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  • The more I learn about this draft, the more I'm thinking OT could be the pick. I like Eugene Monroe best, but from what I read, all of the guys below have a chance to be selected before or around our draft pick.


    Eugene Monroe would be ideal in my opinion. He's big and strong but not immobile. He's very consistent, reliable and nasty. He would be perfect for our team.

    Andre Smith is a brute. We like to run zone runs, but man, this guy is talented and we do run a lot of power runs too. We could easily just make the percentage of zones go down if the personnel changes. McCarthy seems flexible and Sitton sure isn't a prototype zone blocker. I don't think we're stuck on one scheme. Every time you hear MM, he tells McGinn that it's just false that we run majority zone runs. He says we're a flexible pro offense that adjusts to situations and players. Zone is one part of it if you ask McCarthy.

    Jason Smith looks like a safe player but maybe not one with huge upside. Reminds me of D'brickshaw Ferguson. He's said to be an impressive pass protector and while he's not a road grader, he's said to be very reliable about sustaining blocks to the whistle and really doing his job consistently. He'd also be a perfect fit for a team that likes to run a good number of zone runs. If we drafted him, I could see us running a few more zone runs.

    Michael Oher is a special talent from what I read. He's got some inconsistencies, but is a 4 year starter with a lot of high level competition and no injury history. He's said to be an absolute brute and maybe the most talented physical specimen in the last couple years (according to nfldraftcountdown). If you think he's a stud, he'd be a great player to pick and give one year behind Clifton learning the ropes.
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    • The question is, Does TT believe he has Clifton's eventual replacement on the roster right now? (Colledge or Barbre). If not, I think there;s a strong possibility he goes OT with the #9 pick. He may not have this good an opportunity to draft a LT again.
      I can't run no more
      With that lawless crowd
      While the killers in high places
      Say their prayers out loud
      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
      A thundercloud
      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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      • Originally posted by JustinHarrell
        Jason Smith... he's said to be very reliable about sustaining blocks to the whistle and really doing his job consistently. He'd also be a perfect fit for a team that likes to run a good number of zone runs. If we drafted him, I could see us running a few more zone runs.
        It also sounds like he'd be a perfect fit on an OL plagued by inconsistencies.

        Originally posted by JustinHarrell
        Michael Oher... If you think he's a stud, he'd be a great player to pick and give one year behind Clifton learning the ropes.
        I'm intrigued by Oher as a RT. And prevailing wisdom be damned, I wouldn't be opposed to spending a high pick on a RT if he's a guy that can blast people off the line down after down. And if you're one of those people that's all about filling an immediate need, we could probably get another year out of Clifton, whereas Tauscher is probably done.

        That said, it doesn't sound like he's a fit for the system from what I've read about him. I'd be surprised if the Packers took him.

        J. Smith and Monroe seem the most likely.
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        • Oh man, a lineman that consistently "blasts" people off the line is exactly what this team needs.

          Who knows what TT and company think about these guys but there sure are a lot of highly rated tackle prospects. If I had to guess what position we're going to draft right now I have to say, based on the number of tackle prospects along with our immediate and long term need at the position, I would put my money on offensive tackle if I had to bet on a position we were drafting.
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          • This guy has 10 scenarios of the first 10 picks, which do sound plausible, but was produced before McCoy, Tebow, & others declared: http://thefootballexpert.com/10top10draftscenarios.html
            He has the Pack taking Orakpo 3 times, Jenkins 2 times, Michael Johnson 2 times, Eugene Monroe 1 time, Vontae Davis 1 time, and RB Knowshon Moreno (interesting), 1 time. I'm becoming more of an Orakpo fan, he is highly rated and has a history of production. Another name that has been coming up on some mocks is Tyson Jackson DE, LSU, he sounds like a TT pick because he can play either DT or DE. http://www.walterfootball.com/pro2008tjackson.php
            Thanks Ted!

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            • Originally posted by JustinHarrell

              Andre Smith is a brute. We like to run zone runs, but man, this guy is talented and we do run a lot of power runs too. We could easily just make the percentage of zones go down if the personnel changes. McCarthy seems flexible and Sitton sure isn't a prototype zone blocker. I don't think we're stuck on one scheme.
              Michael Oher is a special talent from what I read. He's got some inconsistencies, but is a 4 year starter with a lot of high level competition and no injury history. He's said to be an absolute brute and maybe the most talented physical specimen in the last couple years (according to nfldraftcountdown). If you think he's a stud, he'd be a great player to pick and give one year behind Clifton learning the ropes.
              Andre Smith will absolutely not be available at #9. Sitton was actually drafted since UCF ran the zone blocking scheme with great success. Sitton and Barbre both flashed the ability to reach the second level and not overwhelmed.

              Agreed a left tackle should be considered. Maybe Oher is the guy. As we all know, lt are highly coveted.

