Can Packer Rats be saved?

[The Shadow]

It's gotten worse lately, no question.
So many folks are more interested in things having little to do with the Packers.

[MadtownPacker]

Your right Shadow, it has gotten worse. As a poster who does join in a lot of football discussion can you say you have helped the situation? You have taken jabs just like many other either for one side or the other?

If posters want it to get better they need to start with themselves. Dont think Im trying to call you out specifically cuz none of us here are angels. I just dont see how to stop it without zapping accounts and then where is the line drawn? Removing a avatar turns into a civil rights issue here so locking someone out would only be worse outrage. I think it is just a reflection of the inconsiderate and ignorant world we are becoming. Hopefully someone nukes us soon so we dont have to worry about it. Until the what are we gonna do? Public hangings? Vote people off the island? You guys say what to do and that is how we will do it. I'm to the point where I really dont give damn anymore.

[red]

once a week we vote someone off the island, no matter what

just to keep everyone on their toes

[Bretsky]

I think a lack of courtesy have been consistently displayed by both sides of the argument.

I was just as irritated about the Anti Favre Group weeks ago when AROD was the greatest thing since sliced bread as I am now with the Pro Favre group who is seizing the opportunity to return the favors.


A wise man once said the greater person is the one who can let the opposition have the last word.

[falco]

I think a lack of courtesy have been consistently displayed by both sides of the argument.

I was just as irritated about the Anti Favre Group weeks ago when AROD was the greatest thing since sliced bread as I am now with the Pro Favre group who is seizing the opportunity to return the favors.


I wise man once said the greater person is the one who can let the opposition have the last word.

i will, thank you very much

[The Shadow]

Your right Shadow, it has gotten worse. As a poster who does join in a lot of football discussion can you say you have helped the situation? You have taken jabs just like many other either for one side or the other?

If posters want it to get better they need to start with themselves. Dont think Im trying to call you out specifically cuz none of us here are angels. I just dont see how to stop it without zapping accounts and then where is the line drawn? Removing a avatar turns into a civil rights issue here so locking someone out would only be worse outrage. I think it is just a reflection of the inconsiderate and ignorant world we are becoming. Hopefully someone nukes us soon so we dont have to worry about it. Until the what are we gonna do? Public hangings? Vote people off the island? You guys say what to do and that is how we will do it. I'm to the point where I really dont give damn anymore.

Well, lately whenever I'm ready to learn what the current thinking is on the team and the site comes up, it's prominently featuring two or three threads
on the same old nonsense - and that is a bit like waving a red flag in front of a bull. No doubt about it, I'm as guilty as anyone. At my advanced age, I should know better than to again stick my 2 cents in (since it's likely that anyone who visits regularly already knows what are various positions are already) but, like Michael Corleone, "just when I'm trying to get out, they suck me back in again!"
I will attempt a better job of resisting the urge to jab.
Ok?

[Deputy Nutz]

See I was wrong. It only took 8 posts before Harlan was stirring with his stick.

[mraynrand]

Did anyone notice it is getting colder each day? Good thing I have a nice thick coat.

[mraynrand]

can we ever get back to the good old days of debating whether Sherman was a bad or horrible GM?

[mraynrand]

Does anyone have a homeopathic treatment for fleas?

[Freak Out]

Does anyone have a homeopathic treatment for fleas?

For you...? I would say take a long swim in the La Brea Tar pits.

[mission]

Your right Shadow, it has gotten worse. As a poster who does join in a lot of football discussion can you say you have helped the situation? You have taken jabs just like many other either for one side or the other?

If posters want it to get better they need to start with themselves. Dont think Im trying to call you out specifically cuz none of us here are angels. I just dont see how to stop it without zapping accounts and then where is the line drawn? Removing a avatar turns into a civil rights issue here so locking someone out would only be worse outrage. I think it is just a reflection of the inconsiderate and ignorant world we are becoming. Hopefully someone nukes us soon so we dont have to worry about it. Until the what are we gonna do? Public hangings? Vote people off the island? You guys say what to do and that is how we will do it. I'm to the point where I really dont give damn anymore.

