me it's clear that all that "we value your legacy" was just pure BS and an attempted manipulation to get Favre to retire. They knew form the start they had no interest in him coming in, and they knew they were not going to let him compete.

IF they try to "get away with it for a week" as you noted, more fans will begin to criticize TT and I do think he wants to minimize this and the circus that would develop.

My guess is they give him away for a low draft pick; if Favre badly outplays Rodgers in the preseason that would be a nightmare for them after giving the job to AROD and letting him know he's the guy regardless. That first interview, I think with Jim Rome was telling......when AROD said.....we're moving on as an organization. He'd been told that LONG before this fiasco started and stated it like it was a matter of fact IMO.

I can't imagine they want Brett Favre as a backup; and if they release him before the last cut.......which would be completely BUSH LEAGUE....he'd be a better starter with one week of preparation than Tavarius Jackson is with the whole offseason.

Should be interesting

Ya, the "legacy" argument was a weak one, I wonder who thought that one up.

No chance of Favre outplaying Rodgers in preseason even if he is with the packers. He won't see more than a series in a game, and they can control what plays are run.

I think most fans are resigned to the fact that Favre will be gone, sooner rather than later. If the Packers sat him for a week, I doubt much would be made of it, so long as it was coupled with their attempt to find a situation that is "good for Brett" as they have been saying recently.

I agree, a $XX million backup is not in the cards for the season. They will trade him for a 7th before that will happen.

[Bretsky]

To me it's clear that all that "we value your legacy" was just pure BS and an attempted manipulation to get Favre to retire. They knew form the start they had no interest in him coming in, and they knew they were not going to let him compete.

IF they try to "get away with it for a week" as you noted, more fans will begin to criticize TT and I do think he wants to minimize this and the circus that would develop.

My guess is they give him away for a low draft pick; if Favre badly outplays Rodgers in the preseason that would be a nightmare for them after giving the job to AROD and letting him know he's the guy regardless. That first interview, I think with Jim Rome was telling......when AROD said.....we're moving on as an organization. He'd been told that LONG before this fiasco started and stated it like it was a matter of fact IMO.

I can't imagine they want Brett Favre as a backup; and if they release him before the last cut.......which would be completely BUSH LEAGUE....he'd be a better starter with one week of preparation than Tavarius Jackson is with the whole offseason.

Should be interesting

Ya, the "legacy" argument was a weak one, I wonder who thought that one up.

No chance of Favre outplaying Rodgers in preseason even if he is with the packers. He won't see more than a series in a game, and they can control what plays are run.

I think most fans are resigned to the fact that Favre will be gone, sooner rather than later. If the Packers sat him for a week, I doubt much would be made of it, so long as it was coupled with their attempt to find a situation that is "good for Brett" as they have been saying recently.

I agree, a $XX million backup is not in the cards for the season. They will trade him for a 7th before that will happen.

That legacy one was humorous...but I've said all along TT knows how to manipulate the media and is much more media smart than most give him credit for. Legacy Schmegacy. He could care less about that and was using it to make Favre think about staying away from Green Bay.

I never thought about the second point I bolded. But you are absolutely right.

The playcalling could certainly be swayed so AROD looks a heck of a lot better than Favre.

Heck, they could leave the starters in longer with AROD and then start Favre the next game with scabby OL against starters. I hadn't even thought of that.

[MJZiggy]

Heck, they could leave the starters in longer with AROD and then start Favre the next game with scabby OL against starters. I hadn't even thought of that.

They'd never get away with that. These are not Buffalo fans here, they know their stuff and most would pick up on that in practice in a heartbeat and howl to the moon about it.

[MadtownPacker]

I assume your mom and your minions can read so I dont need to answer their non-sense.

You know that I got your back when Tarlam and Nutz said you where a piece of shit but now I have to say I agree. Why involve someone's Mom? Are you really that low? Was I really that wrong about you??

