Good Job Thompson....It Only Took 4 Years.

[Fritz]

Hey, I liked Tennessee Ernie Ford. Made great sausage commercials back in the day.

As for the Jets' o-line being better...Damien Woody was overweight and undermotivated the whole time he was in Detroit, until the last half of the last year, when he realized he was playing for a contract. Then he suddenly became interested. I believe this is why New England let him go in the first place.

Now he's got a big, new contract. I wonder how he'll play?

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Overweight? How can you tell...he is a lineman. When he was injured he did balloon up..but, he lost that weight by going to the duke program..hardly someone who is unmotivated..and playing at 335.

Undermotivated? again, how can you tell. I say the opposite..he lost his starting position at guard, was inactive for a couple of games and worked his way into the starting lineup at RT. That hardly sounds like someone is unmotivated.

The facts are this..he started for two Superbowl winning teams. He started 76 games with the Pats and was considered the anchor of the line.

He was a pro bowler in 02 and alternate in 04. He started every game 04 and 05 before and injury sidelined him in 06.

He is versatile and has played every position on the line cept for LT.

At worst he is an above average lineman.

Okay, Tyrone, I couldn't just lete this go. I actually looked for some facts. You are correct that Woody started all sixteen games for Detroit in '04 and '05. In '06 he started five games and was out then for the season. In '07 he played in 13 games, starting 8 of those. He did switch positions, moving to right tackle.

I should clarify that I do not think Woody is always unmotivated; I think he is motivated when he is coming up for a contract. Although he did play in all 16 games for two years after signing with Detroit, this does not mean he necessarily played all that well. Here's a piece from an article from MLive.com, from an August '08 article:

Woody making excuses for underperforming in Detroit?
Posted by Philip Zaroo | MLive.com August 01, 2008 05:10AM
"One of the more frustrating names for Detroit Lions fans over the years is that of offensive lineman Damien Woody. Coming from the New England Patriots, there were high expectations that the guard would anchor a solidified offensive front.

"It never came to fruition. Through weight problems and injury, Woody struggled to perform at a high level despite his large salary. He did just enough, however, in filling in for the Lions at tackle – a position he hadn't played since high school – to get a big payday from the New York Jets, where, he says, he can have the discipline he needs."

This was the general sentiment in Detroit, and one with which I agree.

[Tarlam!]

First of all, I would like to thank you for keeping your response respectfull, and also thank anyone else who has posted to this thread with any kind of dignity or respect. Lately, if I post something, I like to let the thread go by itself for a while, to let all the smart/dumb-asses get in their attempts to be witty. If the thread dies before I get back to it, so be it. I just like to express my opinions in the hopes of hearing from others that share my views.

People treat you like they do because you're an ass triscuit. You have no respect for anything or anyone and yet expect everyone else to respect your idiotic, mentally stunted views. Beyond that, you never have any truthful basis behind your posts. When someone takes the time to disprove one of your fucking retarded posts, you don't reply, you slink away for a couple days then come back and post the same stupid vomit. Fuck yourself in the eye socket and die. Is that respectful enough for you little pud licker?

I've never really understood why you hold back on your true feelings when you post, Skin. I think you need therapy, you clearly bottle up your true feelings and that can't be healthy. Listen, Bro, I care!! Get some help!!!

[Deputy Nutz]

First of all, I would like to thank you for keeping your response respectfull, and also thank anyone else who has posted to this thread with any kind of dignity or respect. Lately, if I post something, I like to let the thread go by itself for a while, to let all the smart/dumb-asses get in their attempts to be witty. If the thread dies before I get back to it, so be it. I just like to express my opinions in the hopes of hearing from others that share my views.

People treat you like they do because you're an ass triscuit. You have no respect for anything or anyone and yet expect everyone else to respect your idiotic, mentally stunted views. Beyond that, you never have any truthful basis behind your posts. When someone takes the time to disprove one of your fucking retarded posts, you don't reply, you slink away for a couple days then come back and post the same stupid vomit. Fuck yourself in the eye socket and die. Is that respectful enough for you little pud licker?

