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  • #76
    Just Do It

    Your team, the team you built and drafted and PAID, deserves better than this. The players YOU drafted throttled the Eagles, but the inept coaching held them back. How could any staff fail to appreciate what you have done by stocking the offense with so many talented players eager to get the ball and show what they can do?

    He would fix this. Him, his ego and his need to get all the media attention without treating anyone halfway decent. But he wanted out. He was tired, health problems and a recent divorce to heal. You are magnanimous and let him go. To save himself and find some peace. Then he turns up in Miami and takes some of the coaches and player personnel with him.

    Doesn't matter. You are still here to draft and sign the checks. Al Davis (he's still alive behind those glasses right Jr.?, Stephen?) proved you don't need a great head coach. Just good coordinators. Even he approved of Jason Garrett, even if he wouldn't work with him. And tubby had been a great D coordinator in Schenectady or wherever he coached before.

    He would have pushed Barber's buttons to make the little girl play on his owie toe. He would have called him a she, a Lion or a mincy little WR. He would have healed Pretty Boy's pinkie by threatening to take away the blonde twist.

    You can't be expected to be everywhere all the time. You can make the money, build the stadium, make time for the ladies and chat with Berman, but you can't babysit the CB to be sure he doesn't throw a temper tantrum with the off duty police. You need a qualified coach who can keep these half wits in line. He could do it. Maybe the Colorado guy can. Then Tubby can go away and stop embarrassing everyone. The other guy looks like a rat, but at least he keeps his tan year round. He would round the offense into shape and teach little Jason how a man keeps the employees performing, not whining. Then you wouldn't have to do EVERYTHING.

    And that would show HIM who was boss. You replaced the hairdo with the bootlegger and still won. You can replace the mean one with the tan one and win again. Even better, the tuna can didn't beat the Giants when it mattered, didn't go all the way. The tan has been there more recently. The tan has also beaten the hooded one in the junior conference. As long as we don't run into the Christian in the Super Bowl, we'll be fine with tan. And Christian is supposed to retire this year, to spend more time with the family. Little late, no? Wait, did I say that out loud? No?! Good. Everything is fine. Call the tan one and let tubby know by courier pigeon.

    C'mon Jerry. You know you want to. Let Phillips go.

    Shanahan To Dallas? via PFT
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by pbmax
      Moss is interviewing with the Chiefs supposedly. I can't get excited about him given the fall of the linebacker play this year, even though that might have as much to do about the DTs than our LBs.

      He did coach under Haslett, who learned in Pittsburgh. I like that lineage.
      So let's send Moss to KC and take Gunther Cunningham in trade.....the guy came up with some good defenses when he had something to work with.
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      • #78
        I cant remember who brought up his name in here a few pages ago and cant find it now but I think that Rod Marinelli might be a good one he had nothing to work with in Detroit and even there started to tighten up there D some and look what he did with Tampa for all those yrs he would be worth a look at any way

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
          Originally posted by Bretsky
          Our predictable schemes just made the problems worse
          They don't have a linebacker in that group who is any good at blitzing. What kind of scheme can overcome this?

          you say predictable schemes, but the secondary was solid. they were doing something right.

          in training camp, Hunter had emerged as the new secret weapon, the surprise blitzer/pash rusher. He turned out to crap in real games. What does that say about the other options?

          They don't have any pass rushers anywhere in the front seven, except for Kampman. THAT is the problem. KGB died. Jenkins died. Hopes for the season died.
          I think it's hard to tell if the Packers have LB's who can blitz or not because the scheme doesn't lend itself to blitzing. The LB's usually line up about 5 yards off the line of scrimmage and bunched in the middle. It's an alignment that relies on the front four providing the pass rush.
          I can't run no more
          With that lawless crowd
          While the killers in high places
          Say their prayers out loud
          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
          A thundercloud
          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Joemailman
            Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
            Originally posted by Bretsky
            Our predictable schemes just made the problems worse
            They don't have a linebacker in that group who is any good at blitzing. What kind of scheme can overcome this?

            you say predictable schemes, but the secondary was solid. they were doing something right.

            in training camp, Hunter had emerged as the new secret weapon, the surprise blitzer/pash rusher. He turned out to crap in real games. What does that say about the other options?

            They don't have any pass rushers anywhere in the front seven, except for Kampman. THAT is the problem. KGB died. Jenkins died. Hopes for the season died.
            I think it's hard to tell if the Packers have LB's who can blitz or not because the scheme doesn't lend itself to blitzing. The LB's usually line up about 5 yards off the line of scrimmage and bunched in the middle. It's an alignment that relies on the front four providing the pass rush.
            I HATE our blitz scheme - if you can you even call it that.

            9 times out of 10, it will be a delayed blitz and one of the LB's will run into a mass of bodies. Watch the Ravens and Chargers, they overload one side and always get a guy through.

            The delayed blitz just seems so counter-productive to me. If the goal of a blitz is to make the QB get rid of the ball quickly why would you want to give him a second or two to find a guy before you even send the LB blitzing.
            Go PACK

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            • #81
              Anyone else thinking VB is here to stay? One would think they would have gotten rid of him already if they were going to.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Partial
                Anyone else thinking VB is here to stay? One would think they would have gotten rid of him already if they were going to.
                There's no need to rush a decision on which coaches to let go. Usually the head coaches get fired right away, and the coordinators trickle out as the postseason progresses. That somebody hasn't been fired yet is no indication that they will be.

                It's better to take your time and make the right decision than to rush. They're not going to run out of assistant coaches, after all.
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                • #83
                  how awkward to you think it is for coaches in the office right now not knowing about their job status

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Iron Mike
                    Originally posted by pbmax
                    Moss is interviewing with the Chiefs supposedly. I can't get excited about him given the fall of the linebacker play this year, even though that might have as much to do about the DTs than our LBs.

                    He did coach under Haslett, who learned in Pittsburgh. I like that lineage.
                    So let's send Moss to KC and take Gunther Cunningham in trade.....the guy came up with some good defenses when he had something to work with.
                    I had the wrong team in this post, Moss is interviewing with the Rams. But is Gunther still coaching with Herm there? Two completely different defensive backgrounds.
                    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by pbmax
                      Originally posted by Iron Mike
                      Originally posted by pbmax
                      Moss is interviewing with the Chiefs supposedly. I can't get excited about him given the fall of the linebacker play this year, even though that might have as much to do about the DTs than our LBs.

                      He did coach under Haslett, who learned in Pittsburgh. I like that lineage.
                      So let's send Moss to KC and take Gunther Cunningham in trade.....the guy came up with some good defenses when he had something to work with.
                      I had the wrong team in this post, Moss is interviewing with the Rams. But is Gunther still coaching with Herm there? Two completely different defensive backgrounds.
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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Pacopete4
                        how awkward to you think it is for coaches in the office right now not knowing about their job status
                        About the same as the rest of America at the moment...
                        "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                        • #87
                          Marinelli is in Seattle, not clear for what job. Marshall, the current D coordinator, might be on the way out.
                          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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