Wow Bush to get 4,5 Mil

[Bretsky]

I'm under the weather today with the flu

Now that I see this I'm going to go get sick

[mission]

So he will be what, $1.3 mill against the cap this year? I think they already offered him over a million for the tender. I am not a J. Bush fan by any means, but it is is only an additional $300,000 and they gain three years. IMO, not a deal breaker either way. Let him go or resign? I bet they flipped a coin.

This is probably the most reasonable reply so far.

He's really not getting much more than he already had, but a signing bonus and more job security. Still doesn't mean he's above getting cut, outside of that bonus.

I think it's OK, I guess... just interested to see how this could affect other contract restructuring as the year progresses.

Not much more? Its a million dollars more. With the tender he could have been brought to camp and if cut would have cost nothing. I didn't have a problem with that. Now if he gets cut, he costs $1Million.

But, I am willing to acknowledge I have no idea at all how effective he is or isn't on ST. People complain about his penalties. He had five on ST this season, but I don't recall him having a penalty issue in past seasons. It didn't seem to scare off other teams, as a bunch were interested in him.

I acknowledged the bonus ... it's still, in the grand scheme of things, not terribly big and crazy. We tendered him with the knowledge that at least one team out there would be interested and wanted to protect the invested development/coaching if anything.

I've seen a lot of 5/6 CB guys that don't play anywhere as well as Bush (honestly, think of some of the goons we've ran circles around!) has on defense. I'll get flamed for this, but Bush's problem isn't 90% of the time. It's 10% of the time when something just doesn't go right and he gets burned for a stupid big play that everyone remembers on a crucial 3rd down or something. Anyone remember him in the preseason last year or the one before where he had a couple picks and was looking hot... then he wore down and made plenty of mistakes as the year went on. For a guy not being depended on for the top 4 slots at CB, I think he has shown some flashes.

Don't see this as much of a problem unless we can't resolve the situation with T-Will, but I suspect he will get a nice little pay raise -- more than Bush's -- and we'll go on with the season happily ever after. With Bush, hopefully having to play very little defense.

Now it's time for the obligatory Bush-related comment... I really don't like the guy at all because of his miscues last year and have sworn and thrown things across rooms because of the guy ... I'm just trying to be a little open minded about it at least. It sticks with the "keep our own players" mentality, regardless if the grass appears greener. If TT is gonna talk about a strategy and only executes half (draft) of it then I can't imagine his approach to be too effective.

[Charles Woodson]

I disagree. I think he's a pretty decent 5th DB/safety. How many good ones are there? Not many.

You know the sad thing? is that hes a decent 5th DB/safety... And thats a damn overstatement... Bush was awful as both and the stat books prove it, his penalties were ridiculous. Why someone with his stature gets that much money is beyond me. You ask how many decent 5th DBs there are? i can guarentee you that theres at least 148... to break it down for you, 4 on the other 32 teams.

[Lurker64]

Is Bush really getting paid that much more as a "special teamer who only plays on defense if somebody else gets injured" than Tracy White did to fill the same role?

At the very least, Bush has more upside than Tracy White since he's young and is improving in some aspects of his game.

[Patler]

I have not been that down on Bush, and listed last week some of the truly miserable corners the Packers have had the last 10 years (might have been in a TW thread). Last week I said I expected the Packers to match $million/year salaries, but I didn't expect him to pay more than 100k or so in bonuses. It is uncharacteristic for TT to pay to a guy not expected to play on defense, and Bush will be pretty low on the depth chart.

[texaspackerbacker]

Bush obviously gets a lot more respect both from the Packer leadership and around the league than he does from many in this forum. As was said, only the bonus is guaranteed, and the contract is only slightly more per season than he was previously offered. I certainly am not upset about the signing. At worst, it is a neutral non-issue. At best, we tied up a decent player for three years pretty cheap.

[Patler]

Woodson, Harris, Williams, Blackmon, Lee
Collins, Bigby, Rouse, Smith

Throw in Bush and it seems one of the 9 mentioned above may not be on the team, and certainly will not be if there is a DB drafted.

[Patler]

Bush obviously gets a lot more respect both from the Packer leadership and around the league than he does from many in this forum. As was said, only the bonus is guaranteed, and the contract is only slightly more per season than he was previously offered. I certainly am not upset about the signing. At worst, it is a neutral non-issue. At best, we tied up a decent player for three years pretty cheap.

Actually, he seems to get more respect around the league, if his agent is to be believed, Jets, Titans, Ravens, Browns, Bucs and Saints all were interested.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Woodson, Harris, Williams, Blackmon, Lee
Collins, Bigby, Rouse, Smith

Throw in Bush and it seems one of the 9 mentioned above may not be on the team, and certainly will not be if there is a DB drafted.

They kept that many last year. If they draft a guy, then Rouse, Bigby, Smith, and Bush could all be on the bubble--depending on how the battles go.

[mission]

At worst, it is a neutral non-issue. At best, we tied up a decent player for three years pretty cheap.

Exactly.

[Fritz]

Woodson, Harris, Williams, Blackmon, Lee
Collins, Bigby, Rouse, Smith

Throw in Bush and it seems one of the 9 mentioned above may not be on the team, and certainly will not be if there is a DB drafted.

They kept that many last year. If they draft a guy, then Rouse, Bigby, Smith, and Bush could all be on the bubble--depending on how the battles go.

I'm blanking out - who is this Smith? And by the way, don't forget everybody's hero - Charlie Peprah.

[Patler]

I'm blanking out - who is this Smith? And by the way, don't forget everybody's hero - Charlie Peprah.

Anthony Smith is the FA safety they signed last week from the Steelers.
I didn't forget Peprah, I left him off intentionally because I figured he has as much chance to make the team as Joe Porter, the only other DB on the roster.

[Patler]

Woodson, Harris, Williams, Blackmon, Lee
Collins, Bigby, Rouse, Smith

Throw in Bush and it seems one of the 9 mentioned above may not be on the team, and certainly will not be if there is a DB drafted.

They kept that many last year. If they draft a guy, then Rouse, Bigby, Smith, and Bush could all be on the bubble--depending on how the battles go.

They kept 10 last year, but in the past most often kept just 9. If they draft anyone someone will be gone, and even if they don't draft anyone, one of the 9, most likely a safety, might be gone.

I would have to say Bush is not on the bubble, regardless. I can't imagine they will pay him a $1M bonus, and then cut him this year. He will be in GB at least in 2009 regardless of how he plays on D. It would seem to come down to Rouse or Smith that would get cut.

[KYPack]

Well, if I'm paying attention, Thompson will now,

- Sign Williams to an incentive laden contract.
- Draft Jenkins the Ohio State CB, throwing everybody into a tizzy.

He might, he's tricky, that TT.

I think this signing means we're getting a OT in the draft, but who knows?

[Patler]

Well, if I'm paying attention, Thompson will now,

- Sign Williams to an incentive laden contract.
- Draft Jenkins the Ohio State CB, throwing everybody into a tizzy.

He might, he's tricky, that TT.

I think this signing means we're getting a OT in the draft, but who knows?

There might be a WR available, so you never know!
I can see it now, a WR, a corner and a safety on day 1, then a QB, a punter and a runningback!