Fire Mike McCarthy

[GrnBay007]

Re: Fire Mike McCarthy

What exactly is a "GB click"? Are you referring to special treatment for some players, or something to do with the city itself?

Nope, had nothing to do with the team. Just that MM was/is big time involved with a circle of friends that evolved due to his marriage. The comments made were that they had not seen a GB coach get so involved in a local group/click before. It may mean nothing at all.

Even the best of guys get dragged down by the evil chicks

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Well, in all honesty it probably was not a good decision. He married someone that has children with someone with big time GB ties...and had a child with her. Coaches move around a lot in the NFL. So what will happen if MM has to move to a new city to hang on to his career? She will have to decide between her children with daddy #1 or her marriage and daddy #2. Daddy #1 ain't letting his kids move away....no way.

[superfan]

Re: Fire Mike McCarthy

Nope, had nothing to do with the team. Just that MM was/is big time involved with a circle of friends that evolved due to his marriage. The comments made were that they had not seen a GB coach get so involved in a local group/click before. It may mean nothing at all.

It's all clear now, he is in the same knitting club as TT.

Thanks for the clarification.

[GrnBay007]

Re: Fire Mike McCarthy

Nope, had nothing to do with the team. Just that MM was/is big time involved with a circle of friends that evolved due to his marriage. The comments made were that they had not seen a GB coach get so involved in a local group/click before. It may mean nothing at all.

It's all clear now, he is in the same knitting club as TT.

Thanks for the clarification.

No, MM's not into that younger crowd. :P

[cpk1994]

37 yards is a chip shot FG for Crosby 99% of the time. You don't pass when you have the opportunity to give the other team the ball down 3 with 20 seconds left.

That's exactly my point. MM does exactly what he is supposed to do and it gets you no where. A few weeks ago the Colts were in a 4th and 1 situation and did they run? NO! They play actioned for 30 yards and kicked a game winning field goal. MM should have play actioned on 3rd down but he is a chicken shit pussy. Where did playing by the books get him? A loss.

But if McCarthy called a play action and missed, you would be bitching to high heaven that he didn't run the ball. Works both ways.

[SkinBasket]

Calling for the head of McCarthy one year removed from 13-3 when it's the defense that's failed this team time and time again makes no sense. You give him a new defensive staff, of his choosing this time, and two years.

A lesser coach would have lost this team weeks ago, but the entire team is playing just as hard as they were in the first month of the season.

I also think it's foolish to pick one or two plays out of the entire game as examples of how bad McCarthy's play calling is while ignoring the rest of the game, which went reasonably well (325 yds, 2 passing TDs, 2/2 on 4th down, 8/17 on 3rd, +8 min TOP) considering the weather. Some of you fellas have been playing Madden a bit too much I think and actually believe you're great head coaches.

[RashanGary]

Calling for the head of McCarthy one year removed from 13-3 when it's the defense that's failed this team time and time again makes no sense. You give him a new defensive staff, of his choosing this time, and two years.

A lesser coach would have lost this team weeks ago, but the entire team is playing just as hard as they were in the first month of the season.

I also think it's foolish to pick one or two plays out of the entire game as examples of how bad McCarthy's play calling is while ignoring the rest of the game, which went reasonably well (325 yds, 2 passing TDs, 2/2 on 4th down, 8/17 on 3rd, +8 min TOP) considering the weather. Some of you fellas have been playing Madden a bit too much I think and actually believe you're great head coaches.

Good post. However, I do think he takes it out of Rodgers hands at the biggest moments and gets predictable when the game is tight. Overall, he's a damn good playcaller but he's been playing conservatively at the end of games. He's been playing like he can rely on the running game and defense to cement wins. If we actually had one or both of those things he'd be racking up wins. It's probably the smartest way to call the game if you have a good, tough team. The problem is, the only really good unit we have is the offense and it's lead by the passing attack. It's not tough, championship football but it's the only way we're going to get a couple wins right now and he goes away from it when it's time to finish.

[Pugger]

I had no problem with MM using up the clock and have Crosby kick a potential game winning FG and leave 20 seconds on the clock for Chicago to play with. Unfortunately the bares illegally bull rushed our long snapper and got penatration and blocked it. Check this thread for a photo of the blocked FG attempt:

http://packersnews.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2815

[SkinBasket]

Calling for the head of McCarthy one year removed from 13-3 when it's the defense that's failed this team time and time again makes no sense. You give him a new defensive staff, of his choosing this time, and two years.

