Excellent Analysis on Rodgers

[PlantPage55]

What makes us crazy is folks like Partial just automatically think AR has hit his ceiling. He thinks he's not going to get any better and that is just nonsense. There is no way in hell he can know this unless his 8-ball told him so. No one can predict the future. Will AR fall on his face next year or will he be even better? NOBODY KNOWS. Sheesh.

But it's a "valid" point that you can't really dispute.

[Freak Out]

What would you folks do with out Partial? He is the weeble of PackerRats.

[Bretsky]

I will say this, where is all this Favre hate coming from. The way some of you talk on this forum, it is like Favre was a below average player for the 17 years he was in Green Bay.

I guess if the only way you all can feel better about Favre being gone is to trash the guy and fail to remember him or speak of the good things he did on and off the football field then all means carry on, otherwise to argue against Partial(?) or who ever by trashing Favre is just a bit disappointing.

[Bretsky]

I agree that that was a pretty dumb statement. I don't think one could argue, though, that the offense from '08 was anything more than a small subset of the '07 attack.

As Nutz and I have posted so many times, they really kept things pretty simple for A-Rod, and didn't use the entire field to make his life easier.

It never ceases to amaze me how some of you jump on an erroneous interpretation of a statement or statements, and harp on it until it reaches a life of its own.

You do know Adrian Barbre punched a coach last spring at practice, don't you Patler???

What I cant figure out is how Partial keeps baiting people into debating him. I know its hard to resist sometimes but damn this is getting old. You'll never change his mind on a single topic.

Well, maybe if TT would sign some FA, we have something to talk about making it easier to ignore Partial.

Hey, he signed some quality free agents....well.......like four years ago or something

[Bretsky]

patler, you were rolling until you put Ferguson's name on that list...dude, you know you're going to get smoked on that one...

I would be curious as to why you included Noah Herron.

Actually, I was wondering who would be noted first, Ferguson or "Alligator Arms" Bill Schroeder!

Truth be told, I just took the top few names off the list of receivers each year, and guys like Ferguson, Herron, Fisher etc. showed up!

With some of the crap you flopped on there I'm surprise you didn't put Taco Wallace on there

[Bretsky]

I had an intense day at work; I'd just like to thank everybody who gave me some entertainment in this thread

Cheers,
B

[Patler]

patler, you were rolling until you put Ferguson's name on that list...dude, you know you're going to get smoked on that one...

I would be curious as to why you included Noah Herron.

Actually, I was wondering who would be noted first, Ferguson or "Alligator Arms" Bill Schroeder!

Truth be told, I just took the top few names off the list of receivers each year, and guys like Ferguson, Herron, Fisher etc. showed up!

With some of the crap you flopped on there I'm surprise you didn't put Taco Wallace on there

All I did was list the top skilled position players from each season. I wasn't suggesting they were all great players. I asked others to identify which of those seasons were ones in which Favre had little to work with, since some have suggested he frequently had a poor supporting cast.

Sure some years were deeper in talent than others, but I think the list shows that most years he had at least a few decent players to work with.

That is all the list was intended to show.

[mraynrand]

One final word on the thread title. I just finished watching all the games from the past season. The guy that Rodgers reminds me most of is actually Joe Montana. Rodgers probably is just a bit better all around athletically than Joe and Joe of course had 'the knack' (a lot like Brady does), but damn if Rodgers didn't run the offense - for long stretches - with the efficiency that Montana did. If Rodgers continues to improve, as he should, I see great things ahead for Rodgers and the Packers.

[PlantPage55]

If Rodgers continues to improve, as he should, I see great things ahead for Rodgers and the Packers.

That's just it. Partial doesn't believe he can improve significantly, but I submit that no matter how much you prepare, there are certain things about the game that you can ONLY get from experience PLAYING.

Sense of the pass rush...the time you have to throw the ball...faking defenders...making stuff up on the fly...building team chemistry, respect, and confidence in the face of a real defense. The list goes on and on.

[Partial]

I don't know how much I buy that. Sure, you'll improve to some degree in those regards, but look at A-Rod year 1 to year 3. He developed all of those qualities during that time.

Look at him in preseason year 3 to week 17 of year 4.. Was their any difference? Not really.

The biggest benefit to young, developing players in the off-season and getting bigger, faster, stronger, and taking time to learn a system in the case of the QB so they can react instead of think.

A-Rod is now big and strong, and reacting instead of thinking. I don't know how much we can reasonably expect a vet like A-Rod to improve at this point.

Anyone have any knowledge of QBs greatly improving after 4 years?

[mraynrand]

Anyone have any knowledge of QBs greatly improving after 4 years?

My mind's a blank

[packers11]

haha mraynrand... I'll add a couple of more

[Bossman641]

Wait, scratch that

[Freak Out]

Wait, scratch that

Awesome.

[mraynrand]

I love that pic so much, I thought I'd post it again.