"They've really got themselves a defensive staff"

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Who gives a rat's ass what you think Merlin?

Anyone with a Jet's hat for an avatar hold's no respect in this forum.

[Merlin]

At least as many people care about what I have to say as those who care about what a crack smoking drug addict has to say. Apparently all of those drugs has caused you to have vision problems as it isn't a "Jets" hat, in fact the hat supports two teams and a player, dipshit.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

At least as many people care about what I have to say as those who care about what a crack smoking drug addict has to say. Apparently all of those drugs has caused you to have vision problems as it isn't a "Jets" hat, in fact the hat supports two teams and a player, dipshit.

Really? Where is the gold if it is a packer hat. Why is the Jets and NY so prominent and there is a little G.

No fucking self respecting packer fan would ever have a hat with two logos, nor would they support two teams.

[SnakeLH2006]

I'd give up the #9 pick for Peppers in a heart beat. At 9, there is no guarantee you're getting a good player, let alone a stud. The chances they get someone of Peppers level are very slim imo.

Peppers is a top 10 player in the NFL. That is the kind of guy you do what it takes to get.

I wouldn't. I want a stud free agent AND a great player at #9. If getting Peppers requires trading for him then I don't want him. Otherwise I would be very happy to get him.

But like I said before getting Suggs who is younger, very good, has experience in the 3-4, and cheaper would be a better move. Plus you would have more money to give extensions and possibly sign another free agent.

I agree..Suggs is what the Dr. ordered. I don't mind Peppers, but is he the same player he was years ago? You don't hear as much about him anymore and I wouldn't trade high picks for him, if they sign him, sweet, but Suggs is a man-beast for the 3-4.

[DonHutson]

In fact:

Determined to have his cake and eat it too, Julius focused on schools close to home that would allow him to suit up in football and basketball. He ultimately picked North Carolina, where coach Carl Torbush offered Julius a full ride for his gridiron skills, and had no quams with him walking on to the Tar Heels hoops team. Julius was delighted to be attending the alma mater of his hero Jordan.

Maybe I'm drawing too fine a line, but to me letting him walk on is not exactly the same as the hoops team taking him simply to appease the football program. Anybody can try to walk on anywhere. The fact that he got some minutes and didn't just ride the pine, on a team that can have damn near any player it wants should suggest he must have been halfway decent.

If I'm the head basketball coach at Carolina, or Duke, or Kansas, or Kentucky and the football coach tries to get me to take some player I don't want I don't just tell the football coach no... I tell him to go home and get his fucking shinebox.

So I have no doubt he was a football player first. I have no doubt that the orpportunity to play hoops at Carolina influenced his decision to play football there. But I still don't see why they would actually put him on the floor for hoops if he was really a marginal DI talent. Even to do the grunt work. UNC could get almost any player they wanted to do the grunt work.

Maybe its as you say, but it makes no sense to me.

[Fritz]

In fact:

Determined to have his cake and eat it too, Julius focused on schools close to home that would allow him to suit up in football and basketball. He ultimately picked North Carolina, where coach Carl Torbush offered Julius a full ride for his gridiron skills, and had no quams with him walking on to the Tar Heels hoops team. Julius was delighted to be attending the alma mater of his hero Jordan.

Maybe I'm drawing too fine a line, but to me letting him walk on is not exactly the same as the hoops team taking him simply to appease the football program. Anybody can try to walk on anywhere. The fact that he got some minutes and didn't just ride the pine, on a team that can have damn near any player it wants should suggest he must have been halfway decent.

If I'm the head basketball coach at Carolina, or Duke, or Kansas, or Kentucky and the football coach tries to get me to take some player I don't want I don't just tell the football coach no... I tell him to go home and get his fucking shinebox.

So I have no doubt he was a football player first. I have no doubt that the orpportunity to play hoops at Carolina influenced his decision to play football there. But I still don't see why they would actually put him on the floor for hoops if he was really a marginal DI talent. Even to do the grunt work. UNC could get almost any player they wanted to do the grunt work.

Maybe its as you say, but it makes no sense to me.

It's just weird to read about a man that big being described as "delighted."

But I'm delighted they did so.

[Bossman641]

In fact:

Determined to have his cake and eat it too, Julius focused on schools close to home that would allow him to suit up in football and basketball. He ultimately picked North Carolina, where coach Carl Torbush offered Julius a full ride for his gridiron skills, and had no quams with him walking on to the Tar Heels hoops team. Julius was delighted to be attending the alma mater of his hero Jordan.

Maybe I'm drawing too fine a line, but to me letting him walk on is not exactly the same as the hoops team taking him simply to appease the football program. Anybody can try to walk on anywhere. The fact that he got some minutes and didn't just ride the pine, on a team that can have damn near any player it wants should suggest he must have been halfway decent.

If I'm the head basketball coach at Carolina, or Duke, or Kansas, or Kentucky and the football coach tries to get me to take some player I don't want I don't just tell the football coach no... I tell him to go home and get his fucking shinebox.

So I have no doubt he was a football player first. I have no doubt that the orpportunity to play hoops at Carolina influenced his decision to play football there. But I still don't see why they would actually put him on the floor for hoops if he was really a marginal DI talent. Even to do the grunt work. UNC could get almost any player they wanted to do the grunt work.

Maybe its as you say, but it makes no sense to me.

I think we are closer in our thought process then you think. I wasn't trying to say that the football coach was like "hey we got this player we really want. You think you can let him play some so that he'll go here." It was more that he knew he would be given the opportunity to try and walk on to the bball team. Many coaches want their players to only concentrate on 1 sport. Peppers himself found out that by playing bball he was behind in football when spring practices rolled around. That's why he gave up bball, so he could focus solely on football.

He was a decent basketball player is all I was trying to say. His strengths were more his size then his actual basketball skills, if that makes sense. It's not like 6'7" 250 lb guys grow on trees. Plus, UNC's PF's were garbage when he was there so he was able to fill a role with them.

[DonHutson]

I think we are closer in our thought process then you think. I wasn't trying to say that the football coach was like "hey we got this player we really want. You think you can let him play some so that he'll go here." It was more that he knew he would be given the opportunity to try and walk on to the bball team.

I see. I read it the other way, but I probably read more than was there.

[mission]

I think we are closer in our thought process then you think. I wasn't trying to say that the football coach was like "hey we got this player we really want. You think you can let him play some so that he'll go here." It was more that he knew he would be given the opportunity to try and walk on to the bball team.

I see. I read it the other way, but I probably read more than was there.

The guy is physically huge. Duke, NC or anyone else - especially in this day and age - would have no problem with a guy like that on the bench. That's not a favor thing ... hardly anyone has that body in the starting 5 let alone top 12 twelve. If the kid is 17/18 and has those measurable s, they will always get a shot.



PS - ty is right about the self respecting fan hat ... there is no way in hell i would be seen with that hat on. brett favre or not .. a jets hat?! come on .. booooo...