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Originally posted by gex
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Gex, you make your point with Cutler. But Pace, at this point and time, is the definition of stop gap. He was signed only because St. Clair went to the Browns and Tait retired. That's two tackles down, one old guy signed on the O Line.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow. -
Wow!!
Was Partial instrumental in this trade or at least a part of it for Denver?
Sorry....Snake just got back from Las Vegas and just saw this first on here.
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Cutler is a nice addition for the Bears, but he is not going to make the huge difference many Chicago fans believe. Orton was really looked down upon as mediocre, but in reality he was a very smart, workmanlike player who was greatly respected by his fellow players.
Cutler is going to be much more hit & miss, and I look forward to the first time he screws up (and that may well be opening night!) when radio hosts Doug Buffone, Ed O'Bradovich - and Bear Nation begins roasting their new savior.
Also : the lost draft choices are going to be hamstringing the Bears not only for the next two years, but longer, as they feel the effects of less quality roster additions.
Nothing to get overly concerned with in the NFC North; the Packers still look like the most balanced team.Who Knows? The Shadow knows!Comment
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Agreed Shadow...Originally posted by The Shadow
Snake thinks Cutler will be an upgrade but at what cost..He has mental issues that only winning will solve. Also, he is kinda Favre-like as Cutler keeps saying he's Favre in many interviews over the past few years..I agree pick or TD..it's gonna happen...The only difference was a young Favre could win games...Cutler has a long ways to go. And oh ya, good point..Those 1st rounders will hamstring them for a few seasons. GOOD!!Snake's Twitter comments would be LEGENDARY.........if I was ugly or gave a shit about Twitter.Comment
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You're forgetting to "keep in mind" that Cutler also got to play four games a year against Oakland and Kansas City. Not exactly world-beaters there, wouldn't you agree??Originally posted by Packnut
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The Bears have signed 3 new O-linemen thisOriginally posted by pbmax
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And here is an article laying out how the new Bears line will look this year.
April 3, 2009
BY BRAD BIGGS bbiggs@suntimes.com
Talk about a huge day for the Bears' offense: A little more than an hour after trading for Pro Bowl quarterback Jay Cutler on Thursday, the Bears agreed to terms with Orlando Pace, a seven-time Pro Bowl left tackle, in a move that not only reshapes the line, but also likely changes general manager Jerry Angelo's draft plans.
If Pace can be as effective as Ruben Brown was when Brown re-energized his career with a move to the Bears, the offensive line just improved considerably.
Pace will sign a three-year contract and will start at left tackle, meaning 2008 first-round pick Chris Williams will have to stave off recently signed veteran Kevin Shaffer to claim a starting job at right tackle.
Pace, 33, missed 25 games over the last three seasons but started 14 last year for the St. Louis Rams and cleared a physical when he visited Halas Hall on Monday. Agent Kennard McGuire praised the visit, and it led to quick negotiations.
''He had a tremendous relationship with [coach Lovie Smith],'' McGuire said. ''That was an element.''
The Bears won out over the Baltimore Ravens, who initially pursued Pace when he was cut by the Rams last month and who had an offer on the table for more money. Pace apparently wanted to remain in the Midwest and felt comfortable with his relationship with Smith, the Rams' defensive coordinator for three seasons.
Pace is considered a better pass blocker than run blocker, and that will allow the Bears to get a better run blocker in Williams or Shaffer on the right side. The depth chart looks much different than it did when minicamp ended two weeks ago. Free-agent pickup Frank Omiyale, originally signed to play left guard, was working at right tackle with Williams on the left side. No backups were in place.
Now Omiyale can move back to left guard, where he will compete with Josh Beekman. Shaffer, who has 86 career starts, including time at left tackle with Atlanta and Cleveland, could be a well-paid swing tackle with a three-year, $8million contract.
Moving Williams to right tackle doesn't signal long-term plans to keep him there. Jonathan Ogden, an 11-time Pro Bowl left tackle, played right tackle in his first season with the Ravens. Jordan Gross was a right tackle in Carolina before last season, and he landed a deal with more than $30 million guaranteed from the Panthers. John Tait played both sides for the Bears and Kansas City Chiefs.
Pace will be able to take part in the voluntary offseason program, which begins Monday. Now the Bears must determine how his addition affects a draft that is short on picks after the Cutler deal.
The Bears cannot count on Pace for more than a year or two. That's the approach they took with Brown when they signed him to play left guard after eight Pro Bowl seasons in Buffalo. They got three solid seasons out of him, and he made one last trip to the Pro Bowl after the 2006 season.
Bears coaches and scouts have been working out a slew of offensive linemen and receivers in recent weeks, with more scheduled. Multiple sources say those are the positions the team is focusing on, and adding Pace doesn't eliminate the need for a young tackle, though he does give Angelo some flexibility that didn't exist previously.
