FAVRE TO HAVE SURGERY

[Deputy Nutz]

I'm okay with Favre playing for the Vikings if that's what he wants to do, and I don't care why he wants to do it. Of course, if he is the Vikings quarterback, I won't be cheering for him, but that's okay too. I just wish that back in February of 2008 he had decided he wanted another shot at a Super Bowl...with the Packers.

This is a really good post. Better than 99% of the crap on this forum, mine included.

I will be cheering for Favre. I hope the Packers go 14-2, and 2-1 in the playoffs.

That's fucked up

Lets Go Favre! If he can't do it no one can!!!

[MJZiggy]

Favre is almost 40 years old, out of shape and injured (not to mention he tends to screw up in games he wants to win too badly--see Holmgren, Seahawks). He fades toward the end of the season even when in shape and you think he's leading the Vikings to the Super Bowl? Yeah. Let's go Favre. If Favre can't do it, I'm sure there's another QB who will. Think Aaron Rodgers for a handy example...

[Scott Campbell]

Well the Vikings will have the top seed in the NFC, Packers will lose the NFC Championship to the Vikings

Do you have any fucking idea how bad that would completely and utterly suck?

I think you get it completely. See Scott, we are not that far off from each other. You were so utterly hurt and saddened by Favregate 08 and Favregate II that you now question your loyalty to your own family. Thats ok. I do to.

It would suck.

We should drink now.

[Bretsky]

I'm okay with Favre playing for the Vikings if that's what he wants to do, and I don't care why he wants to do it. Of course, if he is the Vikings quarterback, I won't be cheering for him, but that's okay too. I just wish that back in February of 2008 he had decided he wanted another shot at a Super Bowl...with the Packers.

This is a really good post. Better than 99% of the crap on this forum, mine included.

I will be cheering for Favre. I hope the Packers go 14-2, and 2-1 in the playoffs.

2-1 in the Playoffs?

Well the Vikings will have the top seed in the NFC, Packers will lose the NFC Championship to the Vikings

Your math is way off. If the Packers go 14-2, the only way they could be 2-1 and lose to the Vikings would be the 3 or 4th seed. The chances of that are almost impossible.

But at least you are clear that you are not a real Packer fan. . Rooting for Brett Favre over the Packers proves it. But, I respect you for that. You have guts certain others here don't have, even though they would go the same way youdo.

EDIT: It appears I havne't read the rule book lately. 1st paragraph I was wrong.

I really have no idea what a real Packer fan is, is there a guideline or book on it? I used to really like the Giants because LT was awesome.

I think Brett Favre should stay retired. Sure he is motivated to play, but mind over body failed him once already.

Hey time heals all wounds, eventually I will come back around. At a garage sale today I almost bought an old pair of Packer mesh shorts.

Put simply for your case, A real Packer fan would not cheer against the Packers in favor of one player. Cheer FAvre all you like during the 14 games not against the Packers. But you should be cheering the Packers in the other two. You don't have to boo Favre at the same time, but you should be cheering for the team.

That said, I still respect your position, even though I think it is warped.

Would a real Packer fan write off the team, the GM, and the coach if it chose to bring back any particular player ?

[Bretsky]

Favre is almost 40 years old, out of shape and injured (not to mention he tends to screw up in games he wants to win too badly--see Holmgren, Seahawks). He fades toward the end of the season even when in shape and you think he's leading the Vikings to the Super Bowl? Yeah. Let's go Favre. If Favre can't do it, I'm sure there's another QB who will. Think Aaron Rodgers for a handy example...

Lots of assumptions here

1. How do you know if he's in or out of shape ? He may be working diligently with a trainer; who knows.

2. The Vikings are pretty dam talented besides the QB; with a healthy team and even an average QB they might be a contender. Do you not agree with that ? Do you not think Fave can be average ?

3. Did Favre fade badly because it was the end of the year, because he was injured, or because he's not as effective in the bad weather and he runs into that often at the end of the year ?

4. If the answer is the second option or the latter, have you looked at the Vikings schedule, and noted the 8 dome games and how many bad weather games they have at the end of the year ?


Your points have as big of holes in them as the other sides

[pbmax]

I will be cheering for Favre. I hope the Packers go 14-2, and 2-1 in the playoffs.

