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  • #61
    Originally posted by cpk1994
    Originally posted by Pacopete4
    Originally posted by cpk1994
    Originally posted by Gunakor
    Originally posted by cpk1994
    Originally posted by Pacopete4
    OR you have told your locker room we are going to let the guy compete like all of you are and if he wins, he wins.. but the best players will be on the field because gentlemen, we are here to win a fuckin super bowl... and im sure all the players in that locker room will agree
    Thats not how I would read it as a player. If m3 allows Favre to be thae starter, he better be prepared for the shitstorm that will happen when more players pull stunts.
    If Favre wins and everybody sees it, who's gonna bitch? If Favre earns his job then he should get it. I've been hoping for a competition. I think Aaron can beat Brett for the job, but if he doesn't then Brett should be and will be the starter.
    You know what Im done. Trade his ass to Minnesota, I don't care. I want him gone. I don't want to have to see that POS ever again!
    youre a tool, sorry to be rude, but wow.. you must not be a Packer fan if you can even talk about Brett that way
    IM a packer fan and I can say whatever I want about that POS. I want him GONE you haer me G O N E. I don't want to have to look or hear about him ever agin. And he can take TT, MM, and M3, the spineless cockroaches with them.

    haha youre a joke

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    • #62
      Originally posted by falco
      Originally posted by cpk1994
      IM a packer fan and I can say whatever I want about that POS. I want him GONE you haer me G O N E. I don't want to have to look or hear about him ever agin. And he can take TT, MM, and M3, the spineless cockroaches with them.
      i can't imagine our team would do to well after your purging, mr stalin
      Im soory, but I thought they were men who were high on commitment to team., I had a ton of respoect for them. Sadly is was all BS from them. They are just as spineless as Mike Sherman.

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      • #63
        Paco,

        I don't think Favre is a POS like cpk just stated, but I hold him mostly accountable for this debacle and how it's affected the team and their fans.

        He will have to do more than ever before to unite this team and the fans. If that means actually apologizing for this mess, that would do a lot. If Favre had so many people firmly in his corner, there would have been more than 100-200 at those rallies and more than 30 in Milwaukee.

        There are a lot that #4 has treated pretty poorly in this, so I understand CPK's frustration.
        -digital dean

        No "TROLLS" allowed!

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Pacopete4
          Originally posted by cpk1994
          Originally posted by Pacopete4
          Originally posted by cpk1994
          Originally posted by Gunakor
          Originally posted by cpk1994
          Originally posted by Pacopete4
          OR you have told your locker room we are going to let the guy compete like all of you are and if he wins, he wins.. but the best players will be on the field because gentlemen, we are here to win a fuckin super bowl... and im sure all the players in that locker room will agree
          Thats not how I would read it as a player. If m3 allows Favre to be thae starter, he better be prepared for the shitstorm that will happen when more players pull stunts.
          If Favre wins and everybody sees it, who's gonna bitch? If Favre earns his job then he should get it. I've been hoping for a competition. I think Aaron can beat Brett for the job, but if he doesn't then Brett should be and will be the starter.
          You know what Im done. Trade his ass to Minnesota, I don't care. I want him gone. I don't want to have to see that POS ever again!
          youre a tool, sorry to be rude, but wow.. you must not be a Packer fan if you can even talk about Brett that way
          IM a packer fan and I can say whatever I want about that POS. I want him GONE you haer me G O N E. I don't want to have to look or hear about him ever agin. And he can take TT, MM, and M3, the spineless cockroaches with them.

          haha youre a joke
          No, you are the joke by being the sole definer of what makes a packer fan.

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          • #65
            My take, assuming this is true (a disclaimer that has to be put on everything regarding this fiasco... I mean, scenario):

            a) they have to accept him on to the roster since they will not release him

            b) Favre is still not agreeing to a trade to the Jets, Buccs, or anywhere else Green Bay wants him to go

            c) Packers still won't trade him to the Vikings

            This means they're stuck with him (for now). I would assume McCarthy took the pulse of the locker room and he gets the feeling that the best move for team chemistry is an open competition. Presumably the players want the best man starting.

            Presumably this means Thompson (and probably Murphy and McCarthy) are setting aside personal preference for the sake of locker room harmony. I still firmly believe that Favre rubs these guys the wrong way and they'd prefer to be rid of him, but they won't give him away for less than full value either. Whether this approach is spineless, realistic, or opportunistic is open to interpretation.

            I would further assume (and we'll find out for sure tomorrow if this assumption is wrong) that Rodgers is still the starter until he loses the job. I don't see this as reneging any promise to Rodgers. The job was and is his to lose. If Rodgers had folded and Brohm stepped up, eventually Brohm would've been the starter. Same will be true with Favre. Any promise of a starting job should inherently come with the disclaimer that continued production is required to keep it.

            The big questions: what happens if Rodgers and Favre play even in camp and the pre-season? If Favre loses this competition, will he take it like a man or raise a big stink?