I've never really understood why you hold back on your true feelings when you post, Skin. I think you need therapy, you clearly bottle up your true feelings and that can't be healthy. Listen, Bro, I care!! Get some help!!!

I love dipshits that argue against each other and bash. Such as this thread. Sure you have some reasonable thought out reponses and then you have those that choose to respond in the above manner, such as other "ass triscuit" CPK, and Sheepshead. keep it up morons keep it up! I am truly entertain. Gone for a week but yet the stupidity continues.

[cpk1994]

First of all, I would like to thank you for keeping your response respectfull, and also thank anyone else who has posted to this thread with any kind of dignity or respect. Lately, if I post something, I like to let the thread go by itself for a while, to let all the smart/dumb-asses get in their attempts to be witty. If the thread dies before I get back to it, so be it. I just like to express my opinions in the hopes of hearing from others that share my views.

People treat you like they do because you're an ass triscuit. You have no respect for anything or anyone and yet expect everyone else to respect your idiotic, mentally stunted views. Beyond that, you never have any truthful basis behind your posts. When someone takes the time to disprove one of your fucking retarded posts, you don't reply, you slink away for a couple days then come back and post the same stupid vomit. Fuck yourself in the eye socket and die. Is that respectful enough for you little pud licker?

I've never really understood why you hold back on your true feelings when you post, Skin. I think you need therapy, you clearly bottle up your true feelings and that can't be healthy. Listen, Bro, I care!! Get some help!!!

I love dipshits that argue against each other and bash. Such as this thread. Sure you have some reasonable thought out reponses and then you have those that choose to respond in the above manner, such as other "ass triscuit" CPK, and Sheepshead. keep it up morons keep it up! I am truly entertain. Gone for a week but yet the stupidity continues.

Takes one to know one....

Pot calling kettle...

I could go on.

[sheepshead]

First of all, I would like to thank you for keeping your response respectfull, and also thank anyone else who has posted to this thread with any kind of dignity or respect. Lately, if I post something, I like to let the thread go by itself for a while, to let all the smart/dumb-asses get in their attempts to be witty. If the thread dies before I get back to it, so be it. I just like to express my opinions in the hopes of hearing from others that share my views.

People treat you like they do because you're an ass triscuit. You have no respect for anything or anyone and yet expect everyone else to respect your idiotic, mentally stunted views. Beyond that, you never have any truthful basis behind your posts. When someone takes the time to disprove one of your fucking retarded posts, you don't reply, you slink away for a couple days then come back and post the same stupid vomit. Fuck yourself in the eye socket and die. Is that respectful enough for you little pud licker?

I've never really understood why you hold back on your true feelings when you post, Skin. I think you need therapy, you clearly bottle up your true feelings and that can't be healthy. Listen, Bro, I care!! Get some help!!!

I love dipshits that argue against each other and bash. Such as this thread. Sure you have some reasonable thought out reponses and then you have those that choose to respond in the above manner, such as other "ass triscuit" CPK, and Sheepshead. keep it up morons keep it up! I am truly entertain. Gone for a week but yet the stupidity continues.

your board police shtick is tiresome. There is no decorum on this board. Some people/posts deserve to be challenged and challenged in the strongest language possible, If someone is that stupid and insulting, they should hear about it. Maybe you like to read total bullshit, most of us have trouble with it. so find some other worthwhile pursuit. Both of you knob gobblers.

[Tarlam!]

Both of you knob gobblers.

I take it you are calling me names with this?

You pathetic little fuckwit! Get a clue before you demonstrate your ignorance for all the world to see. I have told you many times, you don't have a clue what is what on this board. But I am a well-meaning soul, I'll fill you in. Despite you being an ignorant ass-wipe.

Nutz, Skin and I belong to an elite few on this board that actually have met, shook hands and thrown a football to eachother in a Green Bay street.

