The official 2009 Day Two DRAFT thread

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Seifert's Blog


Packers pick probably projects as a guard

Am I the only one who's tired of trying to convert tackles who can't play NFL tackle to guards? What's wrong with drafting a damn guard to play guard???

I know there's a lot of reasons. A lot of college guards don't have the athleticism to play in the NFL at all. The guys with better feet and hands tend to play tackle in college. But there's something to say for drafting a guy built like a fire hydrant.

i'm with ya

i'm sick of moving all these guys around all the time too. put them in a spot and leave them there to learn that spot

[Bretsky]

since tt is in a dealing mood he needs to give up one of the fives and one of the sixes to get another four.

remember pre draft as most felt there were many hybrid DL who could make that switch to OLB in the 3-4

Use those picks to take some flyers on those guys, grab a FB, P

Not sure there are any no brainers to trade up for now

[Rastak]

Eagles just traded for Hobbs,,,,gave up 2 5's.

[Charles Woodson]

what area do you think TT will address next?

[Lurker64]

i'm sick of moving all these guys around all the time too. put them in a spot and leave them there to learn that spot

We're apparently going to stop trying to teach people nineteen positions on the OL, but that's not an argument really for not drafting Ts to play G.

[HarveyWallbangers]

At this point, I'm not enamored with picking an OT. They all look like developmental picks and none look like starters. We have several developmental OL as it is. I'm okay with RB, TE, OT, DE, CB, or P at this point.

throw some of the names from your wishlist out there

Some good players left IMO

Actually, what I meant was: some people seemed to want an OT only, as if that guy would fill our starting RT need. At this point, I don't expect any player to be a starter year one. I say get BPA at one of the positions I listed. I have no idea about Lang. Maybe he was. Is Mike Mickens or Kevin Barnes still available? I saw Sammie Lee Hill is gone.

[wist43]

Seifert's Blog


Packers pick probably projects as a guard

Am I the only one who's tired of trying to convert tackles who can't play NFL tackle to guards? What's wrong with drafting a damn guard to play guard???

I know there's a lot of reasons. A lot of college guards don't have the athleticism to play in the NFL at all. The guys with better feet and hands tend to play tackle in college. But there's something to say for drafting a guy built like a fire hydrant.

MM even alluded to the fact that they keep moving guys all over the place as a reason why the OL is such a mess... but, then in the next breath, he says they value "versatility".

I'm with ya, draft a freakin G, and play him at G, draft a freakin C, and play him at C, draft a freakin OT, and play him OT... geez.

[RashanGary]

I'm surprised Sidbury is still on the board, I would have thought he'd go in teh second or third. Is he that raw and/or bad against the run?

Complete guess here, but I'm guessing he can handle rushing the passer and playing the run as a rush linebacker. I'm guessing teams think he can't cover worth a lick. Just a guess.

Maybe 4-3 teams think he's just too small to put on the line.

[Bretsky]

At this point, I'm not enamored with picking an OT. They all look like developmental picks and none look like starters. We have several developmental OL as it is. I'm okay with RB, TE, OT, DE, CB, or P at this point.

throw some of the names from your wishlist out there

Some good players left IMO

Actually, what I meant was: some people seemed to want an OT only, as if that guy would fill our starting RT need. At this point, I don't expect any player to be a starter year one. I say get BPA at one of the positions I listed. I have no idea about Lang. Maybe he was. Is Mike Mickens or Kevin Barnes still available? I saw Sammie Lee Hill is gone.

pretty sure Mickens is still out there; think Barnes is as well

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is chris baker still around?

he's a nice big body that could play DE or NT

[Fosco33]

I'm surprised Sidbury is still on the board, I would have thought he'd go in teh second or third. Is he that raw and/or bad against the run?

Complete guess here, but I'm guessing he can handle rushing the passer and playing the run as a rush linebacker. I'm guessing teams think he can't cover worth a lick. Just a guess.

Maybe 4-3 teams think he's just too small to put on the line.

I'd be lovin sidbury @145.

[Fosco33]

Meredith is still out there - whats his scoop?

[Joemailman]

I'm surprised Sidbury is still on the board, I would have thought he'd go in teh second or third. Is he that raw and/or bad against the run?

Complete guess here, but I'm guessing he can handle rushing the passer and playing the run as a rush linebacker. I'm guessing teams think he can't cover worth a lick. Just a guess.

Maybe 4-3 teams think he's just too small to put on the line.

I'd be lovin sidbury @145.

Atlanta took Sidbury.

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king from iowa is still around. 3-4 de

[Carolina_Packer]

is chris baker still around?
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he's a nice big body that could play DE or NT

I was looking up the kid from Eastern Michigan and saw some of the other prospects available on the OL and found this guy from LSU...read his profile.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2009/profiles/herman-johnson?id=71347

...he's still the biggest baby ever born in Louisiana! That's funny that the doctor still calls his mom to let him know. He's a big guy, but he can move, so he may still fit in a ZBS if his footwork is ok; looked like his lateral agility is pretty good (there's a little video piece on him). I don't think we should be done with OL picks...it was a weak spot overall last year; Rodgers was running for his life at times.