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  • the one thing i would add about the dt vs. de debate is that we have jenkins

    if we draft a DT, then jenkins probably sticks at DE full time, or close to full time. jenkins gets almost no rush off the end

    however, if you drafted a DE, the jenkins could play DE on the running plays like he's been doing, while the young guy matures, and then move into the middle on passing plays. jenkins IS a better inside rusher. then you pretty much improve 2 positions by drafting one

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    • Originally posted by red
      the one thing i would add about the dt vs. de debate is that we have jenkins

      if we draft a DT, then jenkins probably sticks at DE full time, or close to full time. jenkins gets almost no rush off the end

      however, if you drafted a DE, the jenkins could play DE on the running plays like he's been doing, while the young guy matures, and then move into the middle on passing plays. jenkins IS a better inside rusher. then you pretty much improve 2 positions by drafting one
      But can Jenkins stay healthy? Your theory is sound but it hinges on an unreliable player. If we had to draft a first round DE then I guess i'd have to side with Orakapo, but I see more sure-fire picks out there.
      "I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious." - Vince Lombardi

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      • Originally posted by Fritz
        Originally posted by packrulz
        Originally posted by JustinHarrell
        Everette Brown is still my guy (whether we run 4-3 or 3-4). He's just a great pass rusher.
        Scout.com has them taking Brown, new update: http://profootball.scout.com/2/825813.html
        Are you frickin' out of your mind?? A Florida State defensive lineman?
        Truer words have never been spoken. The fact that the scouting staff here wasn't able to determine that Jamal Reynolds should not have been drafted in the top 10 gives me little confidence in the scouting staff making the determination as to whether Everette Brown belongs in the top 10.

        Personally, I'm hoping Oakland takes him.
        </delurk>

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        • Originally posted by Fritz
          Originally posted by packrulz
          Originally posted by JustinHarrell
          Everette Brown is still my guy (whether we run 4-3 or 3-4). He's just a great pass rusher.
          Scout.com has them taking Brown, new update: http://profootball.scout.com/2/825813.html
          Are you frickin' out of your mind?? A Florida State defensive lineman?
          Not only that, but a Florida Satate Defensive Linemen that was dominated by an average Badgers team that ran their offense directly at him? Liability. If the Packers draft him, I will be writing a letter demanding the head of the GM. That would be the silliest of silly picks. I'll take him on day 2, but some other chump will take him in round 1.

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          • if we draft an FSU Dlineman I promise to quit this site (Ill come back if/when he gets 10+ sacks) ...

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            • Right now, I'm liking Curry, Mays, Maualuga, McCoy, and Raji. I'm pretty much down on all of the DEs.
              "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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              • Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                Right now, I'm liking Curry, Mays, Maualuga, McCoy, and Raji. I'm pretty much down on all of the DEs.
                Curry -- yes if available
                Mays -- yes if available
                Maualuga -- too high at #9
                McCoy-- yes if available
                Raji -- which player are your referring to?
                DEs -- look like Tarzan play like Jane

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                • Originally posted by rbaloha
                  Raji -- which player are your referring to?
                  B.J. Raji, short fireplug DT from Boston College, could play NT in the 3-4. Strong, nasty, tough, stout on the run, has a quick first step and can collapse the pocket, very athletic for a guy his size and build. Has some questions about intelligence, maturity, and conditioning (though most 330 lb men have questions about conditioning), but he was really motivated and played very well this year. With a good DL coach, he could be great.

                  Not that Notre Dame was any good on offense this year, but this play is one of my favorite plays made by a college DT in recent memory.
                  </delurk>

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                  • Originally posted by Lurker64
                    Originally posted by rbaloha
                    Raji -- which player are your referring to?
                    B.J. Raji, short fireplug DT from Boston College, could play NT in the 3-4. Strong, nasty, tough, stout on the run, has a quick first step and can collapse the pocket, very athletic for a guy his size and build. Has some questions about intelligence, maturity, and conditioning (though most 330 lb men have questions about conditioning), but he was really motivated and played very well this year. With a good DL coach, he could be great.

                    Not that Notre Dame was any good on offense this year, but this play is one of my favorite plays made by a college DT in recent memory.
                    Second day pick.

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                    • Originally posted by rbaloha
                      Second day pick.
                      Raji has a first round grade. He probably doesn't have a top 10 grade, but no way he even gets to the second with the weak class of DTs this year. He's absolutely the best Sr. DT this year.

                      Depending on whether Cody and/or McCody come out, Raji will be the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd DT off the board.
                      </delurk>

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                      • Originally posted by Lurker64
                        Originally posted by rbaloha
                        Raji -- which player are your referring to?
                        B.J. Raji, short fireplug DT from Boston College, could play NT in the 3-4. Strong, nasty, tough, stout on the run, has a quick first step and can collapse the pocket, very athletic for a guy his size and build. Has some questions about intelligence, maturity, and conditioning (though most 330 lb men have questions about conditioning), but he was really motivated and played very well this year. With a good DL coach, he could be great.

                        Not that Notre Dame was any good on offense this year, but this play is one of my favorite plays made by a college DT in recent memory.
                        Talk about putting the shoulder down and plowing ahead...
                        C.H.U.D.

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                        • Most mocks have Raji going 20-25. I suspect he'll go earlier than that because he is the best of the 300 lb+ DT's, pending Cody's decision. Taking him at #9 might be a reach though.
                          I can't run no more
                          With that lawless crowd
                          While the killers in high places
                          Say their prayers out loud
                          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                          A thundercloud
                          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                          • Originally posted by rbaloha
                            Originally posted by Lurker64
                            Originally posted by rbaloha
                            Raji -- which player are your referring to?
                            B.J. Raji, short fireplug DT from Boston College, could play NT in the 3-4. Strong, nasty, tough, stout on the run, has a quick first step and can collapse the pocket, very athletic for a guy his size and build. Has some questions about intelligence, maturity, and conditioning (though most 330 lb men have questions about conditioning), but he was really motivated and played very well this year. With a good DL coach, he could be great.

                            Not that Notre Dame was any good on offense this year, but this play is one of my favorite plays made by a college DT in recent memory.
                            Second day pick.
                            You must not have watched the bowl game huh?

                            Second day pick? As in Round 3+??? ... All-time NFL draft steal if that happens ...

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                            • raji will not last to the second day, we would have god smiling on us if he somehow fell to us in the second

                              almost all mocks have him going somewhere in the first, and that was before his bowl game

                              he looked very dominate in it

                              right now i'm guessing he'll go 10-20

                              whats with curry? what makes him special? i've never seen him play

                              what makes him different then say a hawk type of LB?

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                              • Originally posted by red
                                raji will not last to the second day, we would have god smiling on us if he somehow fell to us in the second

                                almost all mocks have him going somewhere in the first, and that was before his bowl game

                                he looked very dominate in it

                                right now i'm guessing he'll go 10-20

                                whats with curry? what makes him special? i've never seen him play

                                what makes him different then say a hawk type of LB?
                                +1

                                Ive honestly heard nothing about him besides being a top 15 pick ...

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