The official 2009 DRAFT thread

[Rastak]

Scouts inc ranks the S's......


Louis Delmas 
Rashad Johnson
William Moore
Patrick Chung 
Chip Vaughn
Darcel McBath
C.J. Spillman
Chris Clemons
Emanuel Cook
Michael Hamlin
Derek Pegues
Courtney Greene
David Bruton 
Curtis Taylor
Glover Quin
Otis Wiley 
Troy Nolan 
Jamarca Sanford
Kevin Akins
Lendy Holmes
Nate Ness
Marcus McClinton 
Anthony Reddick
Keith Fitzhugh
Josh Pinkard
Trimane Goddard
Randy Phillips
Al Afalava
Reshard Langford
Terence Moore
Anthony Scirrotto
Justin Garrett
Eric Thatcher
Merrill Johnson
Dre'Mail Hardin
Alton Dixon
Colt Anderson
Allen Nelson
Charles Byrd
Byron Glaspt
De'von Hall
Ricky Price
Glen Lee
Adrian Aye-Darko
Daniel Verpaele
William Dunbar
Ryan Walters
Mesphin Forrester
Devin Gregg
Sha'reff Rashad
Bryan Payton
Tavares Williams
Archie Reed
Darius McClure 
Jason Venson
Quinton Moore
Kenneth Fontenette
Marshall McDuffie
Torri Williams
Kevin Patterson
Carlton Williams
James Neal
Robert Wilson
Brandon Harrison 
Charles Wilson
Nicholas Schommer
Brandon Gathof
Rod Jones
Brandon Echols
Marcus Haywood 
Tyrrell Herbert
Andrew Mack
Thomas Nelson
Bradley Pruitt
Ryan Greiser
Eric Johnson
Jacob Wyatt
Bryan Williams
Jim Johnson

[RashanGary]

Here's my top 32



1. BJ Raji
2. Jason Smith
3. Eugene Monroe
4. Andre Smith (might be undraftable because of character, but great player)
5. Matthew Stafford (never know with QB's, but if they pan out it's better than any other pick)
6. Mark Sanchez (same as Stafford)
7. Tyson Jackson
8. Aaron Curry
9. Knoshown Moreno
10. Malcolm Jenkins
11. Michael Crabtree
12. Michael Oher
13. Evander Hood
14. Donald Brown
15. Eben Britton
16. Louis Delmas
17. Alex Mack
18. Alphonso Smith
19. Brian Orakpo
20. Everette Brown
21. Aaron Maybin
22. Kenny Britt
23. James Laurinatis
24. Connor Barwin
25. Eric Wood
26. Percy Harvin
27. Brandon Pettigrew
28. Rey Maualuga
29. Chris Wells
30. DJ Moore
31. Antoine Caldwell
32. Josh Freeman

[LL2]

Should TT take a deal from the Pats. Would you take a lower 1st rd pick plus another 2nd rd pick? That would give GB 5 picks in the 1st three rds. I say yes....increase the odds of lading more better players.

07:22 AM ET 04.25 SHARE PRINT IT MY T&R
The Patriots are trying to move up into the top 10 of the draft -- but low in the top 10. Executives from two teams tell me New England offered its first-round pick and middle of three second-round picks (the 23rd and 47th picks overall) to Jacksonville for the eighth pick in the draft. Jacksonville GM Gene Smith, I'm told, said no ... but I also hear the Patriots might be looking to Green Bay at nine to move as well. Who might be the object of their affection? I'm told it may be a surprise, because smart money would say the target is LSU's Tyson Jackson, the best 3-4 defensive end in the draft and the only end versatile enough to play every spot on the defensive line. But I'm not sure it's Jackson. I think it might be an offensive player. Sorry to be so cryptic, but I truly don't know.

SI.com

[Packnut]

Crabtree

Woke up with a sick feeling in my gut this morning. Found out why after reading McGinn. I sure hope someone is blowing smoke cause if Crabtree is the highest rated player on Teddy's board, then we truly are in serious trouble.

Anyone with half a cup of football IQ knows the Red Raiders WR's do not run Pro style Routes on a consistent basis. Crabtree is the result of a sysytem-one that does not and will never work in the Pros. Unless MM is gonna run 5 wide 75% of the time, Crabby is a bad fit.

Why would you draft a guy who did'nt play in a Pro style offense? It's freakin insane! Not to mention this fool's character. Word is the GM's who did interview him were not happy with his "self involved love".

[Bretsky]

CRABTREE
CRABTREE
CRABTREE
CRABTREE

[Rastak]

One NFL radio dude said the Diva reports were a crock of shit. I wish I could remember who it was but he essentially said that he'd spoken to him several times and the dude isn't in the least a diva. He said if you want any confirmation on his ability watch film and see the fact he catches everything thrown his way.

Now Percy Harvin, he's a more self involved cat. I also hope he drops to 22!

[pack4to84]

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[packrulz]

Should TT take a deal from the Pats. Would you take a lower 1st rd pick plus another 2nd rd pick? That would give GB 5 picks in the 1st three rds. I say yes....increase the odds of lading more better players.

