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  • #76
    Originally posted by Pugger View Post
    I remember being excited about seeing Rodgers sitting there in NY on draft day when our pick came up. I couldn't believe our good fortune! I wonder how may GMs that passed on AR that day are kicking themselves now?

    mmmdk, is that a photo of AR or Dickey in your avatar?
    My wife looked at me like an idiot when I started yelling at the computer in joy. She came running up, "what happened what happened" when i told her she just said 'oh'. Sigh...
    All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

    George Orwell

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    • #77
      Originally posted by vince View Post
      That's correct. And look at the list of other guys who have gone almost as long without a 4th Q comeback!

      http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com...A_Winning.html
      So what you are saying is this is a list of quarterbacks who could not win close games and could not mount a comeback. Stupid hall voters.
      All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

      George Orwell

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      • #78
        Vince, that is an awesome post. I am not bashing BF, but I think we in Packerland became too accustomed to equating QB brilliance with last-second heroics.

        There's a lot to be said for a guy who takes care of his business so well that there's not much to do in the final 2 minutes besides taking a knee.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Noodle View Post
          Vince, that is an awesome post. I am not bashing BF, but I think we in Packerland became too accustomed to equating QB brilliance with last-second heroics.

          There's a lot to be said for a guy who takes care of his business so well that there's not much to do in the final 2 minutes besides taking a knee.
          What is amazing about that is how it differs from Favre's earlier career path. When he was young and Holmgren was still coach, Favre had relatively few 4th Quarter comebacks compared to many other QBs. It was the one stat area, outside of INTs that he didn't seem to top in those heady days. As the team's defense got worse, he started to pick them up.

          And by playing so long, his totals are high. But it was not the signature of his early or mid-career. Someone, maybe pro football reference, put together a list of comeback rates, to at least even out the totals from number of games played. Favre was not in the top tier, though I suspect he is well ahead of Rodgers in this are. But as we know, this stat is not indicative of great teams, necessarily.
          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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          • #80
            I don't disagree, PB, but you have to agree that the indelible first impression of Favre (though not his first Packer appearance) was his amazing relief of Majik Man against Cincy and winning the game with less than 2 minutes to play.

            So I think there did grow up here a belief that unless you could do it with the clock ticking down, you just weren't all that. I think the list that Vince posted suggests that there is more than one way to be great.

            And my high blood pressure really appreciates the Pack's current style of winning!

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