UR the Coach of GB. Make one change to improve our team NOW.

[Tony Oday]

Why not put 5 D Linemen on the line run a 5-2. Hawk on the TE and Let Barnett loose and make plays. If he cant well then we know exactlly what we have.

This is pro football, not the Big Ten - you come out with a 5-2 and NFL offenses will gash you to ribbons with speed.

It wouldn't have to be if you have a tall DE that can also drop back into coverage.

[cpk1994]

They allowed 18-19 points a game last season.... its not like they were awesome then either... what are u expecting them to do?... really?

but our offense on the other hand averages 27-28 pts per game...


and I can tell u the difference maker, but u just dont wanna hear it... right?

If they allowed 18-20 points per game THIS season we'd be 4-1. Same as we were after 5 games last year. Your argument is starting to make very little sense. You only have to win by 1 point to come away with a tally in the win column. As long as your team scores more points than your opponent, who the fuck cares how big the difference is?

my argument is the offense isnt doing as good of a job... and is it?... noooooope how cant u understand that?

We didn't have a run game at the beginning of last year either, the run game looks better to begin this year than it did to begin last year. Aaron Rodgers is 6th in the NFL in passing yards, 7th in the NFL in passing TD's, and 10th in QB rating. He has more rushing yards and TD's than Favre has had in the last 3 years combined. What has changed on offense that has prevented it from doing quite as well as last year? PENALTIES. That has been the biggest change from last year to this year. Penalties. Like I've been saying, penalties result from lack of preparation. That's McCarthy, not Thompson. How can't you understand THAT?

they didnt have a problem with 10 of the guys last season.......

Exactly Paco, now you are getting it. They didn't have that problem with those 10 guys last season, and now they do. That doesn't speak to a players talent level - they are the same players. Same talent level. If they weren't shit players last year then they aren't shit players this year. They are just playing shitty, and if it's just an issue of them playing below thier potential then that can be corrected. These are good football players Paco. It's mental mistakes that are holding them back. Correctable mental mistakes that, as you pointed out, were not typical of the same players last season. When they get that fixed you'll see.

no... they were shit last year too... we just had a QB that didnt pat the ball in the pocket trying to read one defender... he got rid of the ball, he checked outta plays that put us in bad spots... THAT IS WHAT WE ARE MISSING... Rodgers is playin great for a rookie.. he really is, but that is the complete different in this offense this season... Favre knew what the hell he was doing which covered up the crappy shit he had infront of him

Absolute troll

By now I think everybody who has ever read a single thread in here knows you and Paco don't care for each other so it would be dam cool if we can stop this nonsense. One that calls Paco a Favre troll could just as easisy call you the Anti Favre troll.

What was not BS about his statement? He claims that the whole team was shit last year except for Favre. If you don't think that is BS than you don't know what BS is.

EDIT: This has nothing to do with my hatred of Favre. This has to do with him putting FAvre above the team AGAIN, by saying it was all Favre and the rest of the team did nothing.

[Bretsky]

They allowed 18-19 points a game last season.... its not like they were awesome then either... what are u expecting them to do?... really?

but our offense on the other hand averages 27-28 pts per game...


and I can tell u the difference maker, but u just dont wanna hear it... right?

If they allowed 18-20 points per game THIS season we'd be 4-1. Same as we were after 5 games last year. Your argument is starting to make very little sense. You only have to win by 1 point to come away with a tally in the win column. As long as your team scores more points than your opponent, who the fuck cares how big the difference is?

my argument is the offense isnt doing as good of a job... and is it?... noooooope how cant u understand that?

We didn't have a run game at the beginning of last year either, the run game looks better to begin this year than it did to begin last year. Aaron Rodgers is 6th in the NFL in passing yards, 7th in the NFL in passing TD's, and 10th in QB rating. He has more rushing yards and TD's than Favre has had in the last 3 years combined. What has changed on offense that has prevented it from doing quite as well as last year? PENALTIES. That has been the biggest change from last year to this year. Penalties. Like I've been saying, penalties result from lack of preparation. That's McCarthy, not Thompson. How can't you understand THAT?

they didnt have a problem with 10 of the guys last season.......

