OFFICIAL BRETT THE LIVING LEGEND THREAD

[Smeefers]

I think Favre has said as much as he is going to say. He gave a pretty detailed interview with Mens' Health a while back during the summer of 2010, before all the sexting stuff happened. He didn't throw anyone under the bus or anything. Detailed some of the process when he came back to Green Bay in the summer of 2008. Favre has lost the battle for Green Bay Packer fans. Take a poll around here and I think that will prove my point. Someone already said that he would boo during the retirement of his jersey presentation. Nothing Favre says is going to alter the perspective of Packer Fan.

Thompson is never going to say anything. The only one that I could see really getting into it would be McCarthy when he is done as coach.

No, there's a ton he could do to change my mind about him. He could say he was sorry about how everything turned out instead of saying that if you're a "real" packer fan, you'd support him. He could do an interview and actually praise the packers organization. I'll admit he's done that once, maybe twice since he's retired, but they're always one liners and most of the time whenever he's back in the news, it's about him sticking it to the pack - giving the lions hints, Saying he was surprised Rodgers hadn't won a Super Bowl earlier, although I'm not sure if that's a complement, I suppose you could take that one either way. One thing that he did that mended a bit of the fence for me was when he was chatting with the Army Reservists when they were training in Missouri before they deployed. That's frickin awesome. As of now though, in my opinion he hasn't done enough. I think time and a couple well placed comments will turn me around. I also think that there's some fans out there that will really hate him until the end, but there's nothing you can do about that. He played for the vikings just to get us and he beat the shit out of us when he played us. That's the thing rivalries are made of.

It's just like Holgrem. I hated him when he left after we lost the big game for Seattle. I found a way to blame everything on him and I just sort of stewed in it for years. Then I started seeing those NFL Films "behind the games" kind of shows and they had a few about the Pack. Specifically the super bowl in 96, I listened to MH talk about how awesome the whole team was. He talked about Brett like he was his son and he talked about Reggie like he was the best DE he'd ever seen. He talked about how great the fans were in Green Bay and what a great town it was and under so much praise, I had a hard time remembering why I was so mad at him. Yeah, you can go on about the things he did wrong - and there was a ton of things he did wrong on his way out - but he fixed it with those few interviews.

[Zool]

Are we still going over this fucking thing? It's amazing how there can be experts on something with they are only fed information from the media.

The first person here who can claim they were working in the Packers front office during the time can say what they think is fact. Everyone else is arguing conjecture, here say, and down right idiocy.

Let this shit be in the past where it belongs.

[Smeefers]

Are we still going over this fucking thing? It's amazing how there can be experts on something with they are only fed information from the media.

The first person here who can claim they were working in the Packers front office during the time can say what they think is fact. Everyone else is arguing conjecture, here say, and down right idiocy.

Let this shit be in the past where it belongs.

But... but... it's so much fun!

[Deputy Nutz]

No, there's a ton he could do to change my mind about him. He could say he was sorry about how everything turned out instead of saying that if you're a "real" packer fan, you'd support him. He could do an interview and actually praise the packers organization. I'll admit he's done that once, maybe twice since he's retired, but they're always one liners and most of the time whenever he's back in the news, it's about him sticking it to the pack - giving the lions hints, Saying he was surprised Rodgers hadn't won a Super Bowl earlier, although I'm not sure if that's a complement, I suppose you could take that one either way. One thing that he did that mended a bit of the fence for me was when he was chatting with the Army Reservists when they were training in Missouri before they deployed. That's frickin awesome. As of now though, in my opinion he hasn't done enough. I think time and a couple well placed comments will turn me around. I also think that there's some fans out there that will really hate him until the end, but there's nothing you can do about that. He played for the vikings just to get us and he beat the shit out of us when he played us. That's the thing rivalries are made of.

It's just like Holgrem. I hated him when he left after we lost the big game for Seattle. I found a way to blame everything on him and I just sort of stewed in it for years. Then I started seeing those NFL Films "behind the games" kind of shows and they had a few about the Pack. Specifically the super bowl in 96, I listened to MH talk about how awesome the whole team was. He talked about Brett like he was his son and he talked about Reggie like he was the best DE he'd ever seen. He talked about how great the fans were in Green Bay and what a great town it was and under so much praise, I had a hard time remembering why I was so mad at him. Yeah, you can go on about the things he did wrong - and there was a ton of things he did wrong on his way out - but he fixed it with those few interviews.

So he has to apologize, and beg for your acceptance, and praise the Packers for how awesome they are. Forget about all the games he won and all the excitement he brought to the fans when he actually played for the Packers, none of that actually counts for anything anymore.
Take a step back and recognize that this is only professional football. This isn't your career or your family, you are a fan and take it for what it is. Entertainment for 3 hours on a Sunday afternoon.

