Breaking News on Brett Favre!

[Lurker64]

Per PFT (via the Yahoo Sports Editor): No X-Rays were sent.

[MJZiggy]

Per packerrats.com, It's not my problem and I just don't care anymore (except to laugh at the people whose problem it now is...

[Fritz]

I have a question:

If Favre retired and filed his papers, the Jets did not have to cut him in order to clear cap space, right? I mean, he was retired, papers filed, so he wouldn't have counted against the cap. Is that correct?

If this is so, why would Favre asked to be cut? If it's not so, then why wouldn't the Jets have cut him so they wouldn't have to save cap space?

[pbmax]

If Favre retired and filed his papers, the Jets did not have to cut him in order to clear cap space, right?

Correct.

I mean, he was retired, papers filed, so he wouldn't have counted against the cap. Is that correct?

Correct. Although, the moment they moved him to reserved/retired, his number came off the cap, he didn't need to file paperwork, but he did if I recall correctly.

If this is so, why would Favre asked to be cut?

No one knows. But the Yahoo! Sports Editor who spent the weekend defending their report to PFT that the Favre-Viking connection will not happen, mentioned that his belief is that Bus Cook is talking to ESPN and NFL.com, not Favre. It could be a move by Cook to coax his client to play again.

If it's not so, then why wouldn't the Jets have cut him so they wouldn't have to save cap space?

Both Tannenbaum and Ryan said they wanted him back publicly. Tannenbaum called Favre, but who knows what they said. They either believed his retirement or wanted to prepare for the future, as they paid quite a price to move up to get Sanchez in the draft.

But Favre could have put the Jets in a pickle if, now after drafting Sanchez, he unretired. Because they would have to scramble like Zool mentioned. Plus soothe Sanchez, and deal with the potential drama for the summer.

I agree that it would have been a tight fit. But I am not so sure they wouldn't have taken him back if he was committed and had his arm taken care of early. But with Brett, just because you would like it that way, doesn't mean its going to happen.

[Fritz]

Thanks, PB.

[PackerBlues]

If Favre retired and filed his papers, the Jets did not have to cut him in order to clear cap space, right?

Correct.

I mean, he was retired, papers filed, so he wouldn't have counted against the cap. Is that correct?

Correct. Although, the moment they moved him to reserved/retired, his number came off the cap, he didn't need to file paperwork, but he did if I recall correctly.

If this is so, why would Favre asked to be cut?

No one knows. But the Yahoo! Sports Editor who spent the weekend defending their report to PFT that the Favre-Viking connection will not happen, mentioned that his belief is that Bus Cook is talking to ESPN and NFL.com, not Favre. It could be a move by Cook to coax his client to play again.

If it's not so, then why wouldn't the Jets have cut him so they wouldn't have to save cap space?

Both Tannenbaum and Ryan said they wanted him back publicly. Tannenbaum called Favre, but who knows what they said. They either believed his retirement or wanted to prepare for the future, as they paid quite a price to move up to get Sanchez in the draft.

But Favre could have put the Jets in a pickle if, now after drafting Sanchez, he unretired. Because they would have to scramble like Zool mentioned. Plus soothe Sanchez, and deal with the potential drama for the summer.

I agree that it would have been a tight fit. But I am not so sure they wouldn't have taken him back if he was committed and had his arm taken care of early. But with Brett, just because you would like it that way, doesn't mean its going to happen.

my guess is that if Favre would have retired without being released, a return to the NFL would have been impossible without going through the Jets. In other words, the Jets would have been in control of where Favre went, and not Brett. Its very possible that the whole thing with the Jets (behind closed doors anyway) was always just supposed to be a one year deal to help sell tickets.

[hoosier]

If Favre retired and filed his papers, the Jets did not have to cut him in order to clear cap space, right?

Correct.

I mean, he was retired, papers filed, so he wouldn't have counted against the cap. Is that correct?

Correct. Although, the moment they moved him to reserved/retired, his number came off the cap, he didn't need to file paperwork, but he did if I recall correctly.

If this is so, why would Favre asked to be cut?



No one knows. But the Yahoo! Sports Editor who spent the weekend defending their report to PFT that the Favre-Viking connection will not happen, mentioned that his belief is that Bus Cook is talking to ESPN and NFL.com, not Favre. It could be a move by Cook to coax his client to play again.

If it's not so, then why wouldn't the Jets have cut him so they wouldn't have to save cap space?

Both Tannenbaum and Ryan said they wanted him back publicly. Tannenbaum called Favre, but who knows what they said. They either believed his retirement or wanted to prepare for the future, as they paid quite a price to move up to get Sanchez in the draft.

But Favre could have put the Jets in a pickle if, now after drafting Sanchez, he unretired. Because they would have to scramble like Zool mentioned. Plus soothe Sanchez, and deal with the potential drama for the summer.

