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DT B.J. Raji tests POSITIVE FOR DRUGS!
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This is really all it comes down to.Originally posted by FritzBesides, the question as to whether the Pack should take him hinges on two questions: what drug did he test postive for? And, if it was pot, was it good pot and can he get some for the Packerrats who smoke it up in the Wisconsin area?
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Carrying on with the assumption it's weed...Originally posted by swedeWeed made us and a lot of other teams pass on Warren Sapp--do you think Ron Wolf would have done that differently after a few years of watching Sapp play?
Not an immediate reason to pass on him, IMO. Need to re-interview and try to find out how if he's a chronic or not.
There's a quite a list of guys who were known to inhale in college, and a mixed bag of results.
Sapp, Moss - overcame the problem, great
Ricki Williams - some ok years, certainly could've better if he'd handled it better--
Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...
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Originally posted by PartialOK, you draft Raji, have him sit in prison in a year, then he'll be a clean camper too..
C'mon man, use your head. Dude isn't going to stop smoking until it really bites him in the ass.
It is my understanding he will have one strike against him now, since it was the NFL that caught him.
Where are you getting the information from that he'll already be categorized as a first time offender ?
I honestly don't know either way so I'm just askingTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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Guys do sometimes get busted in college and shape up and fly straight when they get to the pros. Luis Castillo got busted juicing at Northwestern, still got drafted in the first, got drug tested several times a month for years and has been clean ever since.
A lot of guys go about things very differently when football is their fulltime job.</delurk>
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Catstillo of the chargers had it count as a first time offense when he was tested for banned substance. So did Merriman. Both initial tests were at Combine iirc. It counts because the NFL is the one administering the tests.Originally posted by BretskyOriginally posted by PartialOK, you draft Raji, have him sit in prison in a year, then he'll be a clean camper too..
C'mon man, use your head. Dude isn't going to stop smoking until it really bites him in the ass.
It is my understanding he will have one strike against him now, since it was the NFL that caught him.
Where are you getting the information from that he'll already be categorized as a first time offender ?
I honestly don't know either way so I'm just asking
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He tested for a banned substance that he didn't know was banned. Quite a bit different than being unable to put down the peace pipe, even when some NFL team is willing to pay you millions of dollars to do so.Originally posted by Lurker64Guys do sometimes get busted in college and shape up and fly straight when they get to the pros. Luis Castillo got busted juicing at Northwestern, still got drafted in the first, got drug tested several times a month for years and has been clean ever since.
A lot of guys go about things very differently when football is their fulltime job.
This guy has now tested positive for weed twice, in the face of getting a huge sum of money. He is a bum. No thanks!!
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Originally posted by PartialCatstillo of the chargers had it count as a first time offense when he was tested for banned substance. So did Merriman. Both initial tests were at Combine iirc. It counts because the NFL is the one administering the tests.Originally posted by BretskyOriginally posted by PartialOK, you draft Raji, have him sit in prison in a year, then he'll be a clean camper too..
C'mon man, use your head. Dude isn't going to stop smoking until it really bites him in the ass.
It is my understanding he will have one strike against him now, since it was the NFL that caught him.
Where are you getting the information from that he'll already be categorized as a first time offender ?
I honestly don't know either way so I'm just asking
I'm torn; you've just given evidence of two guys I'd love to have as Packers
I'd probably roll the dice if he was there and he was the BPA
But I'm still on the Crabbie train if he's there as well.
And if we can steal a pick for somebody trying to move ahead of San Fran for a QB I'd take that in a secondTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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Originally posted by PartialThe difference with those guys was banned substances. At least I am pretty sure it wasnt pot.
This guy seems to have a TON of baggage with him. No way does Teets pick a Bengal personality like this guy.
Well Warren Sapp would be another. Hey, you're talking with the dude who wanted Odell Thurman
Of course, I didn't know his background.
I have a sick feeling we'll end up with the OT with the questionable character and work ethicTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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On a personal level, probably no one.Originally posted by Charles WoodsonIts weed, who gives a fuck
On a "This guy has been busted twice already and is likely to do it again, with getting caught once more resulting in a 4 game suspension and twice more in a year suspension" kind of way I'd say every packer fan
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Couldn't have said it better myself. I do it every day, and I'm sure over 70% of all athletes smoke a lot as well. Calvin Johnson, Gaines Adams, and others admitted to ganja use in 2007 during their time at college, yet they're never criticized. THC stays in certain people's systems longer than others...so if Raji smoked one bowl a month ago, that THC could still be in his system. Unfortunate.Originally posted by Charles WoodsonIts weed, who gives a fuck
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