Nutz and Skin baby sit eachother's kids and help renovate eachother's houses.

You have no idea, Sheepdip. When you finally get a friend, I'll be happy for you.

[mraynrand]

Both of you knob gobblers.

I take it you are calling me names with this?

You pathetic little fuckwit! Get a clue before you demonstrate your ignorance for all the world to see. I have told you many times, you don't have a clue what is what on this board. But I am a well-meaning soul, I'll fill you in. Despite you being an ignorant ass-wipe.

Nutz, Skin and I belong to an elite few on this board that actually have met, shook hands and thrown a football to eachother in a Green Bay street.

Nutz and Skin baby sit eachother's kids and help renovate eachother's houses.

You have no idea, Sheepdip. When you finally get a friend, I'll be happy for you.

Elitist!

[sheepshead]

Both of you knob gobblers.

I take it you are calling me names with this?

You pathetic little fuckwit! Get a clue before you demonstrate your ignorance for all the world to see. I have told you many times, you don't have a clue what is what on this board. But I am a well-meaning soul, I'll fill you in. Despite you being an ignorant ass-wipe.

Nutz, Skin and I belong to an elite few on this board that actually have met, shook hands and thrown a football to eachother in a Green Bay street.

Nutz and Skin baby sit eachother's kids and help renovate eachother's houses.

You have no idea, Sheepdip. When you finally get a friend, I'll be happy for you.

this is very tiresome--go away

[Tarlam!]

this is very tiresome--go away

Don't pick fights and you won't get bashed, idiot.

[Merlin]

Not much shocks me anymore in here. For those of us who have long held that Ted Thompson's agenda was to make this "his" team, which includes removing every influence from the prior GM(s) and coaching staff(s) team(s), Ted Thompson didn't disappoint us. For those of you who have done nothing but ridicule us, you want the truth but you can't handle the truth. There were a lot of things that went on during this whole ordeal that we will never know. You can BANK on Brett Favre opening up his mouth and saying what he feels and what he believes even if YOU think he "sounds" like a prima-dona, at least you cannot question his sincerity and honesty. You certainly CAN NOT say the same about Ted Thompson.

What I said holds true, this is about wining football games. Without question, for Ted Thompson, that is not the case, it's about Ted Thompson. I read someone say that Ted doesn't get to determine who gets to play, that is steaming pile of dung. A GM has more influence then you think, especially one that wants things his way. After watching Family Night and part of the first pre-season game, I can say this much, you Rodgers apologists disgust me. He does NOT look all world. He looks a tad below average. I saw the words "goes through progressions", really? I didn't see that once. He looked at who he was going to throw at when the ball was snapped and then watched them until they were open. Sure you have to "read" the defense at the line of scrimmage but you "look off" the receivers so the defense doesn't start to key on your eyes. His timing wasn't great and if Favre had thrown that interception you can BANK on the Rodgers apologists calling for Favre to be benched. But because Rodgers threw into double coverage (for those of you who have no idea what that is, it means two defensive players are covering the area) and the ball was "tipped", it isn't his fault. Horse squeeze, it is his fault, just like it would have been Favre's fault. If the receiver had made the catch it would have been an "outstanding" catch, not a good or advised throw.

Don't get me wrong, Rodgers did have some nice throws. He looked "better" then he did against Dallas and he looked all world in comparison to Brian Brohm, which isn't saying much. I am a Packer fan and he is our QB but that doesn't mean I have to spoon all over the guy when it's obvious he has a long way to go. He also is still doing the things that he needs to improve on to make it in this league: Stares down his primary receiver, has zero pocket presence, and his accuracy is a little bit of a concern (let me guess, it's the receivers running the wrong route right?).