Nutz, are you predicting 2-1 in the playoffs? Or rooting for the theoretical Favre-Vikings to make the Super Bowl?

right.

Assuming you are not being facetious, I can't go there with you. I might root for Favre if he makes it to the big game, but not at the expense of the Packers.

[pbmax]

Well, if nothing else this season, we will at least have a lot of data to finally answer the age old question:

Do the Vikings and Bears receivers stink due to a lack of talent, or a lack of a QB?

[Scott Campbell]

Do you not think Fave can be average ?

Freudian slip?


I'm not so sure that Favre can be average. He's either brilliant, or incredibly sucky. I don't remember much middle ground.

[gex]

Don't you think some are stretching a bit lately to find reasons to dislike him?

I think some are stretching a ton to find reasons to continue supporting him. But hey, it's a free country.

IMO those who still somewhat or fully support him would much rather just talk football these days and not Favre stuff. Those who dislike him are enjoying any news out there that can support their reason not to like him further

It isn't the anti-Favre crowd that starts a bunch of new Favre threads or revives Favre threads from last summer/fall. IMO many of those who somewhat or fully support him would much rather talk about Favre than Packer football. Many of Favre's supporters yearn for news about Favre's potential comeback much more than the do for news about the Packers new 3-4 defense or how Harrell's or Jenkins' or Barnett's injury rehab is coming along. Those of us who dislike him aren't the ones combing the newswires for new dirt, we are simply responding to others' threads started in his honor. Most of us anyway.

A great idea would be to eliminate Favre topics entirely, but it's already been proven that won't work. Those who support him will continue to start threads illustrating their support for a guy looking to spite our beloved Packers. Those who do not support him will continue to respond in these threads illustrating their sincere distaste for his mindset and his behavior. That will continue indefinitely, because too many people still feel that Favre discussion is legitimate in a Packer forum. Fine, but then you get both sides of the argument, not just the supportive side. That's how it works.

We are entitled to hate him, we are justified in doing so, but we are NOT the ones starting the majority of the Favre threads. If you want our negative posts twoards him to stop, I want your positive posts to end as well. Not you specifically, of course, but everyone. We have no less a right to vocally hate him than you have to vocally support him. If you guys want us to hate on him on our own time, away from this forum, I'd expect the same from those who support him. But, again, we are not primarily the ones who start these threads. So that should illustrate who this is more important to.

A quick look at the last 6 pages and who started threads directly related to Favre:
3- Mobb
2- Justin Harrell
2- Paco
2- pack-man
2- Packerblues

One thread started by each of the following:

packers4ever
killer b
mngolf
snake
vince
bossman
madscientest
digitaldean
thunderdan
pbmax
mission
gbpacfan
retail
bluebrewer
sheapshead
gex
campell
partial
cleft
lurker
Next we'll see who has posted the most in the more popular and recent Favre threads.

[Scott Campbell]

A quick look at the last 6 pages and who started threads directly related to Favre:
3- Mobb
2- Justin Harrell
2- Paco
2- pack-man
2- Packerblues

One thread started by each of the following:

packers4ever
killer b
mngolf
snake
vince
bossman
madscientest
digitaldean
thunderdan
pbmax
mission
gbpacfan
retail
bluebrewer
sheapshead
gex
campell
partial
cleft
lurker
Next we'll see who has posted the most in the more popular and recent Favre threads.

This may be my favorite gex post ever.

[pbmax]

A quick look at the last 6 pages and who started threads directly related to Favre:
3- Mobb
2- Justin Harrell
2- Paco
2- pack-man
2- Packerblues

One thread started by each of the following:

packers4ever
killer b
mngolf
snake
vince
bossman
madscientest
digitaldean
thunderdan
pbmax
mission
gbpacfan
retail
bluebrewer
sheapshead
gex
campell
partial
cleft
lurker
Next we'll see who has posted the most in the more popular and recent Favre threads.

This may be my favorite gex post ever.

There are no Favre threads on page 6 that I can see. And I would like these numbers to be verified by Dewey, Cheetum and Howe.

[vince]

Don't you think some are stretching a bit lately to find reasons to dislike him?

I think some are stretching a ton to find reasons to continue supporting him. But hey, it's a free country.

