Favorite duds and disappointments

[Rastak]

Wanted to see Ferguson make a big comeback after the clothesline hit in 2004.

A comeback ???????????/ That implies he was something before the hit

Instead of returning to suck, he came back to sucked more

I got a chance to watch him as a 3rd/4th receiver with the Vikings and he throws a mean downfield block. That's about the best I can do defending the guy. He does hustle and hit guys but ain't open all that often. Dude does have alot of pride and certainly seemed to play hard....he just isn't that great.

[Bretsky]

R-Cal Truluck was a horrible trade and a colossial dud no mwtter who the GM was. Perspective was very crydtal clear on that one.

You are missing the point. The point was you spent so much time "bashing" others I didn't even "see" you had an opinion. (You typically don't).

Now, about your opinion.

As I recall, we obtained Truluck with 5th and 6th round picks at a position of NEED. (Pass rusher). We got him with picks from Oakland for Marques Anderson, so they weren't really "our" picks. (though picking draft picks would probably have been better....)

Truluck had his best season as a pro in 2003 registering 5 sacks in a part time role with Kansas City. He was young, and inexperienced with that "tangible upside" you seem to value so much.

Did it work out? Nope. Does it look silly today? Sure, with the benefit of hindsight. At the time, there was legitimate possibility...

I remember being a little bit giddy about Truluck when that move was made. He did look okay when playing for the Chiefs the year before, so I was happy with the move.

Even considering hindsight, you have to remember who was drafting for us at the time. There's no guarantee Sherman's 5th and 6th round draft picks would be any better either.

Nothing is guaranteed

But just a thought

Has TTT ever delivered anything close to Mike Sherman's best 5th round draft choice ?

[channtheman]

You know I was always disappointed when Samkon Gado got hurt. He was really fun to watch and he was having a great season other than his inability to hold onto the ball. I thought if he hadn't gotten hurt he would have had a chance for 1000 yards and then maybe he would have kept playing for the Packers instead of whatever he did after he got injured. It's amazing how little that margin for error is.

[Rastak]

You know I was always disappointed when Samkon Gado got hurt. He was really fun to watch and he was having a great season other than his inability to hold onto the ball. I thought if he hadn't gotten hurt he would have had a chance for 1000 yards and then maybe he would have kept playing for the Packers instead of whatever he did after he got injured. It's amazing how little that margin for error is.

Plus he was a great story, so you have to root for a guy like that.

[Bretsky]

Mandarich is obvious
Ditto for Buckley
Ditto for Derrick Mayes


BUT..........FRANKIE NEAL

I thought that guy was going to be the real deal

What the hell ever happened to Frankie Neal ?

[Joemailman]

Ah yes, Frankie Neal...promising player who showed up at training camp his 2nd year about 20 pounds overweight. He said his problem with Green Bay was "I'm a ladies man, and there aren't any ladies in Green Bay."

[Rastak]

Ah yes, Frankie Neal...promising player who showed up at training camp his 2nd year about 20 pounds overweight. He said his problem with Green Bay was "I'm a ladies man, and there aren't any ladies in Green Bay."

Did the ladies kick his ass as he left?

[Joemailman]

I'm not sure if he was still in Green Bay when he said it.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Ah yes, Frankie Neal...promising player who showed up at training camp his 2nd year about 20 pounds overweight. He said his problem with Green Bay was "I'm a ladies man, and there aren't any ladies in Green Bay."

Ty is similar to Frankie, cept that he is happy when there aren't any ladies.

Ty prefers his women fast, loose, and easy.

[Gunakor]

R-Cal Truluck was a horrible trade and a colossial dud no mwtter who the GM was. Perspective was very crydtal clear on that one.

You are missing the point. The point was you spent so much time "bashing" others I didn't even "see" you had an opinion. (You typically don't).

Now, about your opinion.

As I recall, we obtained Truluck with 5th and 6th round picks at a position of NEED. (Pass rusher). We got him with picks from Oakland for Marques Anderson, so they weren't really "our" picks. (though picking draft picks would probably have been better....)

Truluck had his best season as a pro in 2003 registering 5 sacks in a part time role with Kansas City. He was young, and inexperienced with that "tangible upside" you seem to value so much.

Did it work out? Nope. Does it look silly today? Sure, with the benefit of hindsight. At the time, there was legitimate possibility...

I remember being a little bit giddy about Truluck when that move was made. He did look okay when playing for the Chiefs the year before, so I was happy with the move.

Even considering hindsight, you have to remember who was drafting for us at the time. There's no guarantee Sherman's 5th and 6th round draft picks would be any better either.

Nothing is guaranteed

But just a thought

Has TTT ever delivered anything close to Mike Sherman's best 5th round draft choice ?

Mike Sherman hasn't delivered anything better than Mike Sherman's best 5th round draft choice either. And I forgot about Hunter Hillenmeyer, also drafted in the 5th round. Okay, you win, maybe Shermy had a little success there.

Ole Teddy's still got him beat in the first 4 rounds though. Has TT ever delivered anything close to Sherman's worst 3rd round pick?

[StPaulPackFan]

My biggest disappointment was Eddie Lee Ivory. He was an unbelievable RB prior to injuring his knee. After the injury he never came close to his old form. He could have been great one.

I think we need to keep injuries out of this one....ELI was fantastic...not a disappointment at all before he was injured...we need to stick with guys who just stunk it up.

It's still hard not to be crushed when a great player gets his career cut short. This would also apply to Tim Lewis.

As for stinking it up, one name sticks with me from my childhood: Mark Lee. From what I remember, he was always in position to make interceptions, but he couldn't catch a cold. I remember my dad calling him Mark "Hands of Stone" Lee. In reality he probably wasn't as bad as I remember but my those memories of my dad yelling at him through the TV are priceless.

[The_Dude]

Travis Jervey...so fast just couldn't hold on to the ball. I remember the first touchdown he scored I think he fumbled in the endzone. Thought he was going to be a awesome return man

[Administrator]

Has TT ever delivered anything close to Sherman's worst 3rd round pick?

How about Cory Rodgers? Tho' I think he was a 4th? But terrible, notwithstanding.

[Scott Campbell]

Has TT ever delivered anything close to Sherman's worst 3rd round pick?

How about Cory Rodgers? Tho' I think he was a 4th? But terrible, notwithstanding.

He didn't make it out of camp - did he?

[Administrator]

Has TT ever delivered anything close to Sherman's worst 3rd round pick?

How about Cory Rodgers? Tho' I think he was a 4th? But terrible, notwithstanding.

He didn't make it out of camp - did he?

Nope. Ted's only reply was "sometimes you make a mistake". Yep.