I am pretty sick an tired of all of the bs people like myself have to take for pointing out the truth, the obvious, and also sharing what we consider to be our opinions. Your rhetoric is old, we all get it, you have a love affair for Ted Thompson and Aaron Rodgers and you have no tolerance for the truth or anyone else's opinion. I am sick of reading post after post of the same line of sheep manure. If your shit doesn't stink, then I suggest you create your own sight so you and your rump rangers can all share the same brain in harmony instead of having to pass it from thread to thread. It's boring, tiring, and as anit-Packer fan as you can get.

[sheepshead]

[quote="Tarlam!"]

this is very tiresome--go away

Don't pick fights and you won't get bashed, idiot.[/quot


I'm not getting bashed. Just annoyed by a know nothing twerp.

[Tarlam!]

I'm not getting bashed. Just annoyed by a know nothing twerp.

I am a no-nothing, but I've never admitted to being more. You on the other hand think your shit don't stink. I'm here to tell you that your shit is as putrid as your comments on this board.

Like I said, I'll be happy for you when you finally find out what it's like to have a friend. Until then, I'll just have to be generous and overlook much of your pathetic little outbursts.

[Fritz]

So how 'bout that old Damien Woody?

[sheepshead]

HAAAAAAAAA

[Carolina_Packer]

What you are saying makes sense retailguy, and even though my posts are a bit over dramatic, or one sided.........there is no denying that Thompson is building a strong team. It is not full of Pro-bowlers or anything, but it looks like it can be a very good Packer team. Almost a team of "Kampmans", which can be a good thing with any luck.

As for what I think of Thompson as a person..........

If you were hired to fix a team that was chock-full of veteran talent, and headed towards salary cap hell................how would you do it?

1)cut or let go as many high salary players as you can? (Wahle, Flannigan, Rivera, Longwell, Sharper................)

2)Stop signing other teams free agents, and try to improve through the draft.

3)hold on to your "Big Name" franchise players until you think you have all the other pieces in place.........just to keep the fans happy.

Sounds a lot like "REBUILDING" to me, and thats fine, if you are a fan of the team and you do not mind waiting a few years for your team to be competitive again.

But, if you happen to be a HOF QB, who signed a lifetime contract with that same team during a time that the team was commited to "WINNING NOW".....................

How does that sit? Especially when the GM keeps saying "we are not rebuilding." If that same GM will lie about that to placate the fans and his HOF QB, do you think it is also possible then that he might lead his HOF QB on a little more, by entertaining discussions with him about who the new head coach should be? About picking up a FA such as Moss? Why not? Having Favre's face around during the rebuiliding phase kept money coming in, and kept seats filled.

It all made sense from a business stand point, but I don't root for business's, I root for the Packers, and the players.

PB, it's hard to argue with success, and the proof is in the pudding, as TT likes to say. I hear you giving TT credit, which is appropriate. I don't think it was blind luck, but planning and execution. For TT detractors, he may not have done things the way that you would have, but he's done them and seems to be on the right track. The Favre situation was difficult, and he had nothing but tough choices to make in the whole situation. Keep Favre and all but shoot down Rodgers' chance to be a long-term solution by placating Brett for possibly only one more year and another possible retirement ("This time I really mean it!...No Seriously.") or jettison (no pun intended) Favre to another team. I think it was Favre who lost his desire to play in Green Bay after the Packers moved on with Rodgers because of Favre's indecision after retirement. It's done and over with.

I think TT wants to build a winning organization, and felt confident that he had his QB in Rodgers, albeit, there were unknown factors, but it speaks to his confidence in Rodgers. There would have been a lot more butt-kissing by TT if he wasn't condident that Rodgers could perform well. He also seems to be about building a team, not placating a star player. His choice. There are ramifications if you do placate a star player as far as building a team, especially one who is 38, almost 39. It's a shame that it came to a show-down, but it did and we all move on. I think TT has the Packers best interests in mind and is building a good team. The proof will be on the field. Favre would have been a no-brainer for a comeback if we are sitting with Craig Nall, or worse as a backup once Favre retires in March. Since we had Rodgers, we had another option.