IMO those who still somewhat or fully support him would much rather just talk football these days and not Favre stuff. Those who dislike him are enjoying any news out there that can support their reason not to like him further

It isn't the anti-Favre crowd that starts a bunch of new Favre threads or revives Favre threads from last summer/fall. IMO many of those who somewhat or fully support him would much rather talk about Favre than Packer football. Many of Favre's supporters yearn for news about Favre's potential comeback much more than the do for news about the Packers new 3-4 defense or how Harrell's or Jenkins' or Barnett's injury rehab is coming along. Those of us who dislike him aren't the ones combing the newswires for new dirt, we are simply responding to others' threads started in his honor. Most of us anyway.

A great idea would be to eliminate Favre topics entirely, but it's already been proven that won't work. Those who support him will continue to start threads illustrating their support for a guy looking to spite our beloved Packers. Those who do not support him will continue to respond in these threads illustrating their sincere distaste for his mindset and his behavior. That will continue indefinitely, because too many people still feel that Favre discussion is legitimate in a Packer forum. Fine, but then you get both sides of the argument, not just the supportive side. That's how it works.

We are entitled to hate him, we are justified in doing so, but we are NOT the ones starting the majority of the Favre threads. If you want our negative posts twoards him to stop, I want your positive posts to end as well. Not you specifically, of course, but everyone. We have no less a right to vocally hate him than you have to vocally support him. If you guys want us to hate on him on our own time, away from this forum, I'd expect the same from those who support him. But, again, we are not primarily the ones who start these threads. So that should illustrate who this is more important to.

A quick look at the last 6 pages and who started threads directly related to Favre:
3- Mobb
2- Justin Harrell
2- Paco
2- pack-man
2- Packerblues

One thread started by each of the following:

packers4ever
killer b
mngolf
snake
vince
bossman
madscientest
digitaldean
thunderdan
pbmax
mission
gbpacfan
retail
bluebrewer
sheapshead
gex
campell
partial
cleft
lurker
Next we'll see who has posted the most in the more popular and recent Favre threads.

At least mine was funny...

So by my quick count, the Thompson hater threads outnumber the Favre hater threads by about 2-1

And before you jump on me about oversimplification...lighten up Francis. We know you love the Packers and you just want what's best for them.

[packrat]

At this point any Favre story is no longer funny. It's pathetic. It reminds me of the Monty Python movie where they are trying to throw a guy on the wagon of dead bodies after the plague and this one guy keeps yelling "I'm not dead yet" so they bop him on the head and throw him on the wagon anyway.

[vince]

At this point any Favre story is no longer funny. It's pathetic. It reminds me of the Monty Python movie where they are trying to throw a guy on the wagon of dead bodies after the plague and this one guy keeps yelling "I'm not dead yet" so they bop him on the head and throw him on the wagon anyway.

Maybe it was piling on a bit (OK quite a bit), but I thought it was a very creative and hilarious mockery of the situation....

[Fritz]

At this point any Favre story is no longer funny. It's pathetic. It reminds me of the Monty Python movie where they are trying to throw a guy on the wagon of dead bodies after the plague and this one guy keeps yelling "I'm not dead yet" so they bop him on the head and throw him on the wagon anyway.

But that scene was freakin' hilarious; therefore, any Favre story must also be hilarious.

I am kind of hoping, being a creature of habit like Aaron Kampman, that the Favre retirement/unretirement thing will become an annual tradition for the next few years. It'd be like Puxhatawny Phil and Groundhog Day. "Hey, when do you think Favre will unretire this year? I wonder who he'll play for?"

It would be comforting. Really, the whole Brett Favre retirement-or-not thing has been going on for a few years now. I'm gonna miss it when it stops.

And maybe Favre is really enjoying it. Can you just picture him, twinkle in his eye, telling Deanna "Watch how I mess with 'em this year. I'm gonna retire right away this time, and then I'm going to see if I can un-retire the day before the season starts! I think this year too I'm gonna go for the Raiders. Al will let me do whatever I want, and no one will know why I want to play for a loser team. I'll really mess with everyone this year!"

Maybe he's having a blast with this, too. Maybe it's fun for all of us. I think we need some betting pools on this stuff, with dates of retirement and unretirement, and lists of teams he might play for ("I got the Packers down as a 250 - 1 longshot.")