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              • Originally posted by packrulz
                This guy has 10 scenarios of the first 10 picks, which do sound plausible, but was produced before McCoy, Tebow, & others declared: http://thefootballexpert.com/10top10draftscenarios.html
                He has the Pack taking Orakpo 3 times, Jenkins 2 times, Michael Johnson 2 times, Eugene Monroe 1 time, Vontae Davis 1 time, and RB Knowshon Moreno (interesting), 1 time. I'm becoming more of an Orakpo fan, he is highly rated and has a history of production. Another name that has been coming up on some mocks is Tyson Jackson DE, LSU, he sounds like a TT pick because he can play either DT or DE. http://www.walterfootball.com/pro2008tjackson.php
                I shall be very disappointed if Orakpo is selected. Jackson is intriguing but work ethic appears questionable.

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                • I've seen a mock with us taking B.J. Raji, and thought "no way in hell he's worth a 9".... after watching some you tube stuff on him; I can see why he would be this high. He has some great moves and is just a fricken BULL! He's a moving wall. If we could move down a few spots and take' em; even better!

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                  • Well, remember that it's really early. There are guys not in the first round now that may end up top 10 picks (e.g. Vernon Davis) and there are "top ten locks" now that may not be drafted in the first round at all (e.g. Chad Jackson).
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                    • Wow, ESPN's reporting DT McCoy is heading back to school.

                      To me that's insane. He'd probably fo top 5 and be set for life. He better take out a big assed insurance policy.

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                      • Originally posted by Rastak
                        Wow, ESPN's reporting DT McCoy is heading back to school.

                        To me that's insane. He'd probably fo top 5 and be set for life. He better take out a big assed insurance policy.
                        Damn Damn Damn, I loved McCoy, and he was really the only D-lineman I felt was valued at our pick. That being said, maybe he got some unfavorable news from the NFL draft commitee. His statement makes it sound as if they told him he needed another year to assure a top 8-10 selection. I'm no Oklahoma fan but I think he's only had one solid year of starting experience.
                        "I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious." - Vince Lombardi

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                        • Originally posted by POLISHHAWK
                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM3AmHWAGEg&feature=related

                          I've seen a mock with us taking B.J. Raji, and thought "no way in hell he's worth a 9".... after watching some you tube stuff on him; I can see why he would be this high. He has some great moves and is just a fricken BULL! He's a moving wall. If we could move down a few spots and take' em; even better!
                          That spin move looked great. Otherwise, I'm no defensive line coach, but it appeared to me that Raji pretty much stood up right away on just about every one of these plays and then just overpowered the clearly lesser collegiate opponent. And those were his highlights. I don't think he will be effective vs. the men of the NFL until he changes that habit and gets his pad level lower for better leverage. He is a big dude though.

                          He was academically ineligible last year, which could be a red flag.

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                          • Originally posted by vince
                            Originally posted by POLISHHAWK
                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM3AmHWAGEg&feature=related

                            I've seen a mock with us taking B.J. Raji, and thought "no way in hell he's worth a 9".... after watching some you tube stuff on him; I can see why he would be this high. He has some great moves and is just a fricken BULL! He's a moving wall. If we could move down a few spots and take' em; even better!
                            That spin move looked great. Otherwise, I'm no defensive line coach, but it appeared to me that Raji pretty much stood up right away on just about every one of these plays and then just overpowered the clearly lesser collegiate opponent. And those were his highlights. I don't think he will be effective vs. the men of the NFL until he changes that habit and gets his pad level lower for better leverage. He is a big dude though.

                            He was academically ineligible last year, which could be a red flag.
                            That spin move on the sack was UNREAL! Like a DE at DT ... super quick, or I'd agree with you. He was obviously overpowering that guard but seriously, his quickness for such a big guy is rare. I'd be fine with him, or even moving down a couple spots if he was assured.

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                            • Originally posted by TennesseePackerBacker
                              Originally posted by Rastak
                              Wow, ESPN's reporting DT McCoy is heading back to school.

                              To me that's insane. He'd probably fo top 5 and be set for life. He better take out a big assed insurance policy.
                              Damn Damn Damn, I loved McCoy, and he was really the only D-lineman I felt was valued at our pick. That being said, maybe he got some unfavorable news from the NFL draft commitee. His statement makes it sound as if they told him he needed another year to assure a top 8-10 selection. I'm no Oklahoma fan but I think he's only had one solid year of starting experience.
                              Bad news. Taylor Mays is the pick.

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                              • Originally posted by rbaloha
                                Originally posted by TennesseePackerBacker
                                Originally posted by Rastak
                                Wow, ESPN's reporting DT McCoy is heading back to school.

                                To me that's insane. He'd probably fo top 5 and be set for life. He better take out a big assed insurance policy.
                                Damn Damn Damn, I loved McCoy, and he was really the only D-lineman I felt was valued at our pick. That being said, maybe he got some unfavorable news from the NFL draft commitee. His statement makes it sound as if they told him he needed another year to assure a top 8-10 selection. I'm no Oklahoma fan but I think he's only had one solid year of starting experience.
                                Bad news. Taylor Mays is the pick.
                                Has he even declared yet?

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