YES. WE. CAN!

[SnakeLH2006]

Wow this has to be either a drunken topic or a joke topic as winning cures all ills.

Personally I have always liked TT as GM (other than the Brett debacle which was HUGE in my mind), yet I for one (like others) did rip TT for a bit this summer for that. I for one, never glorified Brett being greater than the greater good of GB or even Arod (I like him as person and QB) for that matter.

I haven't been on in a few days, but who is praising Lord Favre over PR's purpose of the Green Bay Packers discussion site? I haven't heard it and think AR has been even better than Brett thus far (coming from a big Brett fan, but lessening in the last month) that is a big statement.

I think with time ARod will be a great QB for our team, yet it's interesting to see Brett play yet, I for one have moved on (months ago). There is more to our 4-5 start than even Brett could do to mediate. Would we be 5-4, doubtful, with the numerous injuries (poor coaching, yep I said it) and poor FA signings or lackthereof to our squad in 2008. Many have underwhelmed on both the OL and DL and that is the core issue...not our QB.

This forum is fine as I'm part of 2 others. I remember Packerrats heyday about 2 years ago and it was fucking interesting and hell entertaining to see the "insiders" Joe Arrigo and Randolph dole out these HUGE updates, rumors daily, but with the callouts and subsequent defections on D-Day (aka Joe's and Randolph's FACT of a Packer trade up for Reggie Bush and the like) that forum is non-existent with posters on a consistent basis cuz no one with a Packer mind gives a shit. At least on here (been here since the beginning) peeps even now give their thoughts without being blind sheep as opinions drive a good forum, right or wrong.

We all have our takes, but is this forum headed downhill, oh HELL NO. We just have to win. 4-5 sucks but imagine what PR would have been like in 2005 if it had been around for that 4-12 debacle. The civil war would have been over Favre/Sherman/etc. Now there is blood....let that be a history lesson. Go Pack. Winning cures all ailments in Packerland.

[cpk1994]

PR is just fine.

I don't understand how anyone could think there would NOT be Favre talk this season, being his first season not with the Packers. Even if he had stayed retired there would have been talk and comparisons....it's just what happens when a player like Favre hands off the torch to a new QB. I'd be surprised if you could find a Packer forum out there that's not experiencing the same thing. However, I do wish posters would be more respectful, and not slobber all over the situation, so to speak. (from either point of view)

qft

i wonder what will happen if brett has bad game on thursday. will people start threads about how great a decison tt and the gang made regarding lord favre.....? its not like the die-hard favre fans out-number the tt apologists.

i recall several posters coming into the brett/jet thread bashing him (personally i can take the ribbing/rubbing in face b/c favre's not my blood kin). but now that the packs struggling theyre no where to be found. i dont see anything wrong with banter; folks just shouldnt be rude, name call or take this place too seriously imo

its the only game on so i imagine more folk around here will be tuning in and hopefully cheering for our qb from jan 08

This is quite ironic of you. The only ones making thread or bumping old ones is you, Paco, and Gex. I haven't seen any Favre threads saying TT was right, True, the Favre bashers go into the Favre thread, but thats becuase that is what that thread is for, Brett talk. They actually keep it there, you and your two boys don't.

[Fritz]

It's the analysis I crave, and the ability to share a forum with fellow Packer fans. Living here in Detroit, I don't get to make that connection often. So Packerrats has been a boon for me.

However, I am like others tired of the bashing. For me, it's not even so much the pro/anti-Favre threads or the pro/anti-TT threads - it's the devolving into posters attacking each other like junior high schoolers. I think there are legitimate discussions to be had on both topics - and in fact I, who am a huge TT supporter, have been wondering lately if TT's seeming inability to put together a cohesive, effective offensive line will be the downfall of his tenure.

So I don't mind debating those topics. But let's debate the topics, and stop with the name calling.

As Rodney King so famously said, "Can't we all just get along?"

So what the hell is wrong with this offensive line? And why can't the defense stop the run?