07:22 AM ET 04.25 SHARE PRINT IT MY T&R
The Patriots are trying to move up into the top 10 of the draft -- but low in the top 10. Executives from two teams tell me New England offered its first-round pick and middle of three second-round picks (the 23rd and 47th picks overall) to Jacksonville for the eighth pick in the draft. Jacksonville GM Gene Smith, I'm told, said no ... but I also hear the Patriots might be looking to Green Bay at nine to move as well. Who might be the object of their affection? I'm told it may be a surprise, because smart money would say the target is LSU's Tyson Jackson, the best 3-4 defensive end in the draft and the only end versatile enough to play every spot on the defensive line. But I'm not sure it's Jackson. I think it might be an offensive player. Sorry to be so cryptic, but I truly don't know.

SI.com

Yes, trade down, I'd be thrilled!

[Gunakor]

CRABTREE
CRABTREE
CRABTREE
CRABTREE

Wouldn't be too terribly upset if he were the pick, but there are other guys I'd like to have more than that. If Raji, J. Smith, A. Smith, Curry and Jackson are all gone before our pick, then Crabtree is bound to still be there so that's a no brainer. But, with one QB gone already and the Rams looking to nab Sanchez at #2, that doesn't seem likely. If Crabtree makes it past Seattle, I don't think he makes it past Oakland.

Raji might just be there for us after all.

[packrulz]

Re: Crabtree

Woke up with a sick feeling in my gut this morning. Found out why after reading McGinn. I sure hope someone is blowing smoke cause if Crabtree is the highest rated player on Teddy's board, then we truly are in serious trouble.

Anyone with half a cup of football IQ knows the Red Raiders WR's do not run Pro style Routes on a consistent basis. Crabtree is the result of a sysytem-one that does not and will never work in the Pros. Unless MM is gonna run 5 wide 75% of the time, Crabby is a bad fit.

Why would you draft a guy who did'nt play in a Pro style offense? It's freakin insane! Not to mention this fool's character. Word is the GM's who did interview him were not happy with his "self involved love".

Have you ever seen him play? McShay says he's the most complete, legitimate #1 WR in the draft.

[sheepshead]

I lean offense for a top 10 pick. For the money, unless you have the next reggie white, it just makes sense. There's no way in hell any civilian knows who's on the top of TT's list however.

[packrulz]

TT would have to think pretty hard about Eugene Monroe or Crabtree if they slip, Sanchez's stock is soaring, he might go as high as #2, this is good for TT, other players will slip. Here's some rumors: http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/04/24/qb-r...-trade-rumors/

[Fritz]

Should TT take a deal from the Pats. Would you take a lower 1st rd pick plus another 2nd rd pick? That would give GB 5 picks in the 1st three rds. I say yes....increase the odds of lading more better players.

07:22 AM ET 04.25 SHARE PRINT IT MY T&R
The Patriots are trying to move up into the top 10 of the draft -- but low in the top 10. Executives from two teams tell me New England offered its first-round pick and middle of three second-round picks (the 23rd and 47th picks overall) to Jacksonville for the eighth pick in the draft. Jacksonville GM Gene Smith, I'm told, said no ... but I also hear the Patriots might be looking to Green Bay at nine to move as well. Who might be the object of their affection? I'm told it may be a surprise, because smart money would say the target is LSU's Tyson Jackson, the best 3-4 defensive end in the draft and the only end versatile enough to play every spot on the defensive line. But I'm not sure it's Jackson. I think it might be an offensive player. Sorry to be so cryptic, but I truly don't know.

SI.com

Yes, trade down, I'd be thrilled!

As I posted yesterday, this deal makes little sense from the "point value" perspective. The #9 pick is worth 1350 points, but the Patriots' offer totals only 1130 or so points. To even it up, the Pats would either have to throw in another pick - a third rounder - or make the offer their first plus the #34 pick.

Just say no, Ted. Don't do it unless the Pats ante up.

[pack4to84]

Rumor Post
Randolph Hiedler

Ok this is what I have heard this evening:

Thompson is going to be looking at getting a starter in the first round. I have heard about names that top two different groups on the draft board from what has been observed over the last week.

Group A (note that these are only the names that were talked about heavily and not all of them):

Orapko
Raji
Wells
Jackson
Crabtree

Group B:

Jenkins
Brace
Coffman
Oher
English

Several potential trades have been worked out:

1. Dolphins
2. Patriots
3. Eagles
4. Giants

Also Driver, Harris, and Kampman have came up as names for draft day trade bait.

[Bretsky]

CRABTREE
CRABTREE
CRABTREE
CRABTREE

Wouldn't be too terribly upset if he were the pick, but there are other guys I'd like to have more than that. If Raji, J. Smith, A. Smith, Curry and Jackson are all gone before our pick, then Crabtree is bound to still be there so that's a no brainer. But, with one QB gone already and the Rams looking to nab Sanchez at #2, that doesn't seem likely. If Crabtree makes it past Seattle, I don't think he makes it past Oakland.

Raji might just be there for us after all.

Of those picks I'd be very fine with Curry; I'm alright with the others but they don't excite me nearly as much as the Crab. They are examples of need over BPA

Many think Oakland wants one of those OT's