[Bossman641]

I can't believe people still think that Favre has some giant secret on how the Packers screwed him but that he is only keeping it to himself.

Yes, the guy who went on Greta and was going to set the story straight and tell all about how he had been wronged. What were his complaints? That he couldn't play GM. That TT wouldn't sign Moss or bring in Mooch as coach. Boo fucking hoo.

The guy who had his family members speaking to the press for him. The guy who called the Lions out of nowhere to provide them with info about the Packers in hopes the Packers would lose. The same guy who told Urlacher "good luck and now go beat the Packers." The same guy whose family booked a block of 30 hotel rooms in April 2009 for the Packers-Vikings game that coming November, while he was still a member of the Jets.

Yes, I'm sure Favre has all kinds of dirt on MM and TT. He must just be too classy to make it public

[sharpe1027]

He doesn't have to apologize. He's a grown man and can do what he wants...but it would help.

I appreciated, and still appreciate, the time he put in to help the Packers. I did not appreciate his time put in to try to stick it to the Packers. Different people weigh those two things differently and come to their own personal opinions. No opinion is entirely wrong; no opinion is entirely right. For me, I have no problem honoring him for his time on the field (by retiring his number, etc.); but that doesn't mean I will defend when someone mentions the crap he pulled.

The sooner people on both sides stop trying to defend their position as if they could prove themselves right and others wrong, the better.

[Fritz]

So he has to apologize, and beg for your acceptance, and praise the Packers for how awesome they are. Forget about all the games he won and all the excitement he brought to the fans when he actually played for the Packers, none of that actually counts for anything anymore.
Take a step back and recognize that this is only professional football. This isn't your career or your family, you are a fan and take it for what it is. Entertainment for 3 hours on a Sunday afternoon.

If he would let me have sex with his wife, that would go a long way toward helping me feel better about him.

[Brandon494]

Wow yall are losers! Three years later and we are still talking about this? We have a super bowl trophy, MVP at QB, and Farve showed exactly why we had to let him go in the playoff game against the Saints. You Farve lovers were wrong, TT was right... let's move on!

[sharpe1027]

If he would let me have sex with his wife, that would go a long way toward helping me feel better about him.

If he let Fritz do this, I would also feel better about him. Should we get a petition going?

[Cheesehead Craig]

If he let Fritz do this, I would also feel better about him. Should we get a petition going?

Feel better about Fritz or Favre?

[Deputy Nutz]

If he would let me have sex with his wife, that would go a long way toward helping me feel better about him.

He just might.

[Deputy Nutz]

Wow yall are losers! Three years later and we are still talking about this? We have a super bowl trophy, MVP at QB, and Farve showed exactly why we had to let him go in the playoff game against the Saints. You Farve lovers were wrong, TT was right... let's move on!

Fuck you, there is nothing to talk about, unless you enjoy the babble about DD on dancing with the stars.

[sharpe1027]

Feel better about Fritz or Favre?

Both.

[Smeefers]

So he has to apologize, and beg for your acceptance, and praise the Packers for how awesome they are. Forget about all the games he won and all the excitement he brought to the fans when he actually played for the Packers, none of that actually counts for anything anymore.
Take a step back and recognize that this is only professional football. This isn't your career or your family, you are a fan and take it for what it is. Entertainment for 3 hours on a Sunday afternoon.

YOU'RE the one who said there was nothing he could do to turn the minds and hearts of packers fans. I was just giving you an example of how he could. I never said beg, you did. Way to twist words around to make your point. I never said what he did on the field didn't count, you did. The whole reason I give a shit about him is because of what he did on the field. That's why I want him to make amends! So I can go back to loving the guy and talking about how great he was without the "ya, but man, he sure did leave like the biggest, stinkiest, pile of shit I've ever seen."

It's also sure a helluva lot more than just 3 hours on a Sunday afternoon for me. I'm writing in a damn blog about the packers in the middle of May. I have just a bit more invested in the organization than a lousy 48 hours a year (plus playoffs). It's a hobby I take seriously and being so involved in it is what makes it so much fun. I'm going to take what happens to the team with more than just a little grain of salt. Brett Favre is the biggest baddest player of my lifetime to play on the Pack. Of course I'm going to get pissed at him when he takes a squat over the franchise and just has explosive bloody diarrhea over the whole thing.

[Deputy Nutz]

I was just like you Smeefers, until the Lacrosse team shoved a parking cone up my ass. Then I understood that no matter how many articles or blogs I wrote the Packers and every other professional sporting event was simply entertainment and being misserable for days or weeks because a team lost was a bit pathetic. What was even more pathetic was dry heaving in my friends driveway because I was so upset that the Packers lost in the NFC Title Game. There is a time to walk away, and then there is a time to run away and seek help. The parting of Favre from the Packers helped me see the light.