            If this is still Rodgers job to lose, I think it's entirely plausible that he'll play well enough to keep it.
            #14

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            • #66
              Originally posted by cpk1994
              Originally posted by Pacopete4
              Originally posted by cpk1994
              Originally posted by Pacopete4
              Originally posted by cpk1994
              Originally posted by Gunakor
              Originally posted by cpk1994
              Originally posted by Pacopete4
              OR you have told your locker room we are going to let the guy compete like all of you are and if he wins, he wins.. but the best players will be on the field because gentlemen, we are here to win a fuckin super bowl... and im sure all the players in that locker room will agree
              Thats not how I would read it as a player. If m3 allows Favre to be thae starter, he better be prepared for the shitstorm that will happen when more players pull stunts.
              If Favre wins and everybody sees it, who's gonna bitch? If Favre earns his job then he should get it. I've been hoping for a competition. I think Aaron can beat Brett for the job, but if he doesn't then Brett should be and will be the starter.
              You know what Im done. Trade his ass to Minnesota, I don't care. I want him gone. I don't want to have to see that POS ever again!
              youre a tool, sorry to be rude, but wow.. you must not be a Packer fan if you can even talk about Brett that way
              IM a packer fan and I can say whatever I want about that POS. I want him GONE you haer me G O N E. I don't want to have to look or hear about him ever agin. And he can take TT, MM, and M3, the spineless cockroaches with them.

              haha youre a joke
              No, you are the joke by being the sole definer of what makes a packer fan.
              If Favre is the starting QB and you root for him to fail then you are rooting for the Packers to fail. By any definition, that is not a Packer fan. I hope Rodgers wins this competition and is the starter, but if not then I'll root for Favre because I want the PACKERS to be successful.
              Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow

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              • #67
                Originally posted by digitaldean
                Paco,

                I don't think Favre is a POS like cpk just stated, but I hold him mostly accountable for this debacle and how it's affected the team and their fans.

                He will have to do more than ever before to unite this team and the fans. If that means actually apologizing for this mess, that would do a lot. If Favre had so many people firmly in his corner, there would have been more than 100-200 at those rallies and more than 30 in Milwaukee.

                There are a lot that #4 has treated pretty poorly in this, so I understand CPK's frustration.
                Understandable but to talk about a guy thats given us all hes had for 16 years and who has done more work in the community than any of us ever will.. i have to say that he at least has earned the respect of not tearing him down for changing his mind... who are we to say when he can stop playing? Yes, this situation is a mess and Favre is partly to blame for that... but it take two my brotha... it taaaaakes two...

                And I'm sorry too, because I cannot sit there and rip on a legend and a guy that has brought our organization to the level that is now at... without him, where the hell do you think we'd be?

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by cpk1994
                  Originally posted by Pacopete4
                  Originally posted by cpk1994
                  Originally posted by Gunakor
                  Originally posted by cpk1994
                  Originally posted by Pacopete4
                  OR you have told your locker room we are going to let the guy compete like all of you are and if he wins, he wins.. but the best players will be on the field because gentlemen, we are here to win a fuckin super bowl... and im sure all the players in that locker room will agree
                  Thats not how I would read it as a player. If m3 allows Favre to be thae starter, he better be prepared for the shitstorm that will happen when more players pull stunts.
                  If Favre wins and everybody sees it, who's gonna bitch? If Favre earns his job then he should get it. I've been hoping for a competition. I think Aaron can beat Brett for the job, but if he doesn't then Brett should be and will be the starter.
                  You know what Im done. Trade his ass to Minnesota, I don't care. I want him gone. I don't want to have to see that POS ever again!
                  youre a tool, sorry to be rude, but wow.. you must not be a Packer fan if you can even talk about Brett that way
                  IM a packer fan and I can say whatever I want about that POS. I want him GONE you haer me G O N E. I don't want to have to look or hear about him ever agin. And he can take TT, MM, and M3, the spineless cockroaches with them.
                  Meds anyone? Seriously you're talking about someone that's brought this organization back to the top over the past 16 years. Has he not handled situations well? Of course not, but man, please show a little respect.
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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Gunakor
                    Originally posted by cpk1994
                    Originally posted by Pacopete4
                    Originally posted by cpk1994
                    Originally posted by Pacopete4
                    Originally posted by cpk1994
                    Originally posted by Gunakor
                    Originally posted by cpk1994
                    Originally posted by Pacopete4
                    OR you have told your locker room we are going to let the guy compete like all of you are and if he wins, he wins.. but the best players will be on the field because gentlemen, we are here to win a fuckin super bowl... and im sure all the players in that locker room will agree
                    Thats not how I would read it as a player. If m3 allows Favre to be thae starter, he better be prepared for the shitstorm that will happen when more players pull stunts.
                    If Favre wins and everybody sees it, who's gonna bitch? If Favre earns his job then he should get it. I've been hoping for a competition. I think Aaron can beat Brett for the job, but if he doesn't then Brett should be and will be the starter.
                    You know what Im done. Trade his ass to Minnesota, I don't care. I want him gone. I don't want to have to see that POS ever again!
                    youre a tool, sorry to be rude, but wow.. you must not be a Packer fan if you can even talk about Brett that way
                    IM a packer fan and I can say whatever I want about that POS. I want him GONE you haer me G O N E. I don't want to have to look or hear about him ever agin. And he can take TT, MM, and M3, the spineless cockroaches with them.

                    haha youre a joke
                    No, you are the joke by being the sole definer of what makes a packer fan.
                    If Favre is the starting QB and you root for him to fail then you are rooting for the Packers to fail. By any definition, that is not a Packer fan. I hope Rodgers wins this competition and is the starter, but if not then I'll root for Favre because I want the PACKERS to be successful.
                    I will never root for that POS again. And management can go stick their 'Team commitment" where the sun don't shine. They obviously don't know what that means.