I dont agree with half the shit Patler says but he doesnt get into throwing shots like that and posters respect that as his way. Some people like to sling mud, myself included but some dont. Maybe you need to tune you senses to recognize that.

If not dont cry like a little bitch when everyone piles on you.

[sheepshead]

I didnt mean his real mom, the woman that sticks up for him every time I challenge something he says(mjziggy), acts like his mom. I didnt want to belabor it because I emailed her privately and we have it settled. Wheres the humor?

[sheepshead]

Not letting him practice is not w/o precedent. Remember McNair when the Titans decided they were done with him?

That was VOLUNTARY offseason workouts that they held McNair out of...not training camp. So, the circumstances are a little different.

I would assume Favre could make a stink with the NFLPA if the Packers did not allow him to practice. The NFL wants to see Favre on the field in 2008...he's a moneymaker.

The problem in the McNair situation was that they barred him from even using the facilities. He was not allowed to train at or use any team equipment. That, they couldn't do.

hair splitting? mincing words? any of this ring true for you?

[Harlan Huckleby]

mad loves his mom. don't ever say anything bad about moms to that guy.

i think its a latino thing.

[sheepshead]

I love my mom too..


and this in the JSO speaks to my point:

On June 5, 2007, Miami acquired quarterback Trent Green in a trade. Three days later, the Dolphins informed Daunte Culpepper that he couldn't take reps in practice. Almost immediately, Culpepper left an off-season practice.

Four days after that, the NFL Players Association filed a breach-of-contract grievance on behalf of Culpepper.

"The first paragraph of the player contract says, 'Club employs player as a skilled football player,' " Richard Berthelsen, the NFLPA's general counsel, said at the time. "They are, in effect, breaching his contract by refusing to employ him. He either has a right to be employed there or elsewhere."

Eventually, a hearing was scheduled for July 18. The Dolphins cut Culpepper July 17.

Attempts by management to keep Favre off the field obviously would run the risk of alienating his teammates and fans.

[Harlan Huckleby]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GjxlguPYo0

but if you really love her, you'll want to dance to the extended version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeaokA-G8gA

[sheepshead]

nice...

[cpk1994]

My point was more that Brett could come out to the field, but not follow orders from the coaches. Like you said, they can't keep him off the field, but they also can not fully control his actions once on it.

For most players, the penalty for such insubordination would be demotion, bad relations, and a risk of being cut or rushed out into a trade. These penalties wouldn't really apply to Brett though, so he would be free to make as much a stink as he so desired.

Jeez... thinking through that scenario is pretty ugly. McCarthy would pop a lid, and considering how much weight he's put on over the off season, we'd be lucky if he got through it without a heart attack. I hope Brett has more class than that, but after this calling Ted "shattered" to national media, I'm not so sure anymore.

Todays press conference convinced me more than ever that M3's relationship with Brett is irrevocably ruined. He only referred to him as Brett Favre, never just Brett like always used to be the case. Brett's on Mike's shit list right now, no doubt about it.

Those penalties would appy to Brett and give M3 the reason to keep Favre as number 2. If Favre becomes insubordinate, M3 just tells the press, "Due to Brett's insuboridination he has been demoted to 3rd QB." Brett doing that would be the biggest mistake he has made yet.

[Patler]

Not letting him practice is not w/o precedent. Remember McNair when the Titans decided they were done with him?

That was VOLUNTARY offseason workouts that they held McNair out of...not training camp. So, the circumstances are a little different.

I would assume Favre could make a stink with the NFLPA if the Packers did not allow him to practice. The NFL wants to see Favre on the field in 2008...he's a moneymaker.

The problem in the McNair situation was that they barred him from even using the facilities. He was not allowed to train at or use any team equipment. That, they couldn't do.

hair splitting? mincing words? any of this ring true for you?

What the hell is your problem??????

[sheepshead]

You are a piece of work my Packer brothah, you truly are.

[Patler]

You are a piece of work my Packer brothah, you truly are.

Another intelligent response. (I hope sarcasm is not lost on you.)