Favorite duds and disappointments

[hoosier]

He's trying to force his release.

What's his cap number?

I can afford the cap hit, I just hate to lose a talented player...

If you cut him you'll be sorry in the short run, but he'll probably end up suffering more in the long run. If you don't cut him, he'll probably still go TO on you eventually and to make things worse, you'll lose the small pleasure of seeing him come back just when you've finally forgotten about him.

Of course I could be wrong. Sorry to hear your pick busted.

[MJZiggy]

You're probably right. Thanks for the thoughts. Guess I just need to see what free agents are out there!

[Iron Mike]

You're probably right. Thanks for the thoughts. Guess I just need to see what free agents are out there!

The screen door slams, Mary's dress sways........

Annnnnnnnd back on topic......Anthony Dilweg. :P

[Southoftheborder]

One for me was Antonio Chatman. I saw him play in the Arena league the season before the Packers picked him up. He was unbelievable that game. I believe he had 4 TD catches and 2 kick returns for touchdowns. Something like 280 all purpose yards on a 50 yard field. He was quick and illusive.

I guess he was just too small for the NFL and the quickness he had in the AFL didn't measure up to the big leagues.

I don't know, isn't he still playing for Cincy? Certainly has had staying power.

They had to pull him off the field last year in a pretty bad collision.

My point was that I thought he was going to be good, not servicable.

[MJZiggy]

You're probably right. Thanks for the thoughts. Guess I just need to see what free agents are out there!

The screen door slams, Mary's dress sways........

Annnnnnnnd back on topic......Anthony Dilweg. :P

Maybe I should be thinking about the kind of guy that'd send me love songs...

[woodbuck27]

Mike Hawkins

You gave me this name.

Justin Harrell. Maybe I'm wrong but doesn't he have all the time TT does? Is everyone 'really pleased' with AJ Hawk? Darren Colledge? I'll stop there.

This is about players you rooted for and/or liked that failed or underperformed, not players you bitched about from the day they were drafted.

Hey. Find one post where I bitch about any of the aforementioned players. You won't find one.

I just hoped one of these three high draft picks would turn out to be Pro Bowl material Skinbasket. So to date I am a tad disappointed in their contribution to the Packers. I hope for more in a first or second round pick not A. Carroll performances and not saying any of these Packers could be as poor a pick as A C.

[woodbuck27]

Mike Hawkins

You gave me this name.

Justin Harrell. Maybe I'm wrong but doesn't he have all the time TT does? Is everyone 'really pleased' with AJ Hawk? Darren Colledge? I'll stop there.

Well, this isn't really what the thread is about, but I'll answer to your examples. Justin Harrell is what he is, a defensive tackle/end with all of the physical traits you'd look for in a defensive lineman - but can't stay healthy. The other two, yes I would say I'm pleased. Darren Colledge was our best OL last season. Better than either of our former bookend tackles were. Colledge isn't HOF material, but he's going to have an incredible career for the Packers.

AJ Hawk has done everything asked of him - I didn't think I had to go into this again. He hasn't made a ton of plays because he was never schemed into position to make plays. He was a block eater. That was his job and he did it very well. How many sacks is he supposed to have if he never is sent on a pass rush? How many fumbles is he supposed to cause/recover if he's only asked to move blockers out of the way for Barnett? I'd argue Hawk is very, VERY solid. Hopefully this new scheme will utilize the LB's as playmakers (they better, or the 3-4 will be a disaster) and when they are I expect Hawk to emerge as a premier ILB in the NFL.

So in answer to your question, yes, I am pleased. At least with the players you mentioned - aside from Harrell, who at this point still has a chance to be very good in this league as well (if he can get and stay healthy).

Nice response Gunakor.

[Iron Mike]

You're probably right. Thanks for the thoughts. Guess I just need to see what free agents are out there!

The screen door slams, Mary's dress sways........

Maybe I should be thinking about the kind of guy that'd send me love songs...

Like so?


Back on topic, Seth Joyner.

[K-town]

Hardy (Hardly) Nickerson

[Patler]

Rich Moore.
He was supposed to be one of the players the '60s Championship teams would be rebuilt around. You can pick a whole roster full of players in the late '60s and early '70s who were disappointments in that regard.

[Fritz]

How true that is. I think the "gold dust twins" fall into that category as well.

The Packer drafs of the late sixties were not of the quality of earlier drafts. Did Lombardi gain more control over the draft?

[Patler]

How true that is. I think the "gold dust twins" fall into that category as well.

The Packer drafs of the late sixties were not of the quality of earlier drafts. Did Lombardi gain more control over the draft?

Anderson and Grabowski were certainly not the reincarnations of Taylor and Hornung, but I thought Anderson had a relatively solid, if unspectacular career. Grabowski looked to be what was expected from him, but just couldn't stay healthy. A couple knee injuries, and in those days that was pretty much the end of your career once they sliced your knee completely open from top to bottom of the joint. I suppose they were disappointments from what some expected, but they weren't bums. But expectations were pretty high.

I was disappointed by Brockington. Three solid years, then pretty much nothing. He became a very timid runner, which was strange for the way he started out.

I think a problem the Packers and everyone had maintaining dynasties was roster size. In those days it was 40. It was hard to dump the old stars and work in young talent over a prolonged period. The Packers did it once from the early '60s to the last championship, but the next one didn't go so smoothly.

Lombardi left after the 1968 season, and I don't think was involved in the 1969 draft. From then on there were some questionable picks, although Lombardi himself missed on a few that could have made a big difference into the '70s.