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they'll get Jennings done; TT will have cap space to burn this year and he'll do the front load thing again
They'll probably sign a role player/backup/body in FA as wellTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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I heard Jennings mention in an interview. Basically he stated testing free agency is best for his family. Its not rumor mill.Originally posted by redthats the first i've heard that jennings wants to test free agency
i know he didn't want to redo his contract last season because he didn't want to have distractions during the season
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Originally posted by packer4lifewaldo, i read your posts, they are intelligent, but please elaborate on your love for colledge, seeing that this is one of the few times that anyone has spoken of his play as anything more than average.
Did I miss something this season?
Have to agree with packer4life, I enjoy your posts too, Waldo,
but I can count on one (1) finger the number of times I've
read any real positive comments on Colledge in this Forum.
Would love to believe it, he's been here long enough to have
become a mighty force !
Is it really a halo or
just a swelled head ?
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I think alot of people still have a biased impression of Colledge from his rookie and sophomore years when he was very inconsistent. I thought he was our best OL by far this year.Originally posted by Packers4EverOriginally posted by packer4lifewaldo, i read your posts, they are intelligent, but please elaborate on your love for colledge, seeing that this is one of the few times that anyone has spoken of his play as anything more than average.
Did I miss something this season?
Have to agree with packer4life, I enjoy your posts too, Waldo,
but I can count on one (1) finger the number of times I've
read any real positive comments on Colledge in this Forum.
Would love to believe it, he's been here long enough to have
become a mighty force !
Go PACK
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The only LT in this draft who has feet that can hang with DC is J. Smith. His movement ability is exceptional, and he doesn't struggle agaisnt one thing, generally just a play of sloppy tech, he can beat power, handle big guys, and take care of speed. Clifton's starting to struggle with speed, especially when they cut inside. Clifton would really struggle with the KGB of old right now.
Colledge has been the whipping boy for a long time because of his consistency. As a rook power beat him. Afterwards it was no one thing, just too much sloppy tech. He cleaned that up a lot this last season and found a great deal of consistency. Every time he replaced a T, he looked better than the guy he replaced, and in Tausher's case, a lot better. But his feet are more valuable on the left, either at LG or LT.
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you might be right...i still have flashbacks of his first game in the preseason against san diego. oh man he looked like an absolute nightmare in that gameOriginally posted by Bossman641I think alot of people still have a biased impression of Colledge from his rookie and sophomore years when he was very inconsistent. I thought he was our best OL by far this year.Originally posted by Packers4EverOriginally posted by packer4lifewaldo, i read your posts, they are intelligent, but please elaborate on your love for colledge, seeing that this is one of the few times that anyone has spoken of his play as anything more than average.
Did I miss something this season?
Have to agree with packer4life, I enjoy your posts too, Waldo,
but I can count on one (1) finger the number of times I've
read any real positive comments on Colledge in this Forum.
Would love to believe it, he's been here long enough to have
become a mighty force !
"In the time of chimpanzees, I was a monkey."
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Nor is he worth a big long term contract. He is worth a moderate long term contract (J. Scott money). He plays too much more at T or gets some honors, he's no longer a moderate long term guy, he becomes a big long term guy. 4-5M is still feasible, FA left guard money has become Faneca money (6-7M), we wait a year and he doesn't take a home town discount, that is what we're looking at. He moves to RT, we're looking at Tausher money (5.5-6.5M). He moves the LT, 8-9M is what we're talking. He goes to a PB at LT and 10M+ is what we're looking at. IMO it is riskier to wait to pull the trigger as the potiential payday goes through the roof, than it is to do it now. Less than stellar 4-5M/yr performance is far better than looking at 10M, over 3-4 years that's a FA like Woodson we give up by sitting pat.Originally posted by rbalohaColledge's improved but not enough to warrant a big long term contract.
Believe this is Colledge's money year. Watched Colledge from Boise State and believe left tackle is his best position.
Carolina balked at signing Gross last year for low end LT money, wanted to wait a year to be safe. Oops. That's a 4M/yr mistake, 24M in the long run. You can get a solid player for 4M/yr.
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He would be taking a huge risk if he refused to sign an extension. The best thing for his family would be to accept a big signing bonus now. I'll be surprised if he doesn't sign with the Packers.Originally posted by rbalohaI heard Jennings mention in an interview. Basically he stated testing free agency is best for his family. Its not rumor mill.Originally posted by redthats the first i've heard that jennings wants to test free agency
i know he didn't want to redo his contract last season because he didn't want to have distractions during the seasonI can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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This came out after those rumors. I doubt you heard him say that he's definitely going to test UFA.Originally posted by rbalohaI heard Jennings mention in an interview. Basically he stated testing free agency is best for his family. Its not rumor mill.
If he was definitely going to test UFA, then you wouldn't read this:Mike Vandermause, of the Green Bay Press-Gazette, reports Green Bay Packers WR Greg Jennings said he would like to stay with the Packers beyond when his contract expires after the 2009 season. "It's not really all about the money. I'm more concerned about my family and where their comfort level is. We're comfortable here. We like it here. It's close to home for me. It's actually the perfect situation for me and my family. We don't want to leave at all. Hopefully we'd love to get something done, either here now or next year, it doesn't matter. The sooner the better actually," Jennings said.
Pete Dougherty, of the Green Bay Press-Gazette, reports the Green Bay Packers and the agent for WR Greg Jennings will likely begin talks on a contract extension at the NFL Scouting Combine."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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The time to sign for players is right now. Money is worth more right now. 20M last June is worth no more than 12M today (if not kept in a mattress). When this market recovers 20M will turn into 30M real quick. The present value of large amounts of wealth hasn't been higher or decades.
I don't think that it is any coincidence that Aaron signed pretty quick after the market tanked. He's a smart guy, he was probably costing himself long term wealth if he waited until it recovers, even if he became a more accomplished player and worth a larger contract.
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I think we should go out and sign at least one quality free agent. With 36 million and Harris, Driver, and Clifton all leaving probably within the next two years I don't think they will be strapped for cash any time soon. This is a good time a sign a decent player.
Re-sign are guys and sign a guy that knows how to play the 3-4Draft Brandin Cooks WR OSU!
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Think that highly of him, eh? That's something to say a guy who was bottom of the second round a couple of years ago bears mentioning with guys who are looking to go top 5 in the draft, saying his tools are as good.Originally posted by WaldoThe only LT in this draft who has feet that can hang with DC is J. Smith. His movement ability is exceptional, and he doesn't struggle agaisnt one thing, generally just a play of sloppy tech, he can beat power, handle big guys, and take care of speed. Clifton's starting to struggle with speed, especially when they cut inside. Clifton would really struggle with the KGB of old right now.
Colledge has been the whipping boy for a long time because of his consistency. As a rook power beat him. Afterwards it was no one thing, just too much sloppy tech. He cleaned that up a lot this last season and found a great deal of consistency. Every time he replaced a T, he looked better than the guy he replaced, and in Tausher's case, a lot better. But his feet are more valuable on the left, either at LG or LT.
So true though, that OT, more than any other position, takes a couple of years to develop. Along with QB, probably the position you're least likely to get instant satisfaction from the draft. Joe Thomas's of the world aside.--
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