Chad Pennington: MVP?

[Pacopete4]

My God. Cut the shit. 007 is a vet around here..

I understand. I'm not singling her out. Many people have spent all season propping up Favre, tearing down TT, and generally gloating over Favre and the Jets.

Now, for the past 5 weeks, they have wanted to silence the "Favre-haters" and just drop the whole argument. Anyone who wants to talk about Favre NOW is considered to be someone who is obsessed with Favre and holding on to the past. Where was that the first 12 weeks of the season? It just seems a bit hypocritical to me.

I personally have no problem with it either way. You know what you get when you look in the Favre thread.

Paco and I don't see eye-to-eye on almost anything. I still like seeing his point of view. If I don't feel like it is worth it to try and tell him how I think he is wrong I simply skip his posts. Nothing wrong with that.

Then take it to PM. I don't give a shit. I'm cleaning this joint up. Get on the train or get out of the way.

Are you kidding me?

I guess the next time there is a topic about Rodgers and you disagree with someone I should expect not to see any of your posts in there right? Cause you'll have just PM'ed posters instead?

who cares? both stop... I do this a lot too..


it was one comment, it was a joke, people should be allowed to joke ON EITHER SIDE OF THE FENCE... and thats that..

[Bossman641]

she was making a joke.. get over it

So, in the interest of fairness, are we allowed to make jokes that are somewhat critical of Favre and still remain "above the fray"?

You can only make jokes backing Favre, not against him. If you make jokes against Favre you are a trouble-maker. Mad really needs to put a sticky up about this.

Sorry, I didn't really see any "jokes". Most of what I saw was very mean-hearted comments about someone that gave the Packers many winning seasons. Guess I'm just a bit more sentimental then most of you. I have that ability to show respect for the past.

What does Pennington mean to me? NADA. If what Favre did for the Green Bay Packers means nothing to you, carry on. Have at it.

Is it mean-hearted to point out how Favre played like shit in the last quarter of the year?

Is it mean-hearted to see karma bite Favre in the ass? I didn't see too many Favre supporters upset when Favre threw the organization under the bus. That's not very respectful of him is it? As much as he meant to the Packers, he also owed the organization a degree of respect as well. Do you not agree?

What Favre DID for the Packers means plenty to me. That doesn't make him immune from criticism NOW.

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This thread is about Chad Pennington. IMO, he's just a guy. That is showing today.

[Bossman641]

My God. Cut the shit. 007 is a vet around here..

I understand. I'm not singling her out. Many people have spent all season propping up Favre, tearing down TT, and generally gloating over Favre and the Jets.

Now, for the past 5 weeks, they have wanted to silence the "Favre-haters" and just drop the whole argument. Anyone who wants to talk about Favre NOW is considered to be someone who is obsessed with Favre and holding on to the past. Where was that the first 12 weeks of the season? It just seems a bit hypocritical to me.

I personally have no problem with it either way. You know what you get when you look in the Favre thread.

Paco and I don't see eye-to-eye on almost anything. I still like seeing his point of view. If I don't feel like it is worth it to try and tell him how I think he is wrong I simply skip his posts. Nothing wrong with that.

Then take it to PM. I don't give a shit. I'm cleaning this joint up. Get on the train or get out of the way.

Are you kidding me?

I guess the next time there is a topic about Rodgers and you disagree with someone I should expect not to see any of your posts in there right? Cause you'll have just PM'ed posters instead?

who cares? both stop... I do this a lot too..


it was one comment, it was a joke, people should be allowed to joke ON EITHER SIDE OF THE FENCE... and thats that..

Exactly my point. I have no problem with anything you post. I may disagree with it, but that doesn't mean you don't have the right to post it.

Both sides are fair game.

I'd say this board is nowhere near as bad (regarding Favre posts) as it was during about the halfway point of the season.

[GrnBay007]

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I'd say this board is nowhere near as bad (regarding Favre posts) as it was during about the halfway point of the season.

You mean back when MOST of the Favre supporters were keeping all their posts in one thread out of respect for the site? Compared to the last week or two when there have been thread after thread of players calling out BF, stats comparing BF and AR, was the right decision made.....etc ?

Guess I don't agree, but that's cool.

[Pacopete4]

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I'd say this board is nowhere near as bad (regarding Favre posts) as it was during about the halfway point of the season.

You mean back when MOST of the Favre supporters were keeping all their posts in one thread out of respect for the site? Compared to the last week or two when there have been thread after thread of players calling out BF, stats comparing BF and AR, was the right decision made.....etc ?

Guess I don't agree, but that's cool.

007 as much as ur right... it wont matter. The people that run this site don't see it that way so it wont matter how much we bitch about it... lifes never fair! haha

[Lurker64]

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I'd say this board is nowhere near as bad (regarding Favre posts) as it was during about the halfway point of the season.

You mean back when MOST of the Favre supporters were keeping all their posts in one thread out of respect for the site? Compared to the last week or two when there have been thread after thread of players calling out BF, stats comparing BF and AR, was the right decision made.....etc ?

Guess I don't agree, but that's cool.

Really, right now it's about the same as it ever was. Most of the Favre stuff is relegated to a handful of Favre threads, and there's a little spillover into other threads where it's appropriate (or where somebody has an axe to grind.) A handful of other threads get made, then quickly fall off the main page.

The only difference now is that the prevailing winds have switched from "praising Favre" to "critical of Favre".

[Bossman641]

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I'd say this board is nowhere near as bad (regarding Favre posts) as it was during about the halfway point of the season.