Exactly Paco, now you are getting it. They didn't have that problem with those 10 guys last season, and now they do. That doesn't speak to a players talent level - they are the same players. Same talent level. If they weren't shit players last year then they aren't shit players this year. They are just playing shitty, and if it's just an issue of them playing below thier potential then that can be corrected. These are good football players Paco. It's mental mistakes that are holding them back. Correctable mental mistakes that, as you pointed out, were not typical of the same players last season. When they get that fixed you'll see.

no... they were shit last year too... we just had a QB that didnt pat the ball in the pocket trying to read one defender... he got rid of the ball, he checked outta plays that put us in bad spots... THAT IS WHAT WE ARE MISSING... Rodgers is playin great for a rookie.. he really is, but that is the complete different in this offense this season... Favre knew what the hell he was doing which covered up the crappy shit he had infront of him

Absolute troll

By now I think everybody who has ever read a single thread in here knows you and Paco don't care for each other so it would be dam cool if we can stop this nonsense. One that calls Paco a Favre troll could just as easisy call you the Anti Favre troll.

What was not BS about his statement? He claims that the whole team was shit last year except for Favre. If you don't think that is BS than you don't know what BS is.

EDIT: This has nothing to do with my hatred of Favre. This has to do with him putting FAvre above the team AGAIN, by saying it was all Favre and the rest of the team did nothing.

If you think I'm arguing about any content you are missing my entire point

All this troll crap gets sickening after several weeks of the same old same old spats.

You guys should just have a cage match and let all your fire out on each other there

[MJZiggy]

Can there be mud?

[Fritz]

Zig you kink mistress, you.

[Bretsky]

Can there be mud?

Mud requires boobs

[SnakeLH2006]

Honestly, I think the defensive problem is more on TT than Bob Sanders, but I wouldn't mind seeing Sanders go anyway.

TT has to start reloading that DL. That was one area Sherman left in pretty good shape and TT hasn't done much of anything to reload it with young, talented players. Maybe he'll get it done, but so far he hasn't done a good enough job in that area.

This shit blows my mind as the Packerrats Forum may melt down.

I think TT is doing pretty well thus far with player personnel decisions, yet I CANNOT believe you are saying this??? Wow. Good job bro. Glad to see you can come back to reality a bit.

Back to topic:

I really believe our D-Line is a mess as we all can agree on thus far. But unless we start giving up 40 a game, I doubt we change D-coordinators, so my original thread 1st post comes back. Go to a gap-scheme and stop the finesse shit. Power I (still do 5 wide sometimes) yet we have to control the clock as our D can't consistently do shit. Our run D is attrochious so why not establish the run more? We can pass, but teams have wisened up since last year. Iron Man Aaron is doing pretty well, but give him a chance and run the ball with 2 FB's a bit more. That's all.

[cpk1994]

If you think I'm arguing about any content you are missing my entire point

All this troll crap gets sickening after several weeks of the same old same old spats.

You guys should just have a cage match and let all your fire out on each other there

Yeah, but then I'd get arrested for assaulting a 6 year old.

[SnakeLH2006]

If you think I'm arguing about any content you are missing my entire point

All this troll crap gets sickening after several weeks of the same old same old spats.

You guys should just have a cage match and let all your fire out on each other there

Yeah, but then I'd get arrested for assaulting a 6 year old.

Yeah, but CPK you're 14 now....kind of a big man, but me and your mom are still in constant talks about how to solve your ranting. It gets tiresome, but you do amuse me and your mom. She says shut down your internet, but I don't want you interfering in "grown men activities" if you have nothing else to do around the house. Besides, she loves me though, I tell ya. And damn if can't respect a MILF with deepthroat skills yo. Just take your Ritalin and leave grown men discussions to the pros.

[cpk1994]

If you think I'm arguing about any content you are missing my entire point

All this troll crap gets sickening after several weeks of the same old same old spats.

You guys should just have a cage match and let all your fire out on each other there

Yeah, but then I'd get arrested for assaulting a 6 year old.

Yeah, but CPK you're 14 now....kind of a big man, but me and your mom are still in constant talks about how to solve your ranting. It gets tiresome, but you do amuse me and your mom. She says shut down your internet, but I don't want you interfering in "grown men activities" if you have nothing else to do around the house. Besides, she loves me though, I tell ya. And damn if can't respect a MILF with deepthroat skills yo. Just take your Ritalin and leave grown men discussions to the pros.

Ahh yes the one trick pony troll. I was wondering when you were going to finish sticking it in your Dad's ass.

[SnakeLH2006]

If you think I'm arguing about any content you are missing my entire point

All this troll crap gets sickening after several weeks of the same old same old spats.