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Snake is hardly quivering.. The Bears really really still suck.Originally posted by DabaddestbearSnake's Twitter comments would be LEGENDARY.........if I was ugly or gave a shit about Twitter.Comment
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No, a young Favre had a very good defense to back him up. The guy is 25! He have done what he did on a team that ranked in the bottom of the league in almost every defensive category. Brett was never in that position in his heyday.Originally posted by SnakeLH2006Comment
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The best roster additions for the Bears over the past several years have come from 2nd round picks and later. And you speak as if they mortgaged their future in the trade. They gave up 3 picks over two years and got 1 back. They still have 8 picks in this years draft alone!!Originally posted by The Shadow
Better yet, tell me how have the first round picks over the past years been for the Bears, and after that tell me how any of them equal to the value of a franchise QB?
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HAHAHA..Snake throws this BS shit sideways, craps on it, and doesn't look back..Originally posted by Dabaddestbear
Not only is Cutler not a young Favre as far as physical ability stats/game winning ways..his D was not the Packer Super Bowl shit in his first 2 seasons it took 4 to 5 years to get there....The Bear D is far better now. WTF are you talking about. IF CUTLER CAN'T DO IT NOW...he NEVER WILL...and not only that, he's a TO media cancer that Denver couldn't WAIT TO GET RID OF. Good luck yo with that mess.Snake's Twitter comments would be LEGENDARY.........if I was ugly or gave a shit about Twitter.Comment
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Man are you even reading the post before responding?Originally posted by SnakeLH2006
It was suggested in comparison to Cutler not winning as Brett did in his first 3 years...SO I REPLIED..No, a young Favre had a very good defense to back him up. Now of course he wasnt referring to him being on the Bears winning yet, cuz he haven't taken a snap for the Bears yet! Man I like it better when the sane more logical Packer fans are woke and debating me.
And who cares if he is a media cancer, his teammates loved him! This was the first time you ever even heard of him getting upset. Please tell me how this compares to T.O. over all his years? ...better yet, please dont. I dont think I can waste more brain cells with this one tonight. Time will tell buddy.Comment
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Snake could be drunk on a coke binge with hookers before he could reply to you. You've never said shit that resembles logic on ANY post on PR.Originally posted by DabaddestbearMan are you even reading the post before responding?Originally posted by SnakeLH2006
It was suggested in comparison to Cutler not winning as Brett did in his first 3 years...SO I REPLIED..No, a young Favre had a very good defense to back him up. Now of course he wasnt referring to him being on the Bears winning yet, cuz he haven't taken a snap for the Bears yet! Man I like it better when the sane more logical Packer fans are woke and debating me.
And who cares if he is a media cancer, his teammates loved him! This was the first time you ever even heard of him getting upset. Please tell me how this compares to T.O. over all his years? ...better yet, please dont. I dont think I can waste more brain cells with the 10 year olds tonight. Go to bed please before mommy catches you on her PC.
Who cares if he's a media cancer? Well I do. I'd take ARod before that showboating SOB Cutler anyday...And if you think he's your answer, good luck. I'm happy though, that you think he's the answer, as I and many many have many good things to say to you player. Cutler is a downfall for your team....just wait till you have no good picks in the next few years and Cutler is crying cuz you have no weapons. Good luck with that.Snake's Twitter comments would be LEGENDARY.........if I was ugly or gave a shit about Twitter.Comment
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He is a Bear troll. Bear trolls don't know the meaning of the word logic.Originally posted by SnakeLH2006Comment
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If that really is the case; I suggest the Bears "give" the Packers their 1st round pick every year because the Bears suck at it. Not one GM in the league would rather have an extra 5th round pick for a 1st. This years draft is very deep and has the potential for a very good top 50+ picks. I'm glad the Bears will only have one pick in that window.Originally posted by DabaddestbearThe best roster additions for the Bears over the past several years have come from 2nd round picks and later. And you speak as if they mortgaged their future in the trade. They gave up 3 picks over two years and got 1 back. They still have 8 picks in this years draft alone!!Originally posted by The Shadow
Better yet, tell me how have the first round picks over the past years been for the Bears, and after that tell me how any of them equal to the value of a franchise QB?
Would you give up Greg Olsen, Tommie Harris and Brian Urlacher?
How about Willie Gault, the fridge, Jim McMahon or Walter Payton from the past?
Yeah, those first rounders suck!!!But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
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This guys a tool part 12:
Mike Mulligan of the Chicago Sun Times reports the Browns might have won the sweepstakes for Jay Cutler had his agent, Bus Cook, not also represented Brett Favre. The longtime Packers star didn't mesh last year with Jets coach Eric Mangini, who was fired and landed in Cleveland. Mangini reportedly was willing to give up Brady Quinn in a deal for Cutler. Quinn, who played for former Patriots offensive coordinator Charlie Weis at Notre Dame, might have been a good fit in McDaniels' system. But Cook made it clear when talks began that Cutler wanted no part of Mangini, and fears that he wouldn't report to the Browns shut down that deal.
Looking more like Jeff George every day.Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967Comment
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