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    I just hope with all the heat on Teddy, he pays attention to the most logical and time proven statement known to man which is "those who fail to understand and learn from history are doomed to repeat it".

    In the NFL, it's a philosophy to live by. Any defense that can generate pressure with their front four is going to win a lot of games. Run the ball and stop the run. Thompson has failed on both counts. 4 years to get an offensive line and we're still not settled there. Our porous run D was exposed in the NFC Tittle game and NOTHING was done to correct it.

    This draft will have a huge effect on determining our future. We have a ton of holes on this team. D-line, LB, saftey and O-line. There will be NO EXCUSE at #9 not to draft an immediate impact player at one of these positions. We can't have another Harrell type blunder. Had he taken Reggie Nelson and not the injury riddled guy he took, saftey would now be a position of HUGE strength. You just can't afford to miss on an important pick because it sets off a chain reaction.

    Until we know who the new DC will be, it's impossible to make a choice as to who our pick should be. Drafting LB's high up is a no-no (see AJ Hawk). The reason for this is pretty simple. Most of the hyped LB's play on teams with good D lines, therefore allowing them to make plays. Hawk at OS is the perfect example. Find me a solid LB from a school where he had to take on blockers and STILL make plays and I'll show you a good NFL LB. You can find these type players in the second and third rds.

    May-be it's time for the old Mike Sherman draft move. Take a DL with your first 3 picks and hope to God you hit one out of 3. As I recall, Sherman did that with the CB position years ago.

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    • Originally posted by packrulz
      Walterfootball has the Packers taking Jenkins at 9, I'd be thrilled. I was disturbed to read that Harris told someone he might not be back next year, I wonder where that is coming from.

      9. Green Bay Packers: Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State
      Green Bay has major problems in its secondary
      Walter needs to learn more about the teams before posting. Walter obviously doesn't know where the major problems lie with the Packers defense. I'm a Jenkins fan though. I wouldn't be heartbroken if Jenkins is the pick, but only if we shore up our front 7 in FA.
      "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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      • Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
        Originally posted by packrulz
        Walterfootball has the Packers taking Jenkins at 9, I'd be thrilled. I was disturbed to read that Harris told someone he might not be back next year, I wonder where that is coming from.

        9. Green Bay Packers: Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State
        Green Bay has major problems in its secondary
        Walter needs to learn more about the teams before posting. Walter obviously doesn't know where the major problems lie with the Packers defense. I'm a Jenkins fan though. I wouldn't be heartbroken if Jenkins is the pick, but only if we shore up our front 7 in FA.
        I think he's referring to Harris leaving, (maybe because M3 fired Washington?), and the safeties were banged up all year, if they move Woodson to safety, who will be left to play CB? Tramon Williams played ok, Lee didn't show much yet, Jenkins might be the best DB in the draft. DL doesn't impress me at #9 overall.
        Thanks Ted!

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        • Re: Draft

          Originally posted by Packnut
          I just hope with all the heat on Teddy, he pays attention to the most logical and time proven statement known to man which is "those who fail to understand and learn from history are doomed to repeat it".

          In the NFL, it's a philosophy to live by. Any defense that can generate pressure with their front four is going to win a lot of games. Run the ball and stop the run. Thompson has failed on both counts. 4 years to get an offensive line and we're still not settled there. Our porous run D was exposed in the NFC Tittle game and NOTHING was done to correct it.

          This draft will have a huge effect on determining our future. We have a ton of holes on this team. D-line, LB, saftey and O-line. There will be NO EXCUSE at #9 not to draft an immediate impact player at one of these positions. We can't have another Harrell type blunder. Had he taken Reggie Nelson and not the injury riddled guy he took, saftey would now be a position of HUGE strength. You just can't afford to miss on an important pick because it sets off a chain reaction.

          Until we know who the new DC will be, it's impossible to make a choice as to who our pick should be. Drafting LB's high up is a no-no (see AJ Hawk). The reason for this is pretty simple. Most of the hyped LB's play on teams with good D lines, therefore allowing them to make plays. Hawk at OS is the perfect example. Find me a solid LB from a school where he had to take on blockers and STILL make plays and I'll show you a good NFL LB. You can find these type players in the second and third rds.

          May-be it's time for the old Mike Sherman draft move. Take a DL with your first 3 picks and hope to God you hit one out of 3. As I recall, Sherman did that with the CB position years ago.
          That was actually Ron Wolf who did that. He took Antoine/Antwan Edwards, Fred something or other, and then Mike Mckenzie. Only Mckenzie worked out, though Fred what's his name was traded to Seattle for some running back named Ahman Green.
          "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

          KYPack

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          • Re: Draft

            Originally posted by Fritz
            Originally posted by Packnut
            I just hope with all the heat on Teddy, he pays attention to the most logical and time proven statement known to man which is "those who fail to understand and learn from history are doomed to repeat it".

            In the NFL, it's a philosophy to live by. Any defense that can generate pressure with their front four is going to win a lot of games. Run the ball and stop the run. Thompson has failed on both counts. 4 years to get an offensive line and we're still not settled there. Our porous run D was exposed in the NFC Tittle game and NOTHING was done to correct it.

            This draft will have a huge effect on determining our future. We have a ton of holes on this team. D-line, LB, saftey and O-line. There will be NO EXCUSE at #9 not to draft an immediate impact player at one of these positions. We can't have another Harrell type blunder. Had he taken Reggie Nelson and not the injury riddled guy he took, saftey would now be a position of HUGE strength. You just can't afford to miss on an important pick because it sets off a chain reaction.