You guys should just have a cage match and let all your fire out on each other there

Yeah, but then I'd get arrested for assaulting a 6 year old.

Yeah, but CPK you're 14 now....kind of a big man, but me and your mom are still in constant talks about how to solve your ranting. It gets tiresome, but you do amuse me and your mom. She says shut down your internet, but I don't want you interfering in "grown men activities" if you have nothing else to do around the house. Besides, she loves me though, I tell ya. And damn if can't respect a MILF with deepthroat skills yo. Just take your Ritalin and leave grown men discussions to the pros.

Ahh yes the one trick pony troll. I was wondering when you were going to finish sticking it in my Dad's ass.

Obviously if you haven't figured out as much in this thread alone. A very good Mod (albeit a funny, on the point, and fair Mod) such as Bretsky called your shitstorm with Paco. You called out the whole team M3, MM, TT, Brett....and threw them all under the bus for many months. Bretsky mispoke as he said weeks, he meant many months....as you are ripping Paco left and right...Yes he's totally Favre, but at least I respect that as he's consistent. Maybe jaded, but consistent. You take and turn every comment into yours....whether it be management, coaching, players, etc. I don't hate you, just laugh my ass off at whatever you post as it's ALWAYS negative to throw someone under the bus. You are the only one I've EVER brought up the "Mom" comments toward, only cuz you post like a 12 year old OVER AND FUCKING OVER. You never bring up good topics/posts/comebacks. Bretsky is a pretty cool dude. To call him out makes you look juvenile....thus I'm giving you cred being 14....(I think you look 10) being with your Mom so much. She's great though.

Get back on topic and so will I? So instead of hijacking this thread (and I and most will leave you alone if you can state a coherent argument wihtout the fanboyism or haterisms)...what if you were coach would you do to help our 2-3 team? Bottom line bro.

[cpk1994]

If you think I'm arguing about any content you are missing my entire point

All this troll crap gets sickening after several weeks of the same old same old spats.

You guys should just have a cage match and let all your fire out on each other there

Yeah, but then I'd get arrested for assaulting a 6 year old.

Yeah, but CPK you're 14 now....kind of a big man, but me and your mom are still in constant talks about how to solve your ranting. It gets tiresome, but you do amuse me and your mom. She says shut down your internet, but I don't want you interfering in "grown men activities" if you have nothing else to do around the house. Besides, she loves me though, I tell ya. And damn if can't respect a MILF with deepthroat skills yo. Just take your Ritalin and leave grown men discussions to the pros.

Ahh yes the one trick pony troll. I was wondering when you were going to finish sticking it in my Dad's ass.

Obviously if you haven't figured out as much in this thread alone. A very good Mod (albeit a funny, on the point, and fair Mod) such as Bretsky called your shitstorm with Paco. You called out the whole team M3, MM, TT, Brett....and threw them all under the bus for many months. Bretsky mispoke as he said weeks, he meant many months....as you are ripping Paco left and right...Yes he's totally Favre, but at least I respect that as he's consistent. Maybe jaded, but consistent. You take and turn every comment into yours....whether it be management, coaching, players, etc. I don't hate you, just laugh my ass off at whatever you post as it's ALWAYS negative to throw someone under the bus. You are the only one I've EVER brought up the "Mom" comments toward, only cuz you post like a 12 year old OVER AND FUCKING OVER. You never bring up good topics/posts/comebacks. Bretsky is a pretty cool dude. To call him out makes you look juvenile....thus I'm giving you cred being 14....(I think you look 10) being with your Mom so much. She's great though.

Get back on topic and so will I? So instead of hijacking this thread (and I and most will leave you alone if you can state a coherent argument wihtout the fanboyism or haterisms)...what if you were coach would you do to help our 2-3 team? Bottom line bro.

Boy speaking of incoherence:

1. I didn't call Bretsky out. I simply asked him to point out what of Paco's BS statment was not BS. He couldn't do it. Thats all. The rest of your statment there was pulled out of your ass.

2. Brett got thrown under the bus becuase he deserved it for his selfish bullshit unprofessional attitude.

3. I was mad at TT, MM and M3 once for initally caving to Favre. But they proved to me that they wern't about to let Favre pull his shit anymore.

4.The rest of your, ahem, post is incoherent jibberish and seeing as I don't speak 4 year old like you do, I can't comment.

[Tarlam!]

Just stop the crapola, will you? I mean ALL of you.