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                    • #70
                      I think the best scenario is for Favre to be the starter, with the stated backing of Aaron Rodgers. Give Rodgers a contract extension which will assure him the pay of a starting QB.
                      I can't run no more
                      With that lawless crowd
                      While the killers in high places
                      Say their prayers out loud
                      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                      A thundercloud
                      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Pacopete4
                        Originally posted by digitaldean
                        Paco,

                        I don't think Favre is a POS like cpk just stated, but I hold him mostly accountable for this debacle and how it's affected the team and their fans.

                        He will have to do more than ever before to unite this team and the fans. If that means actually apologizing for this mess, that would do a lot. If Favre had so many people firmly in his corner, there would have been more than 100-200 at those rallies and more than 30 in Milwaukee.

                        There are a lot that #4 has treated pretty poorly in this, so I understand CPK's frustration.
                        Understandable but to talk about a guy thats given us all hes had for 16 years and who has done more work in the community than any of us ever will.. i have to say that he at least has earned the respect of not tearing him down for changing his mind... who are we to say when he can stop playing? Yes, this situation is a mess and Favre is partly to blame for that... but it take two my brotha... it taaaaakes two...

                        And I'm sorry too, because I cannot sit there and rip on a legend and a guy that has brought our organization to the level that is now at... without him, where the hell do you think we'd be?
                        Careful Paco... Without Favre's OT interception... I know the whole team struggled in that game, but Favre was no exception. We didn't get a chance to see what Rodgers could do in the cold. Just sayin.
                        Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by digitaldean
                          Paco,

                          I don't think Favre is a POS like cpk just stated, but I hold him mostly accountable for this debacle and how it's affected the team and their fans.

                          He will have to do more than ever before to unite this team and the fans. If that means actually apologizing for this mess, that would do a lot. If Favre had so many people firmly in his corner, there would have been more than 100-200 at those rallies and more than 30 in Milwaukee.

                          There are a lot that #4 has treated pretty poorly in this, so I understand CPK's frustration.
                          I appreciate that.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by cpk1994
                            Originally posted by Gunakor
                            Originally posted by Fosco33
                            Good. Make a decision and go that way.

                            So you 'lost' a pick on getting Flynn - maybe he would've been a decent QB but hard to keep 4 on the roster if Favre stays as part of reg season roster.

                            I still like the Brohm pick and they needed to do something about 3rd string.

                            What else did the Packers do differently 'moving past Favre'?

                            If Favre wins the starting QB spot, I think management has sent the message that they think ARod is ready and maybe they use him more (especially late season). Will ARod really be 'fed up' with GB about not playing this year and leave - or will he be finally able to move past Favre?
                            If he leaves, were fucked. Those who complain about Rodgers' inexperience should be the first to agree with me. If Rodgers leaves then we are left with an even more inexperienced Brian Brohm, who basically fortfieted his rookie season because the 3rd string QB doesn't get very many reps at all. How is he going to develop into anything sitting on the bottom of the depth chart? Rodgers is the answer long term, and every effort should be made to keep him happy and in Green Bay. Especially now that Favre is coming back, because like I said, that means that Brohm isn't going to develop any this year.
                            Well now that management has lost their spine and caved to Lord Favre, kiss Rodgers goodbye. Hes gone.
                            If Rodgers' decision to leave is based on the situation with Favre this year, it would be very, very immature on his part. Rodgers' best chance to succeed will be in GB, in a system he will know very well and with a coach and GM who like him and will "owe him" in a way.

                            IF GB is his best opportunity, here is where he should stay, regardless of what happened this year with Favre. However, if Favre decides to return for yet another season, his best opportunity may not be in GB. But, a lot can happen between now and next Spring.

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                            • #74
                              Montauk J. Jones
                              Favre can still play? Maybe in week three against detroit but not in a money game, a cold game, and God know's not a playoff game. Bigger the game, bigger the choke job.

                              One thing about Rogers is we won't watch some wild eyed Qb choking away the big game or folding like a cheap suit in the playoff's.

                              July 27, 2008 4:09 PM
                              I'd start Aaron all year long, but be willing to pull him if he falters during a game.

                              There could be worse things than having Favre as backup.
                              more freedom, less government. Go Sarah!

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by DonHutson

                                The big questions: what happens if Rodgers and Favre play even in camp and the pre-season? If Favre loses this competition, will he take it like a man or raise a big stink?
                                if they play even.......i'd give it to the guy with the legs...Rodgers. if this happens i'd hope Brett would do the right thing. ya know...i think THAT would make him retire for good.

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