Rodgers >> Favre

[MJZiggy]

Ok, stop fighting for a second, I have a question. I will preface it by saying that this is an actual question, not a judgment, criticism, praise or anything more than a question so don't get all on the defensive. In 16 years, I've missed seeing Favre play for the Packers once (my kid did have the good manners to be born in the offseason you know). I haven't really watched more than bits and pieces of the Jets game and I have read that some suspect Favre's been hiding an injury. I was watching when Favre made that TD pass to whoever caught it, and they kept showing replays of the throw and his throwing motion didn't look the same to me. The follow through looked a little different than it always has. Yes, I know the ball went where it was supposed to--I'm not questioning the result. Did it look different to anyone else?

[Zool]

Personally, I think the term "game changer" is one of the most overused cliches in professional football.

My vote goes to "playmaker".

[MOBB DEEP]

Ok, stop fighting for a second, I have a question. I will preface it by saying that this is an actual question, not a judgment, criticism, praise or anything more than a question so don't get all on the defensive. In 16 years, I've missed seeing Favre play for the Packers once (my kid did have the good manners to be born in the offseason you know). I haven't really watched more than bits and pieces of the Jets game and I have read that some suspect Favre's been hiding an injury. I was watching when Favre made that TD pass to whoever caught it, and they kept showing replays of the throw and his throwing motion didn't look the same to me. The follow through looked a little different than it always has. Yes, I know the ball went where it was supposed to--I'm not questioning the result. Did it look different to anyone else?

SEVERAL analysts have noted that favre has been playn with a badly injured throwing shoulder. of corse he's known for playn through pain and not making excuses

NUTHN wrong with this thread or ANY OTHER football-related topic. anyone should be allowed to start pro or anti-favre threads imho; i KNOW i will.....

btw, it makes much sense that the BEST way to compare these two jokers is to compare how they play/win with the same teammates since we have the evidence. will pack be 13-3 and host nfccg...?????? game, set, match

[MJZiggy]

We need a genuflect emoticon.

Isn't that what this little guy is for?

[RashanGary]

btw, it makes much sense that the BEST way to compare these two jokers is to compare how they play/win with the same teammates since we have the evidence. will pack be 13-3 and host nfccg...?????? game, set, match

Bottom 10 defense this year. Top 10 defense last year.

Apples to oranges.

[MJZiggy]

Ok, stop fighting for a second, I have a question. I will preface it by saying that this is an actual question, not a judgment, criticism, praise or anything more than a question so don't get all on the defensive. In 16 years, I've missed seeing Favre play for the Packers once (my kid did have the good manners to be born in the offseason you know). I haven't really watched more than bits and pieces of the Jets game and I have read that some suspect Favre's been hiding an injury. I was watching when Favre made that TD pass to whoever caught it, and they kept showing replays of the throw and his throwing motion didn't look the same to me. The follow through looked a little different than it always has. Yes, I know the ball went where it was supposed to--I'm not questioning the result. Did it look different to anyone else?

SEVERAL analysts have noted that favre has been playn with a badly injured throwing shoulder. of corse he's known for playn through pain and not making excuses

NUTHN wrong with this thread or ANY OTHER football-related topic. anyone should be allowed to start pro or anti-favre threads imho; i KNOW i will.....

btw, it makes much sense that the BEST way to compare these two jokers is to compare how they play/win with the same teammates since we have the evidence. will pack be 13-3 and host nfccg...?????? game, set, match

That didn't answer my question. I already said I know of the reports of "hidden injury" (why not just come out and say he's injured like the Packers did? it's not like it makes a difference or anything) I'm asking a specific technical question about his throwing motion.

[RashanGary]

Rodgers doesn't have the right to be compared to FAvre now. Favre has had a long, great career. That it's even a conversation says a lot about Rodgers. We're lucky, as Packer fans, that we have a 24 year old player that looks kinda good, even when compared to a HOFer who had one of his best seasons ever just a year ago.


As far as TT and MM's decision, I think they made the right one on and off the field. I'm of the opinion that Favre's attitude and arrogance pushed him out the door and TT/MM just stood by their principals as well as the guy they believe in.