This is not your own personal battleground. Some of us founded this place, because the crap on other forums was too much for real fans to deal with.

Now, some of you feel it's OK to bring your personal attacks here. Well, it's NOT OK.

Talk football.

If you want to attack someone, try PMing. If you get no reply, then take that to mean nobody's interested.

Just keep it off the boards.

Talk football and all is well.

[SnakeLH2006]

If you think I'm arguing about any content you are missing my entire point as I'm a grown man. 14 dammit is right!!!

All this troll crap gets sickening after several weeks of the same old same old spats.

You guys should just have a cage match and let all your fire out on each other there

Yeah, but then I'd get arrested for assaulting a 6 year old.

Yeah, but CPK you're 14 now....kind of a big man, but me and your mom are still in constant talks about how to solve your ranting. It gets tiresome, but you do amuse me and your mom. She says shut down your internet, but I don't want you interfering in "grown men activities" if you have nothing else to do around the house. Besides, she loves me though, I tell ya. And damn if can't respect a MILF with deepthroat skills yo. Just take your Ritalin and leave grown men discussions to the pros.

Ahh yes the one trick pony troll. I was wondering when you were going to finish sticking it in my Dad's ass.

Obviously if you haven't figured out as much in this thread alone. A very good Mod (albeit a funny, on the point, and fair Mod) such as Bretsky called your shitstorm with Paco. You called out the whole team M3, MM, TT, Brett....and threw them all under the bus for many months. Bretsky mispoke as he said weeks, he meant many months....as you are ripping Paco left and right...Yes he's totally Favre, but at least I respect that as he's consistent. Maybe jaded, but consistent. You take and turn every comment into yours....whether it be management, coaching, players, etc. I don't hate you, just laugh my ass off at whatever you post as it's ALWAYS negative to throw someone under the bus. You are the only one I've EVER brought up the "Mom" comments toward, only cuz you post like a 12 year old OVER AND FUCKING OVER. You never bring up good topics/posts/comebacks. Bretsky is a pretty cool dude. To call him out makes you look juvenile....thus I'm giving you cred being 14....(I think you look 10) being with your Mom so much. She's great though.

Get back on topic and so will I? So instead of hijacking this thread (and I and most will leave you alone if you can state a coherent argument wihtout the fanboyism or haterisms)...what if you were coach would you do to help our 2-3 team? Bottom line bro.

Boy speaking of incoherence:

1. I didn't call Bretsky out as I should be the Mod as I'm always fair with my comments. I simply asked him to point out what of Paco's BS statment was not BS. He couldn't do it and he's a bitch cuz I'm not cuz I'm 12 now and can't be one as I'm the best kickball boy at recess. Thats all. The rest of your statment there was pulled out of your ass.

2. Brett got thrown under the bus becuase he deserved it for his selfish bullshit unprofessional attitude. (Wow, I couldn't even edit that classic..you are the man CPK...you might get your own BEST CPK COMMENTS THREAD soon....just damn!)

3. I was mad at TT, MM and M3 once for initally caving to Favre. But they proved to me that they wern't about to let Favre pull his shit anymore.

4.The rest of your, ahem, post is incoherent jibberish and seeing as I don't speak 4 year old like you do, I can't comment, cuz I'm a man and am sick of my mom being happy with you giving her solid dick after all thoe black dudes just pumping and leaving, at least you left me cookies on the counter so thanks man, but quit calling out my mad inconsistencies and BS when I post my childish shit.

[SnakeLH2006]

Just stop the crapola, will you? I mean ALL of you.

This is not your own personal battleground. Some of us founded this place, because the crap on other forums was too much for real fans to deal with.

Now, some of you feel it's OK to bring your personal attacks here. Well, it's NOT OK.

Talk football.

If you want to attack someone, try PMing. If you get no reply, then take that to mean nobody's interested.

Just keep it off the boards.

Talk football and all is well.

I talk football 99% of the time.....it's just the few tards like CPK that turn a good thread like this into nonsense. I'll stop, drop, and bury a MOFO as all this guy EVER does is knock good threads with negativity ALWAYS, so I can esp. in my own thread stop to to drop this punk. The shit gets real old and the Bretsky is too cool, so I can stand to see a shitty dumb punk like CPK try to protect a good guy like Bret. (Hey I'm a Mod on 3 different forums of my own...I know how it is).

But yes, back on topic, what would you do? I'm all about that gap scheme yo.