You mean back when MOST of the Favre supporters were keeping all their posts in one thread out of respect for the site? Compared to the last week or two when there have been thread after thread of players calling out BF, stats comparing BF and AR, was the right decision made.....etc ?

Guess I don't agree, but that's cool.

At one point, I'm guessing about week 8, over half the topics on the first page related to Favre and TT being an idiot.

This thread was only about Pennington until, guess who, YOU, made a post with Favre undertones.

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I'd say this board is nowhere near as bad (regarding Favre posts) as it was during about the halfway point of the season.

You mean back when MOST of the Favre supporters were keeping all their posts in one thread out of respect for the site? Compared to the last week or two when there have been thread after thread of players calling out BF, stats comparing BF and AR, was the right decision made.....etc ?

Guess I don't agree, but that's cool.

At one point, I'm guessing about week 8, over half the topics on the first page related to Favre and TT being an idiot.

This thread was only about Pennington until, guess who, YOU, made a post with Favre undertones.

Not really. Anyone who interpreted that way may have suspect intentions themselves. I viewed it as Pennington is probably washed up. Personally, I thought it was funny since someone has to arrive before they can be washed up

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I think Vince summed it up best, said exactly what i was going to say..

Partial your statement of Ronnie brown is more valuable to the team then Pennington shows your lack of intellectual thinking..
Think of this, with Ronnie brown out, at least you have a more then capable back in Ricky Williams,
Where as Pennington goes down, and so does your season...
Pennington wont win you over with flashy stats or huge plays, but his ability to come through when needed, and protect the football makes him the dolphins MVP

Vince i agree with you that one of those 3 running backs should have won the award, Manning had one of his worst years since 2001 and he still won it...

I'm saying the wildcat and a strong running attack had more to do with the resurgence than Pennington. That Wild Cat certainly won them a few games early in the season (The Patriots game comes to mind where everyone was shocked when Brown took the first direct snap).

Pennington has his moments where he is solid, but he doesn't have the talent of an Aaron Rodgers, Peyton or Eli Manning, etc. What that means is he isn't a playmaker at the position, and as a result he cannot single-handedly carry a team.

[Bossman641]

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I'd say this board is nowhere near as bad (regarding Favre posts) as it was during about the halfway point of the season.

You mean back when MOST of the Favre supporters were keeping all their posts in one thread out of respect for the site? Compared to the last week or two when there have been thread after thread of players calling out BF, stats comparing BF and AR, was the right decision made.....etc ?

Guess I don't agree, but that's cool.

At one point, I'm guessing about week 8, over half the topics on the first page related to Favre and TT being an idiot.

This thread was only about Pennington until, guess who, YOU, made a post with Favre undertones.

Not really. Anyone who interpreted that way may have suspect intentions themselves. I viewed it as Pennington is probably washed up. Personally, I thought it was funny since someone has to arrive before they can be washed up

Pacopete said regarding her post:

Why, oh WHY!? did the Dolphins give up Cleo Lemon!

I guess PP and I just think alike. SCARY. Haha, JK Paco.

[Lurker64]

I think right now certain people are just very sensitive about things that could possibly be construed as "about Favre", whether they're inclined to love the guy or be critical of him. Hopefully this will just work itself out, since both the person who makes the comment and the person who takes offense at the comment have some "letting go" to do.

With any luck, Favre will announce his retirement soon, he will stay retired, and we can start mending fences in Packerdom.

[Pacopete4]

With any luck, Favre will announce his retirement soon, he will stay retired, and we can start mending fences in Packerdom.

Luck that he retires? Its lucky to get to watch him play because you wont see many like him. I think us "Favre-lovers" still want to see the man play though... no offense, but we dont care about the Packer fans that cant enjoy watching him play even if for another team thinks..


its really only people that hate him, that are sick of him.. whether it be because they dont know a good QB when they see him or think hes a diva or whatever the excuse they have is.. i still love watching him on Sundays and thats more than i can say about watching this years packers team play which is very disheartening..

[Gunakor]

With any luck, Favre will announce his retirement soon, he will stay retired, and we can start mending fences in Packerdom.

Luck that he retires? Its lucky to get to watch him play because you wont see many like him. I think us "Favre-lovers" still want to see the man play though... no offense, but we dont care about the Packer fans that cant enjoy watching him play even if for another team thinks..


its really only people that hate him, that are sick of him.. whether it be because they dont know a good QB when they see him or think hes a diva or whatever the excuse they have is.. i still love watching him on Sundays and thats more than i can say about watching this years packers team play which is very disheartening..

On the other hand, it's not very enjoyable to Favre supporters to see him implode down the stretch, prompting a number of his teammates to say horrible things about him. I would think people do not want to see him keep playing if the man they see is the same man they saw in December.

[packinpatland]

With any luck, Favre will announce his retirement soon, he will stay retired, and we can start mending fences in Packerdom.

Luck that he retires? Its lucky to get to watch him play because you wont see many like him. I think us "Favre-lovers" still want to see the man play though... no offense, but we dont care about the Packer fans that cant enjoy watching him play even if for another team thinks..


its really only people that hate him, that are sick of him.. whether it be because they dont know a good QB when they see him or think hes a diva or whatever the excuse they have is.. i still love watching him on Sundays and thats more than i can say about watching this years packers team play which is very disheartening..

Actually Paco..............I don't agree. I'd like for Favre to retire before they cart him off the field like they did Big Ben. The only thing is, BB is alot younger, and can bounce back.........I'd really hate for Farve to get injured in any way that might be life altering. As far as watching enjoyment, the first half of the season was fun........the 2nd was like getting a bikini wax..........ouch.