OFFICIAL BRETT THE LIVING LEGEND THREAD

[Patler]

How is a spokesman saying she hasn't decided and is weighing her options a threat? Might she have been asked if she'll sue? He said she could. Or she could not. That's not a threat. It's the perfect answer from a spokesperson. And if I were in the middle of a mess like this one, I'd damn sure want someone else doing the commenting. Next question: did she sue?

Agreed. A threat is more like; "Jets, Mr. Favre; I want half-a-million or I'll sue."

[retailguy]

How is a spokesman saying she hasn't decided and is weighing her options a threat? Might she have been asked if she'll sue? He said she could. Or she could not. That's not a threat. It's the perfect answer from a spokesperson. And if I were in the middle of a mess like this one, I'd damn sure want someone else doing the commenting. Next question: did she sue?

Agreed. A threat is more like; "Jets, Mr. Favre; I want half-a-million or I'll sue."

really? We're arguing over my choice of a VERB? C'mon. Your point was "when did she say she'd sue?" in response to my point that you could hire an attorney to defend you without saying you'd sue.

Pathetic.

[Patler]

really? We're arguing over my choice of a VERB? C'mon. Your point was "when did she say she'd sue?" in response to my point that you could hire an attorney to defend you without saying you'd sue.

Pathetic.

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[retailguy]

Come on RG. We're all entitled to our opinions. We are all privvy to the same "facts" as divulged by media sources and we interpret those "facts" to form our opinions based on our experiences in life. We "bother", because that's what this forum is here for; to express our opinions and debate them. You've done a good job of presenting your case and why you interpret the scenario the way you do. I think Zig has, also. That's why we're here, isn't it?

I think that my tone didn't come off as intended. You're right, I've pretty much stated my case, it is what I believe, and so have you and ziggy. I think we're done debating, as proof, I offer the last 3 posts, where instead of saying "hell, you're right, she did say she could sue", we dissect the meaning of "threat".

That's when you know the discussion is over... No malice was intended, in either post.

[MJZiggy]

I think that my tone didn't come off as intended. You're right, I've pretty much stated my case, it is what I believe, and so have you and ziggy. I think we're done debating, as proof, I offer the last 3 posts, where instead of saying "hell, you're right, she did say she could sue", we dissect the meaning of "threat".

That's when you know the discussion is over... No malice was intended, in either post.

I'm just trying to work from your original point that this is her fault and she doesn't deserve to have a job (unless she's willing to settle for Mickey D's or something) to your suggestion that she intended to or tried to make herself into a victim and sue. I just don't see it. The article was about her wanting to know how Favre got her phone number which I think is a very valid question. My assumption is that if the press hadn't gotten hold of this story, nothing would ever have come of it. No investigation, fine, lawyers, spokespeople or any of it. Deadspin cost Favre $50K (not at all suggesting that he wasn't the root cause) and probably made it much more difficult for Ms. Sterger to find employment than it might have been. Still Favre's fault for having a teenie weenie that he just had to photograph.

[Tarlam!]

Well, if it's any consolation, I feel it was said in a threatening manner, too. But it was a spokesman, who maybe wanted to overstate his own importance during his 15 seconds of fame. None of us really know what Sterger was really thinking.

Once the story broke, she may have felt compelled to react a certain way. Or not. I still think she's the victim.

[get louder at lambeau]

I think Jenn's career was already on the down slope before any of us ever heard of her, wasn't it? She was a flavor of the month college girl with fake boobs who got hired as eye candy. Now she's a little older, had the implants removed, and is known as the face of a scandal, even if she was on the innocent side of it. I'm not sure she'd have a career in sports broadcasting either way right now, scandal or not, but the scandal just makes it even harder to hire her for a role where she is supposed to be the interviewer and not the story.

[Bretsky]

Why would you want to? Her "assets" have been reduced, from what I learned here.

I don't think that stock is overvalued and I'd be glad to own it as is for a while

[Cheesehead Craig]

Given she's been released from every sports gig she's had (which have been several) after a very short term should speak volumnes about her ability. I don't believe she has any in the field that she's chosen. I agree with RG, she needs to temper her expectations of what she is able to get. I don't think he meant McDonalds at all, but I don't think she has a future at all in front of the camera for sports. Maybe she can use her college education of her degrees in psychology and criminology to use and get a job using that.

Her 15 minutes is done.

[retailguy]

I'm just trying to work from your original point that this is her fault and she doesn't deserve to have a job (unless she's willing to settle for Mickey D's or something) to your suggestion that she intended to or tried to make herself into a victim and sue. I just don't see it. The article was about her wanting to know how Favre got her phone number which I think is a very valid question. My assumption is that if the press hadn't gotten hold of this story, nothing would ever have come of it. No investigation, fine, lawyers, spokespeople or any of it. Deadspin cost Favre $50K (not at all suggesting that he wasn't the root cause) and probably made it much more difficult for Ms. Sterger to find employment than it might have been. Still Favre's fault for having a teenie weenie that he just had to photograph.

My original point that "it is her fault?" What? If you're referring to Favre, I don't believe that at all. Probably the only thing anyone could get her for is that she didn't shoot it down right away and allowed it to continue (and that's a stretch at best).

What is her fault is where her career is today. She's blundered a bunch of decisions along the way. But really, those things are really only supplementary to her ability to hold a job. She doesn't have a good track record.

I understand she has a degree and my opinion is she should pursue a career in those areas. My complaint with her is that she wants to be "famous". She tried desperately to hold on to that career, and as a result made stupid, seemingly desperate decisions to try to stay there. You could argue that she is paying a price for that, but shouldn't she be responsible for her decisions? I fail to see how that's unfair.

If she is trained in restaurant management, Micky D's might be a great career path, but I think she has some type of political science degree, and therefore might not manage a McDonalds any better than she can interview football players. I don't happen to think that McDonalds is a bad place to work. I started off my working career as a busboy and then shortly moved to a Dairy Queen. I managed one while in college.

My point is - she isn't a famous celebrity with a 7 figure income, though she has a "known name". Because she has a "known name" she thinks (or is trying to convince all of us), that career paths that should be open to her are now closed because of this scandal. I do not believe that those career paths are open to her, and if they ever were, are now closed, primarily because of her work performance, not this scandal.

[mraynrand]

"After I got the Jets job in January, I had a conversation with Favre and told him I’d be happy to have him come back," Ryan says. "Part of me really wanted to coach Favre and I think we would have been great with him, even for the $15 million he was supposed to cost us if we kept him; but he said he was retiring, and I could just feel that he didn’t want to play here again. It was obvious he wanted to play for Minnesota so that he could try to get his revenge on Green Bay. . . . Favre wanted to stick it to Green Bay. I get it."


Rex Ryan from his book. No surprise, but at least he's candid. Many others prevaricate.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Also from Ryan:

Ryan says if the Jets had not drafted Mark Sanchez, "I would have flown down to Mississippi just like Brad Childress did, and I would have brought Favre back to New York no matter what it took, but that wasn’t really our first choice. We didn’t want to wait for Favre and have our team held hostage by his off-season routine."

[Joemailman]

Is he back yet?

[Bretsky]

If we were at Camp Randall you might have some PR posters standing, and pointing at you with the asshole chant...

[Freak Out]

Say it ain't so Joe!