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Inconceivable!Originally posted by Deputy Nutzdon't be denseOriginally posted by GuinessThat word that you say. I do not think it means what you think it means.Originally posted by Deputy Nutzsee now it is happening to you.Originally posted by ZoolUnpossibleOriginally posted by Deputy Nutzyou make me dumber.Originally posted by 3irty1This is museum quality stupidity.
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Well, a trade with teh Jets would likely be just #9 overall for their first and second. I think that works out fairly equally, though I didn't look it up.
I don't see San Fran going down one spot for a second or even a third. Maybe a fourth if they really like Stafford/Sanchez."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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Anybody want a peanut?Originally posted by ZoolInconceivable!Originally posted by Deputy Nutzdon't be denseOriginally posted by GuinessThat word that you say. I do not think it means what you think it means.Originally posted by Deputy Nutzsee now it is happening to you.Originally posted by ZoolUnpossibleOriginally posted by Deputy Nutzyou make me dumber.--
Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...
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I don't see us trading just because Stafford is there. Quinn was there when we selected Harrell and Thompson didn't make a trade with the Browns for that spot. Either there was no offer to trade because the Browns knew Thompson wasn't taking Quinn or they offered and Thompson refused. So unless Thompson learned from that mistake, I don't see it happening. Not many first round players turn out to be much and if you are taking an OT or DT at #9, you better make damn sure the guy can start day 1, otherwise you are better off trading the pick. Whatever Thompson does do, you can bet will go against the grain.Originally posted by Lurker64I think, actually, the best possible scenario is that Stafford is sitting there at #9, and San Francisco gives up a 2nd or a 3rd to move up one single spot so somebody doesn't grab Stafford (or Sanchez, if Stafford is gone) before they can.
I can't see any Packer fan complaining about moving down one spot, netting extra picks, when the player who is traded up for is a QB."Once the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the Republic.”
– Benjamin Franklin
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I'm just saying that the best case scenario would be to talk a team into giving up a pick or two anywhere to trade up one spot to take a QB who we weren't going to take anyway, just so nobody else trades up into that position. Picking at #10 isn't any worse than picking at #9 if they guy who goes #9 isn't a guy you want, particularly if you get picks out of the deal and you get to pay the #10 guy less.Originally posted by MerlinI don't see us trading just because Stafford is there. Quinn was there when we selected Harrell and Thompson didn't make a trade with the Browns for that spot. Either there was no offer to trade because the Browns knew Thompson wasn't taking Quinn or they offered and Thompson refused. So unless Thompson learned from that mistake, I don't see it happening. Not many first round players turn out to be much and if you are taking an OT or DT at #9, you better make damn sure the guy can start day 1, otherwise you are better off trading the pick. Whatever Thompson does do, you can bet will go against the grain.Originally posted by Lurker64I think, actually, the best possible scenario is that Stafford is sitting there at #9, and San Francisco gives up a 2nd or a 3rd to move up one single spot so somebody doesn't grab Stafford (or Sanchez, if Stafford is gone) before they can.
I can't see any Packer fan complaining about moving down one spot, netting extra picks, when the player who is traded up for is a QB.</delurk>
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I agree with that, but I don't make the decisions. Given a similar scenario when we picked Harrell, we didn't cash in on the Quinn deal and it was an obvious situation, probably more-so then this potentially is."Once the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the Republic.”
– Benjamin Franklin
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The thing about the Quinn deal is that Cleveland needed to trade up above 23 in order to get Quinn, since Kansas City was on record that they would take Quinn if he was there. Green Bay was picking at 16, so if Cleveland offered less for the pick than Green Bay wanted, they had teams 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, and 22 to negotiate with. The word from the draft was that Cleveland was lowballing everybody, until they got desperate at around teams 21 and 22 which was the point of no return for them. They eventually ended up giving up a lot to the last possible team they could trade up for in order to get Quinn.
As I understand it, Cleveland offered next year's first (turned out to be #22), and a swap of 2nd and 3rd round picks to Green Bay, Jacksonville, Tennessee, and New York all of which turned down the offer since it was a bad deal (no additional picks this year). Dallas was sitting in the "last chance" seat ,so they named their price (which was Cleveland's second and next year's first).
This year, Green Bay is likely to be sitting in the "last chance" seat, since San Francisco will probably take a QB if one is available. So the odds of us getting a favorable deal are better. After all, if you're in a position where a team might want to trade up to take a QB, it's best to be picking one spot before another team that needs a QB, since other needy teams will want to jump that team.</delurk>
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One would think San Fran would be looking for a QB - but any reports on whether there's a leak to suggest they really, really like Stafford or Sanchez?"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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NFL Network today did it's top 10; they had Detroit picking a QB and Jack Del Rio taking Sanchez right before us.
They also had Crabtree there for us at #9, but predicted TT would take Maybin insteadTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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Hard to tell if they're looking for a QB or not. They may not be ready to give up on Alex Smith. http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW...wwhi031309.htmOriginally posted by FritzOne would think San Fran would be looking for a QB - but any reports on whether there's a leak to suggest they really, really like Stafford or Sanchez?I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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I can't wait to see who Thompson thinks is worthy of the 9th pick. I know that the majority of us will be oh so wrong with who we think he is going to take."Once the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the Republic.”
– Benjamin Franklin
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He does surprise, doesn't he? The only time his first pick didn't surprise me was the Hawk pick. I was even a little surprised and disappointed in the Rodgers pick. Shows you how much I know."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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