Cutler to the Bears

[Dabaddestbear]

Maybe the reason is because the average NFL career is a little over 3 seasons per the NFLPA website.

Which makes your reasoning for draft picks that may never make it past 3 years versus a pro bowl Qb that has well established himself as a franchise a QB in in over 3 years just that much more illogical.

[Patler]

Maybe the reason is because the average NFL career is a little over 3 seasons per the NFLPA website.

Which makes your reasoning for draft picks that may never make it past 3 years versus a pro bowl Qb that has well established himself as a franchise a QB in in over 3 years just that much more illogical.

Nah. Cutler's 3 years are up. I suspect the Bears will cut him in camp this year!

[Dabaddestbear]

Maybe the reason is because the average NFL career is a little over 3 seasons per the NFLPA website.

Which makes your reasoning for draft picks that may never make it past 3 years versus a pro bowl Qb that has well established himself as a franchise a QB in in over 3 years just that much more illogical.

Nah. Cutler's 3 years are up. I suspect the Bears will cut him in camp this year!

Stop raining on my parade....I hate you Patler!...

[3irty1]

This deal really isn't a steal for anybody. The Bears had to pay the price for missing on so many QBs and had to give up a fortune to get someone respectable. The Broncos will know what they got themselves into when Kyle Orton takes the field. This trade represents plan C for both teams. I'm glad plan A is working out for the Pack.

[Dabaddestbear]

This deal really isn't a steal for anybody. The Bears had to pay the price for missing on so many QBs and had to give up a fortune to get someone respectable. The Broncos will know what they got themselves into when Kyle Orton takes the field. This trade represents plan C for both teams. I'm glad plan A is working out for the Pack.

What was you guys plan A? I thought it would be to get your defense together?

[3irty1]

This deal really isn't a steal for anybody. The Bears had to pay the price for missing on so many QBs and had to give up a fortune to get someone respectable. The Broncos will know what they got themselves into when Kyle Orton takes the field. This trade represents plan C for both teams. I'm glad plan A is working out for the Pack.

What was you guys plan A? I thought it would be to get your defense together?

Plan A was to draft and groom a franchise QB. You know like the Bears wanted to do with Rex.

Looks like both teams need a plan to assemble and/or keep their defense together. Neither one was what they used to be.

[ThunderDan]

Maybe the reason is because the average NFL career is a little over 3 seasons per the NFLPA website.

Which makes your reasoning for draft picks that may never make it past 3 years versus a pro bowl Qb that has well established himself as a franchise a QB in in over 3 years just that much more illogical.

A QB with a losing career NFL record is now a franchise QB?

The real issue is one tackle and any players career or season could be over. That's a steep price to pay if he gets Tom Brady(ed) in the first game.

The Bears improved at QB with this pickup but at what real cost? I personally think they overpaid by one 1st round draft pick.

[Dabaddestbear]

Maybe the reason is because the average NFL career is a little over 3 seasons per the NFLPA website.

Which makes your reasoning for draft picks that may never make it past 3 years versus a pro bowl Qb that has well established himself as a franchise a QB in in over 3 years just that much more illogical.

A QB with a losing career NFL record is now a franchise QB?

The real issue is one tackle and any players career or season could be over. That's a steep price to pay if he gets Tom Brady(ed) in the first game.

The Bears improved at QB with this pickup but at what real cost? I personally think they overpaid by one 1st round draft pick.

I remember a RB being traded back in the day for two first rounders and two seconds, that still went on to play very well. If someone can do that for a RB, it should be ok, for a QB that can get the job done on offense. And in regards to the win-loss record. Sorry, he isnt a QB that plays on defense, and make tremendous plays there. He kicked the ass out of things on the offense though. I mean if he were playing defense like that too, then I wouldn't have minded if the Bears gave up double the picks for the guy. It would have been like having a the reincarnation of Jim Thorpe!!!

[SnakeLH2006]

Maybe the reason is because the average NFL career is a little over 3 seasons per the NFLPA website.

Which makes your reasoning for draft picks that may never make it past 3 years versus a pro bowl Qb that has well established himself as a franchise a QB in in over 3 years just that much more illogical.

A QB with a losing career NFL record is now a franchise QB?

The real issue is one tackle and any players career or season could be over. That's a steep price to pay if he gets Tom Brady(ed) in the first game.

