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**Bretsky** · 09-29-2008, 05:50 PM

Re: BS

Originally posted by Joemailman

Originally posted by Scott Campbell

Originally posted by LEWCWA

Originally posted by Scott Campbell

Originally posted by Packnut

Fact: Brett Favre, not MM or TT made this a 13-3 team last season.

Fact: Brett Favre made everyone around him a better player. He made the line look better with his ability to get rid of the ball. I remember arguing this point with several "know it alls" that dominate this forum. They claimed it was only part Favre. Well how many sacks with Mr Rodgers? It was ALL Favre!

Fact: Brett Favre's abilty to hurt teams through the air opened the run game up. How many yards do we have rushing? How well has Grant done.

Fact: This would be a better team with Favre right now than it is with Rodgers. This team is sloppy and mistake prone. It's the same players so why? What has changed from last season to this? Brett Favre perhaps????

Trying to pass off one's opinions as fact is kind of funny.

like everyone else here.

I don't think everyone here passes off opinions as facts. I'd say its a pretty small minority. I don't think I've ever seen you do it.

Anyone who does it is a moron, and that's a fact.

Now that's an opinion

**Fred's Slacks** · 09-29-2008, 05:59 PM

Re: BS

Originally posted by Carolina_Packer

2. We need to pass protect a bit better to give A-Rod some time to set-up in the pocket and not have to roll-out so much to buy time, and keep more drives alive longer to help the defense.

3. We need the running game to pick up and compliment the offense so that it's something for the opposing defense to be concerned about, not something to write off because the Packers give up on it (mostly). Gotta get this one right and fast. That will help the passing game big time.

I think this is really the key. If our Oline starts to play better it will go a long ways to curing what ails us. We've seen what Rodgers can do with time. If we had a running game, our Offense would be much better (I know, stating the obvious). It would also go a long way to helping our defense as well. Our DLine has shown they can apply preasure. Now if they didn't have to stay on the field so long, we might see better results later in the game (also less injuries). Right now the Oline is the key to the rest of the season. The problem is, I don't know how they're going to improve enough to make us better.

Originally posted by Carolina_Packer

4. We are banged up for sure, and that might have something to do with the results we've been seeing.

I think its actually the other way around. I think the injuries are more a result of how we're playing. You usually see more injuries when you're not playing well. When you play poorly, things happen that you're not prepared for and people are trying to compensate for others screw ups and they put themselves in situations where there more vulnerable. Ever notice that injuries seem to come at the worst times. I don't think its coincidence. Sure injuries happen when things are going well too, but they're not as prevalent.

**woodbuck27** · 09-29-2008, 06:07 PM

Originally posted by digitaldean

Remember, it's the FREAKIN' Cardinals. That wouldn't know a decent D if came and kicked them in the butt.

After playing a swarming 'D in SD Monday, Favre got beat up and threw 1 pick 6 and should have had a 2nd.

Flip side, from what highlights I did see, Rodgers did look out of sorts today.

I watched Brett Favre very carefully last week in a loss to the Chargers ( a very solid team with a growing QB) and the win yesterday. Favre looked solid in both games given the fact of when he joined his new team as a huge disadvantage (needing to learn the playbook) and the fact that he's the obvious huge factor in the offense on the Jets team.

Favre has played just soild football in the first four games and for anyone to argue against his results is just sour garapes.

Favre's completed an amazing 70% of his pass's. He's up to an average of 240 yards per game passing and 12 TD's and four pic's. At least the one pick yesterday, should have been called back, due to an obvious offside by the Card's DL. Favre thought he had a free shot. he took it and because of the lousy NFL officiating he got burnt. One other and maybe two more picks were because Jets WRs ran the wrong routes. Thye jetas will work out the kinks and behind a healthy favre grow as a team. Favre works so well with the jets coahing and is all about win and team over there. he's relaxed and fi9nally again playing happy. it,s really a good thing as I see it he,s out of Green bay as he knew the writing was obviouslyn on the wall as many here had to see it as I certainly did since TT's arrival.

I am going to tell all you Brett Favre doubters this. Brett Favre looks really really good so far this season. Then this. It was questionable whether or not he could play and stay in the game yesterday, as he was banged up Vs the Chargers. The Chargers 'D' took Favre to task until team coaching got it right and just said ''OK Brett go out there and do it''.

Favre looked awesome in the second half of that game Vs Dan Diego. I don't know why any Coach would not let Favre go when he looks right in a game. Ala....he has that killer look in his eye. Few Pro athletes have that desire to win that emanates out of the mann as Favre does.

I hopo for every Packer fan that Aaron Rodgers isnTt just a run of the mill QB. Many come and many go out really fast. The're few Brett Favre's and as he is he's one of a kind. Favre is unique - special.

He looks pretty good as a Jet when he was only good enough to be a back-up in Green Bay. The situation we see was set in motion by Packer management. I am not now ever going to lay it all on Ted Thompson as he doesn't have the parts to dump a Brett Favre and I believe he,s more intelligent than that as well.

How much intelligence does it take us here at Packerrats from a consortium viewpoint to know that what our team did to Brett Favre was arguably the lowest point in Green Bay Packer History.

It was far more serious than just wrong or tasteless. The price has to now be paid. Some or all you packerrats with false pride keep on blowing your smoke but the cards are as they appear and Favre is alive and well as a NY Jet. He's just getting warmed up Lady and gentleman.

The Green bay Packers may well be in deep trouble for the next decade. It's called KARMA. No man is bigger or less than KARMA. Bad things = bad Karma.

It's too bad so sad.

**Scott Campbell** · 09-29-2008, 06:21 PM