I agree that it would have been a tight fit. But I am not so sure they wouldn't have taken him back if he was committed and had his arm taken care of early. But with Brett, just because you would like it that way, doesn't mean its going to happen.

my guess is that if Favre would have retired without being released, a return to the NFL would have been impossible without going through the Jets. In other words, the Jets would have been in control of where Favre went, and not Brett. Its very possible that the whole thing with the Jets (behind closed doors anyway) was always just supposed to be a one year deal to help sell tickets.

If the Jets hadn't released Favre and he decided to unretire, then the team would be forced to either pay his contract or cut him. In that sense the Jets might be technically in control of where Favre goes, but Favre also has a large degree of control because he knows the Jets don't want to pay his $12M salary given their cap situation as well as the well known uncertainties surrounding Favre's physical health and his commitment to playing. So if he unretires the Jets almost have to cut him.

[retailguy]

You can't ignore the fact that the Jets may have just not wanted to endure the "will he, won't he crap" that has floated around for years.

Favre said he didn't want to play, he didn't have surgery, he told Tannenbaum (reportedly) that he didn't want to play.

The Jets might have released him, simply because they didn't want to deal with the circus that is sure to come this summer.

In the end, I think Favre plays, if the Vikings assure him he'll start. He's close to Bruce Matthews consecutive game streak and I think that record means more to him than he cares to admit.

[Chevelle2]

http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/44718707.html

[Fritz]

I'm learning that the key to understanding the ins and outs of any Favre situation have to do with the little things, the snippets. Earlier it was the nearly infamous "At this time." In the link above, the Vikes' representative (I can never get that name straight - Wygli? Wigliff?) said to reporters - when they asked if indeed Favre had called the Vikings to let them know he was staying retired - that they'd have to check with Favre to confirm that.

So...why couldn't the guy say "Yes, Favre did call us and let us know he intends to remain retired." Or "No, Favre never called us," or "Yes, he called, but the nature of that call is private."

Why tell reporters they'd have to check with Favre? Are people near or in the situation afraid to say what Favre has or hasn't done?

Just weird.

[Merlin]

Knowing Brett, if he's coming back, he'll be ready.


He feels slighted by the Packers (Thompson and McCarthy in particular). He's absolutely NOT going to come into the division to be embarrassed. The Vikings have a pretty great team, minus the QB.

It's going to be a tough fight. Either way it will be entertaining, but everyone knows I have a dislike toward Favre. I really want the Packers to get the best of him.

It won't matter who the QB is if they don't have the WR's to do the job. Last season, without Peterson, what did they have on offense? I sure didn't see anything outside of the running game that was that scary. Favre at his age needs to have at least a little talent to work with.

[Scott Campbell]

Knowing Brett, if he's coming back, he'll be ready.


He feels slighted by the Packers (Thompson and McCarthy in particular). He's absolutely NOT going to come into the division to be embarrassed. The Vikings have a pretty great team, minus the QB.

It's going to be a tough fight. Either way it will be entertaining, but everyone knows I have a dislike toward Favre. I really want the Packers to get the best of him.

It won't matter who the QB is if they don't have the WR's to do the job. Last season, without Peterson, what did they have on offense? I sure didn't see anything outside of the running game that was that scary. Favre at his age needs to have at least a little talent to work with.

I'd still rate the Viking receivers well ahead of the Bear receivers - marginal vs. truly awful.

[cpk1994]

Kindo of funny how no media outlet is reporting this. Not even Florio. I guess what I am saying is Pete, either porovide proof or STFU troll.

Good daily double here. Wrong and profane. Nice post.

yup; pure crap to go into attack mode right away.

Do you live in the sticks, cpk ? All of the
Milwaukee channel's sports news last night
carried news on the Packers, as well as on
later reports. I think ESPN presents it
every 15 minutes or thereabouts, don't they ???

You might want to read the whole thread which contains my explanation. At the time of that post, NOBODY was reporting it. It was almost an hour later by the time it showed up on the mainstream internet sites.

[Pacopete4]

Kindo of funny how no media outlet is reporting this. Not even Florio. I guess what I am saying is Pete, either porovide proof or STFU troll.

Good daily double here. Wrong and profane. Nice post.

yup; pure crap to go into attack mode right away.

Do you live in the sticks, cpk ? All of the
Milwaukee channel's sports news last night
carried news on the Packers, as well as on
later reports. I think ESPN presents it
every 15 minutes or thereabouts, don't they ???

You might want to read the whole thread which contains my explanation. At the time of that post, NOBODY was reporting it. It was almost an hour later by the time it showed up on the mainstream internet sites.

turn on a TV next time then..

[Packers4Ever]

I thought the surgery story was that he had gone under for some minor thing once and gone into convulsions on the table. Avoids it like the plague after that.

I've always read that he suffered much pain following that
auto accident in 1990 (?) requiring surgeon to remove
30" of intestine, I think that was the beginning of the
extreme fear of pain, but he was just a kid then, who
could blame him?