The Bears improved at QB with this pickup but at what real cost? I personally think they overpaid by one 1st round draft pick.

I remember a RB being traded back in the day for two first rounders and two seconds, that still went on to play very well. If someone can do that for a RB, it should be ok, for a QB that can get the job done on offense. And in regards to the win-loss record. Sorry, he isnt a QB that plays on defense, and make tremendous plays there. He kicked the ass out of things on the offense though. I mean if he were playing defense like that too, then I wouldn't have minded if the Bears gave up double the picks for the guy. It would have been like having a the reincarnation of Jim Thorpe!!!

Speaking of reincarnations....Well, Snake's been hella entertained by this thread and I gotta say, it was hard to find fathom, but you may, just may be just slightly more dillusional AND angry than this guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcR7hr4LLQg

[Partial]

Maybe the reason is because the average NFL career is a little over 3 seasons per the NFLPA website.

Which makes your reasoning for draft picks that may never make it past 3 years versus a pro bowl Qb that has well established himself as a franchise a QB in in over 3 years just that much more illogical.

A QB with a losing career NFL record is now a franchise QB?

The real issue is one tackle and any players career or season could be over. That's a steep price to pay if he gets Tom Brady(ed) in the first game.

The Bears improved at QB with this pickup but at what real cost? I personally think they overpaid by one 1st round draft pick.

So the Pack don't have a franchise QB? And they overpaid for Rodgers by drafting him with a first round pick.

Dude, be realistic here. Cutler came at a pretty good price all things considered. Cutler cost slightly less than Jared Allen, and plays a more impactful position. Not a bad deal by any means imo.

[Waldo]

Allen cost:
#17 (950)
#73 (225)
#82 (180)

Aggregate - 1355, or #9 overall

Cutler and #140 (40) cost:
#18 (900)
2010 first (500 (1000 pts discounted 50% for the year wait))
#84 (170)
Kyle Orton

Aggregate - 1530, or #7 overall and Kyle Orton, a starting QB

[BEARMAN]

Cutler is a nice addition for the Bears, but he is not going to make the huge difference many Chicago fans believe. Orton was really looked down upon as mediocre, but in reality he was a very smart, workmanlike player who was greatly respected by his fellow players.
Cutler is going to be much more hit & miss, and I look forward to the first time he screws up (and that may well be opening night!) when radio hosts Doug Buffone, Ed O'Bradovich - and Bear Nation begins roasting their new savior.
Also : the lost draft choices are going to be hamstringing the Bears not only for the next two years, but longer, as they feel the effects of less quality roster additions.
Nothing to get overly concerned with in the NFC North; the Packers still look like the most balanced team.

Wake up an smell the rotted cheese ! Cutler is the best QB Da BEARS have had in 20 years. He has a cannon for an arm, is a gunslinger, (much like a soon forgotton farve) and is coming off a Pro Bowl year. With the off season verteran players and a few draft picks, Lovie going hands on, new "D"line coach, you packer fans have little to look forward to, but being swept by Da BEARS ! Da BEARS get off the bus running the ball, period. Now, you have to cover or get burnt deep ! We are no longer one dimentional, play action and the deep threat are alive and well in the windy city ! Stack the box and get burnt deep, cover and we run it up ur gut ! I LUV it !

[MJZiggy]

Cutler is the best QB Da BEARS have had in 20 years.

Considering the quarterbacks the Bears have had in the last 20 years, that's not saying much...

[Fritz]

Allen cost:
#17 (950)
#73 (225)
#82 (180)

Aggregate - 1355, or #9 overall

Cutler and #140 (40) cost:
#18 (900)
2010 first (500 (1000 pts discounted 50% for the year wait))
#84 (170)
Kyle Orton

Aggregate - 1530, or #7 overall and Kyle Orton, a starting QB

Given teh trade value chart, I'm not sure I see all that much difference. I suppose it depends upon what you think of Kyle Orton.

However, I would argue that devaluing next year's pick by 50% is too much. Maybe that's standard, I don't know, but when teams trade a pick for one from next year, that next year's pick is a round earlier most of the time. So if Thompson traded this year's fifth on draft day, he'd get next year's fourth.

And a year from now, when Denver is sitting on two first round picks, that 50% devaluation will certainly seem way too much. I don't think a one year wait devalues a pick quite that much.

[sheepshead]

The trade chart has been thrown out years ago.