            Until we know who the new DC will be, it's impossible to make a choice as to who our pick should be. Drafting LB's high up is a no-no (see AJ Hawk). The reason for this is pretty simple. Most of the hyped LB's play on teams with good D lines, therefore allowing them to make plays. Hawk at OS is the perfect example. Find me a solid LB from a school where he had to take on blockers and STILL make plays and I'll show you a good NFL LB. You can find these type players in the second and third rds.

            May-be it's time for the old Mike Sherman draft move. Take a DL with your first 3 picks and hope to God you hit one out of 3. As I recall, Sherman did that with the CB position years ago.
            That was actually Ron Wolf who did that. He took Antoine/Antwan Edwards, Fred something or other, and then Mike Mckenzie. Only Mckenzie worked out, though Fred what's his name was traded to Seattle for some running back named Ahman Green.
            Vinson, pretty good trade.
            Thanks Ted!

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            • Or is he referring to the Ahmoey Carroway experiment?
              "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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              • Originally posted by packrulz
                Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                Originally posted by packrulz
                Walterfootball has the Packers taking Jenkins at 9, I'd be thrilled. I was disturbed to read that Harris told someone he might not be back next year, I wonder where that is coming from.

                9. Green Bay Packers: Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State
                Green Bay has major problems in its secondary
                Walter needs to learn more about the teams before posting. Walter obviously doesn't know where the major problems lie with the Packers defense. I'm a Jenkins fan though. I wouldn't be heartbroken if Jenkins is the pick, but only if we shore up our front 7 in FA.
                I think he's referring to Harris leaving....
                Really? I'd like to know Walter's source if that is the case becuase I could swear that Al is still under contract to the Packers.

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                • cpk, you know it's that time of year where all kinds of crazy sh-t starts flying around. Someone somewhere will soon swear that TT has already make his decision on all FA's, his first three picks, and the next ST coach...
                  "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                  KYPack

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                  • Originally posted by cpk1994
                    Originally posted by packrulz
                    Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                    Originally posted by packrulz
                    Walterfootball has the Packers taking Jenkins at 9, I'd be thrilled. I was disturbed to read that Harris told someone he might not be back next year, I wonder where that is coming from.

                    9. Green Bay Packers: Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State
                    Green Bay has major problems in its secondary
                    Walter needs to learn more about the teams before posting. Walter obviously doesn't know where the major problems lie with the Packers defense. I'm a Jenkins fan though. I wouldn't be heartbroken if Jenkins is the pick, but only if we shore up our front 7 in FA.
                    I think he's referring to Harris leaving....
                    Really? I'd like to know Walter's source if that is the case becuase I could swear that Al is still under contract to the Packers.
                    Me too, I hope it's not true.
                    Thanks Ted!

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                    • Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                      Everette Brown is still my guy (whether we run 4-3 or 3-4). He's just a great pass rusher.
                      Scout.com has them taking Brown, new update: http://profootball.scout.com/2/825813.html
                      Thanks Ted!

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                      • Originally posted by packrulz
                        Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                        Everette Brown is still my guy (whether we run 4-3 or 3-4). He's just a great pass rusher.
                        Scout.com has them taking Brown, new update: http://profootball.scout.com/2/825813.html
                        Are you frickin' out of your mind?? A Florida State defensive lineman?
                        "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                        KYPack

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                        • If Gerald McCoy declares for the draft then he's my choice. Packers DT's were terrible last year. He would be an imeadiate upgrade.
                          If you're not a Packer fan, you're not a football fan!

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                          • Originally posted by packrulz
                            Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                            Everette Brown is still my guy (whether we run 4-3 or 3-4). He's just a great pass rusher.
                            Scout.com has them taking Brown, new update: http://profootball.scout.com/2/825813.html
                            Damn thats a horrible mock. There are 4 guys they have after Brown I would take before him. Maualuga, Orakpo, Curry & Mays.

                            And no frickin way I want to touch another Florida State DL that high ever again. Wasn't Jamal Reynolds the 9th pick also?
                            If you're not a Packer fan, you're not a football fan!

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                            • I've used testicular divination to predict the will of Ted Thompson versus the predicated flow of universal truths. Two souls emerged from the miasma.

                              The Packers will draft Terrence Cody in the first round. I'm assuming there would be a trade down involved, but the unyielding veil of mysterious fate does not allow such details to be revealed even to such powerful majicks as I have.

                              Just before I stopped rubbing the source of my divination, another bright light stepped forth unexpectedly. Colgate's Jim Meara will join the team after the draft, which leads me to believe we will be running at least some 3-4 next season.
                              "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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                              • Originally posted by Pack-man
                                If Gerald McCoy declares for the draft then he's my choice. Packers DT's were terrible last year. He would be an immediate upgrade.
                                Agreed, the Packers sorely miss the kind of inside pressure McCoy generates. JH, please quit the Everette Brown bandwagon, he's crap and isnt even the best overrated DE in the draft(that would be Orakapo). McCoy was all over the field last night and showed amazing speed for a DT. Dare I say another Warren Sapp? That's foolish speculation, but not as foolish as wanting a pass-rush specialist DE when your team needs an ever down DE. Teams certanily won't be afraid to run at Brown.
                                "I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious." - Vince Lombardi

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