[MOBB DEEP]

Ok, stop fighting for a second, I have a question. I will preface it by saying that this is an actual question, not a judgment, criticism, praise or anything more than a question so don't get all on the defensive. In 16 years, I've missed seeing Favre play for the Packers once (my kid did have the good manners to be born in the offseason you know). I haven't really watched more than bits and pieces of the Jets game and I have read that some suspect Favre's been hiding an injury. I was watching when Favre made that TD pass to whoever caught it, and they kept showing replays of the throw and his throwing motion didn't look the same to me. The follow through looked a little different than it always has. Yes, I know the ball went where it was supposed to--I'm not questioning the result. Did it look different to anyone else?

SEVERAL analysts have noted that favre has been playn with a badly injured throwing shoulder. of corse he's known for playn through pain and not making excuses

NUTHN wrong with this thread or ANY OTHER football-related topic. anyone should be allowed to start pro or anti-favre threads imho; i KNOW i will.....

btw, it makes much sense that the BEST way to compare these two jokers is to compare how they play/win with the same teammates since we have the evidence. will pack be 13-3 and host nfccg...?????? game, set, match

That didn't answer my question. I already said I know of the reports of "hidden injury" (why not just come out and say he's injured like the Packers did? it's not like it makes a difference or anything) I'm asking a specific technical question about his throwing motion.

it DOES look a lil awkward to me too. esp vs Oak

[MOBB DEEP]

btw, it makes much sense that the BEST way to compare these two jokers is to compare how they play/win with the same teammates since we have the evidence. will pack be 13-3 and host nfccg...?????? game, set, match

Bottom 10 defense this year. Top 10 defense last year.

Apples to oranges.

practically same personnel with offensive weapons that hav even more experience..

apples to apples really

[RashanGary]

btw, it makes much sense that the BEST way to compare these two jokers is to compare how they play/win with the same teammates since we have the evidence. will pack be 13-3 and host nfccg...?????? game, set, match

Bottom 10 defense this year. Top 10 defense last year.

Apples to oranges.

practically same personnel with offensive weapons that hav even more experience..

apples to apples really

Bottom 10 defense vs top 10. Not close.

[Cheesehead Craig]

A-rod is what he is, a good game manager, nothing spectacular but not hopeless. If he sticks with the plan and doesn't turn it over we will be in the game at the end.
Favre is a game changer, he instills fear into opposing defensive coordinators trying to game plan against him, and his presence opens up other aspects of the offense.

Defenses plan that they need to be ready at any time for the bonehead throw and get the INT. It was well known that Favre would give the opposing defenses about 3 chances/game for an INT. If that's what you mean by game changer, then yes Favre was one.

[MOBB DEEP]

A-rod is what he is, a good game manager, nothing spectacular but not hopeless. If he sticks with the plan and doesn't turn it over we will be in the game at the end.
Favre is a game changer, he instills fear into opposing defensive coordinators trying to game plan against him, and his presence opens up other aspects of the offense.

Defenses plan that they need to be ready at any time for the bonehead throw and get the INT. It was well known that Favre would give the opposing defenses about 3 chances/game for an INT. If that's what you mean by game changer, then yes Favre was one.

ok, rodgers IS better...u happy??

[Guiness]

That didn't answer my question. I already said I know of the reports of "hidden injury" (why not just come out and say he's injured like the Packers did? it's not like it makes a difference or anything) I'm asking a specific technical question about his throwing motion.

Mmm, I've only seen highlights of him from this season (been meaning to catch a game, but I'm overseas, and getting my hands on the Pack game is enough of a chore) so I can't comment.

I'll raise another possibility though. If his throwing motion has changed, could it be because he's a little tentative not being as familiar with the system? Did his motion change when McCarthy came in and made his changes? Could it be a bit of a lack of confidence in his new LT? There could be other reasons for a changed motion.

[MJZiggy]

I don't know. It seems like he's releasing higher and it's not his normal follow-through. Or it's my imagination.

Anyone know if changing systems changes your follow-through?

[PackerTimer]

btw, it makes much sense that the BEST way to compare these two jokers is to compare how they play/win with the same teammates since we have the evidence. will pack be 13-3 and host nfccg...?????? game, set, match

Bottom 10 defense this year. Top 10 defense last year.

Apples to oranges.

practically same personnel with offensive weapons that hav even more experience..

apples to apples really

When did football become solely an offensive game?