A lesser coach would have lost this team weeks ago, but the entire team is playing just as hard as they were in the first month of the season.

I also think it's foolish to pick one or two plays out of the entire game as examples of how bad McCarthy's play calling is while ignoring the rest of the game, which went reasonably well (325 yds, 2 passing TDs, 2/2 on 4th down, 8/17 on 3rd, +8 min TOP) considering the weather. Some of you fellas have been playing Madden a bit too much I think and actually believe you're great head coaches.

Good post. However, I do think he takes it out of Rodgers hands at the biggest moments and gets predictable when the game is tight. Overall, he's a damn good playcaller but he's been playing conservatively at the end of games. He's been playing like he can rely on the running game and defense to cement wins. If we actually had one or both of those things he'd be racking up wins. It's probably the smartest way to call the game if you have a good, tough team. The problem is, the only really good unit we have is the offense and it's lead by the passing attack. It's not tough, championship football but it's the only way we're going to get a couple wins right now and he goes away from it when it's time to finish.

By the same token, if he moves away from what you see as a conservative approach, we become just as predictable - just in a different way. McCarthy's coached this team into the position to win in almost every game and oftentimes, the Packers have looked like the better team in these close loses. We simply find a way to fail at key moments in very specific (though varied) facets of games - most of the time on the defensive side and ST, which has been really quite frustrating. Weather it's allowing the big return in the last 5 minutes, causing but not recovering 3 or 4 fumbles, penalties, blocked kicks, or questionable officiating to our detriment, it seems this team picks one thing to suck at at critical times and in just enough portion to lose the game.

I simply don't see a system wide failure that calls for the elimination of a coach that went 13-3 last year and has at least put the team in the position to win almost every game this season save these pretty specific failures. Look around the league. Finding capable coaches and GMs is not as easy as just picking one out and slapping a headset on them. If we want to look like Detroit or KC or SF, then maybe we should start cycling through coaches and GMs. Or we could accept this season's been at least a little fucked up, acknowledge that every franchise is going to have a down year here and there, and hope the team addresses the much more specific problems this team has - which in my opinion means a new defensive staff, maybe a new ST coach, and the immediate release of one Mr. Jarrett Lee Bush.

[Ballboy]

I think MM had this plan before the season started. He is NOT going to put Rodgers in a situation to fail given that it is his first year as NFL QB. That is why this whole mess with Rogers being 0-8 in close games means nothing, simply because MM isn't giving him the opportunity to do anything.

MM must think that this is building Rogers confidence....not sure how when he isn't winning games, but he is playing good....even well at times.

[imscott72]

Re: Fire Mike McCarthy

What exactly is a "GB click"? Are you referring to special treatment for some players, or something to do with the city itself?

Nope, had nothing to do with the team. Just that MM was/is big time involved with a circle of friends that evolved due to his marriage. The comments made were that they had not seen a GB coach get so involved in a local group/click before. It may mean nothing at all.

Even the best of guys get dragged down by the evil chicks

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Well, in all honesty it probably was not a good decision. He married someone that has children with someone with big time GB ties...and had a child with her. Coaches move around a lot in the NFL. So what will happen if MM has to move to a new city to hang on to his career? She will have to decide between her children with daddy #1 or her marriage and daddy #2. Daddy #1 ain't letting his kids move away....no way.

I'm not sure what this has to do with MM coaching the team. Coaches do have lives outside of football. Totally irrelevant imo..

[Bossman641]

I had no problem with MM using up the clock and have Crosby kick a potential game winning FG and leave 20 seconds on the clock for Chicago to play with. Unfortunately the bares illegally bull rushed our long snapper and got penatration and blocked it. Check this thread for a photo of the blocked FG attempt:

http://packersnews.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2815

You know I wondered about this as well. Plus, on the first missed FG attempt it looked like Urlacher jumped off the back of one of the DL in front of him. I distinctly remember getting called for that shit last year.

[Pugger]

I did a little digging and I found this in an article on the NY times site. Check the rule about half way down the page:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/30/sports/football/30nfl.html?_r=1