Greatest Need in the 2009 NFL Draft for Packers

[sheepshead]

Dear Mr. Thompson,

Please draft a new quarterback.

Signed,

Partial

P.S. I know more than you, so just do it.

P.S.S. Ruin a great thread and expect to be reading only from now on. Both of you.

I'm not sure I understand, can you pvt me please?

[Zool]

Ohh I can translate this one.


Stop being such a dick.

[cheesner]

OT is also a spot we need to look at, but even though there's a lot of bitching about Clifton here, our offense was where it was with him in there last year, and we've got other tackles on the roster - and I agree that Colledge deserves his shot at LT. One of Tausch, Giacomini or Barbre will man the other side.

Our offense was good last season with Clifton but I look at it this way:

1. Clifton IMHO was the weak link in the chain. An improvement in that position would greatly improve the run game making the Packers an elite offensive team.
2. Holding the ball longer on offense with a better run game will improve our defense by giving them longer rests and just keeping the other teams offense on the sidelines.
3. Clifton's play has steadily decreased and that trend will likely continue.


Furthermore, this is the best year of elite OTs as far back as I can remember. The top 4 (with reservations on character issues for Smith) are all capable of being a #1 overall in typical draft years. I think they are each better than last years No. 1 - Jake Long. Due to this large number, the Packers may get a shot a one of them, and only have to commit #9 money to them. To me this makes the drafting of an OT an extra value bargain at a very important position.

[sheepshead]

Ohh I can translate this one.


Stop being such a dick.

UHHHH Some decorum here that overreached on? Like you calling me a dick for instance?

[Zool]

Ohh I can translate this one.


Stop being such a dick.

UHHHH Some decorum here that overreached on? Like you calling me a dick for instance?

No i said you were being a dick by making a mockery of Partial and his opinion. I didn't say "Sheep you're a dick".

[Guiness]

Dear Mr. Thompson,

Please draft a new quarterback.

Signed,

Partial

P.S. I know more than you, so just do it.

P.S.S. Ruin a great thread and expect to be reading only from now on. Both of you.

u so sure it's 2 of them?

[sheepshead]

[quote="Zool"]

Ohh I can translate this one.


Stop being such a dick.

UHHHH Some decorum here that overreached on? Like you calling me a dick for instance?

No i said you were being a dick by making a mockery of Partial and his opinion. I didn't say "Sheep you're a dick".[/quote

Oh so, good natured ribbing about one's opinion is taboo? Is this the first time you or mad has seen this type of thing on this or any other board? Particularly one about sports and that is populated mostly by guys? Is that what you're saying?

I'm really not trying to be "dick" here. I really just want to understand what the threat and subsequent vulgar name calling is about.

[Zool]

[quote="sheepshead"]

Ohh I can translate this one.


Stop being such a dick.

UHHHH Some decorum here that overreached on? Like you calling me a dick for instance?

No i said you were being a dick by making a mockery of Partial and his opinion. I didn't say "Sheep you're a dick".[/quote

Oh so, good natured ribbing about one's opinion is taboo? Is this the first time you or mad has seen this type of thing on this or any other board? Particularly one about sports and that is populated mostly by guys? Is that what you're saying?

I didn't once say i agreed or disagreed. I'm just translating because you seemed confused.

[vince]

1. DE
1. NT
2. OL

It's a tie between DE and NT as our biggest need currently. The reality is that, without relying on Harrell, we're currently one injury away from having a major liability against the run. Dom says right up front that if you can't stop the run, then nothing on defense works. We can't afford to hope they big maulers on the inside can stay healthy all year long. That usually doesn't happen.

I have no doubt that'll get fixed, but that's currently our biggest need.

[wist43]

Why in poo perfect hell would you want to draft a DE in the first round if you're going to be running a 3-4???

A DE in a 3-4 is pretty much a bell weather against the run, eating up blockers so the LB's can make the plays... Good gravy, they're talking about moving Jolly, and Harrell to DE... those are the types of guys you're going to be seeing at DE in a 3-4.

No need for a 1st round DE in a 3-4... a 3-4 team, if they are going to invest in front 7 talent in the first round, will be looking at LB and NT, and that's about it.

DE's that fit a 3-4, simply don't have 1st round value.

Then why do the Pats, Chargers, Cowboys, etc... spend first round picks on DE's?

T. Warren - 1st
R. Seymore - 1st
M. Spears - 1st
L. Castillo - 1st
I. Olshansky - high 2nd
P Merling - 32nd overall (first pick in 2nd)

The only guy on that list that I would give a 1st round pick for would be Seymore... some of those other guys are okay, but they're certainly not the playermakers of their respective defenses.

And Seymour is just a damn good DL... I thought the Patriots reached for him the year he came out, but he really is a stud DL. He can't play the nose, although I think he's talented enough he could probably be okay there too... I don't see him as a DE or DT, just a DL. Damn good player, a player you're willing to make accomodations and changes for, i.e. "hybrid".

That said, I just don't value DE's in 3-4's as much as rush LB'ers and NT's... none of those guys you listed, sans Seymour, is a difference maker... you can find guys to man those positions more cheaply.

[wist43]

Pass Rushing OLB... I have Orakpo penciled in for that role.

NT... have Raji penciled in for that role.

Rest of the draft... holes everywhere, or soon to be holes; throw a dart.

TT wont look at need with that first pick though... you know his mantra, which ever player they figure has a better future, regardless of position. We're as likely to end up with a RB or WR at that pick as we are a NT, or rush LB.

You complain about our team being a poor fit for a 3-4 than pencil in Orakpo at OLB, LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGUc3UL64f0

Looks like an rush LB in a 3-4 all day to me...

[packer4life]

very nice, how much?

[Partial]

Orakpo is looking very good. Infinitely better player than Everette Brown.

[red]

Pass Rushing OLB... I have Orakpo penciled in for that role.

NT... have Raji penciled in for that role.

Rest of the draft... holes everywhere, or soon to be holes; throw a dart.

TT wont look at need with that first pick though... you know his mantra, which ever player they figure has a better future, regardless of position. We're as likely to end up with a RB or WR at that pick as we are a NT, or rush LB.

You complain about our team being a poor fit for a 3-4 than pencil in Orakpo at OLB, LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGUc3UL64f0

Looks like an rush LB in a 3-4 all day to me...

everytime i watch that video he jumps back up to the top of my wish list

[red]

where the hell are the draft mags?

usually there's a couple out before the combine