Vikes give Favre deadline

[Bossman641]

I don't think the deadline is strange. The Vikings are simply telling him that they will not allow this to be a distraction for the next 2 months.

If he is unsure of his arm, its a dead issue.

Here's to Favre finding a way to continue to be a distraction for the Vikings for the next two months With a bit of luck the locker room can be nicely divided into 3 camps before Favre even steps foot in it.

I'll drink to that.

I'm hoping Favre refuses to give an answer this week, retreats to his house and has his relatives talk trash about Chilly, appears on a cable news program as the announcer lobs softballs to him, and then invites AD over to his house to talk things over. It will all culminate with Favre showing up at training camp saying he just wants to play.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Better them than us.

+4

[packrat]

Playbook? He don't need no stinking playbook -- just throw long and hope for the best.

[falco]

Playbook? He don't need no stinking playbook -- just throw long and hope for the best.

ahh, i miss the good old days when he'd only throw it up for grabs in the playoffs.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Playbook? He don't need no stinking playbook -- just throw long and hope for the best.

Look, all he needs to know is like 5-10 plays. Partial detailed this before.

Have you guys learned nothing.

[GrnBay007]

Wonder if it would work to have 1 Favre thread here where people can follow the story without all the insults, potshots, wishing injury, etc.

Then the 5-10 people that like to insult and bash him can have the other 3-4 Favre threads for that purpose.

Think that would work?

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Wonder if it would work to have 1 Favre thread here where people can follow the story without all the insults, potshots, wishing injury, etc.

Then the 5-10 people that like to insult and bash him can have the other 3-4 Favre threads for that purpose.

Think that would work?

I agree. Brett is above ridicule, insults, potshots, etc.

They can only be used towards other team's players and current packers that we feel aren't doing the job.

Clearly Brett doesn't fall into either of those two categories.

I would also like to stop all the sniping at T.O. Ocho Cinco, the Bears, the Vikings, players with 9 kids from 6 different mommas, any and all players involved in contract disputes, all owners as they are great, the media,..and anyone else that i forgot.

[pbmax]

Wonder if it would work to have 1 Favre thread here where people can follow the story without all the insults, potshots, wishing injury, etc.

Then the 5-10 people that like to insult and bash him can have the other 3-4 Favre threads for that purpose.

Think that would work?

No it wouldn't because messages such as the one above would make no sense in a one sided thread. There would be little to say amongst those who agree that the other side is clearly off their rocker. The thread would sink and inevitably, one side would move to the other's thread and post another message containing nothing but a complaint.

To avoid my post falling into this category, let me make the following observation:

Brett Favre's approved ESPN spokesman Ed Mortender, today filed a story about how the Minnesota Vikings had given Brett a deadline of Friday to decide what to do. This deadline makes NO objective sense, and it certainly makes no sense for the Vikings to proclaim it if their goal is to land Favre.

Lo and behold, Chilly's spokespuppet Pat Kirwan today told his radio audience that there is absolutely NO deadline whatsoever, and Favre can come in anytime up to training camp. (per PFT)

You may remember this sequence of odd public statements from years past. In fact, it happened at least three times with the Packers, once with Sherman (who, faced with the leak of a tentative "we'd like to know" date, caved in so completely that the NEXT season, Mike proclaimed the no deadline timetable BEFORE the players had left town). The other times were with Thompson. One year, Favre finagled a visit from the coach and GM, the second year it was left to the coach (I think this was the year of the longest wait). We all know what happened in year 3.

Its my belief, that you are witnessing one of the world's best public relation manipulators in action. Despite being 39 (and 40 during the season), Favre now has public permission to skip all off-season activities and training. He is free to condition or not condition himself as he sees fit. And in the greatest coup of all, if he shows up two days early, or comes in to do meeting work for 2 days of OTAs, the coverage will make it seem like he is a hero.

ND72 or Nutz or KYPack can confirm for you that high-level coaches, even in this day and age like to be in control. In fact, most are control freaks. Trying to work with them (especially if you are fighting for an interest against their wishes) can be an ugly scene. This QB has completely turned the equation around, which finally answers my question from a decade ago: Why did Dan Marino's career end so bitterly with the Dolphins?

The answer is that he wanted to play in the games. But on his terms, and on his schedule. You cannot train properly for the NFL with that priority list.

[RashanGary]

I agree. Brett is above ridicule, insults, potshots, etc.

They can only be used towards other team's players and current packers that we feel aren't doing the job.

Clearly Brett doesn't fall into either of those two categories.

I would also like to stop all the sniping at T.O. Ocho Cinco, the Bears, the Vikings, players with 9 kids from 6 different mommas, any and all players involved in contract disputes, all owners as they are great, the media,..and anyone else that i forgot.

Great post.

[gbgary]

funny stuff.


i hate the off-season.

[Deputy Nutz]

Wonder if it would work to have 1 Favre thread here where people can follow the story without all the insults, potshots, wishing injury, etc.

Then the 5-10 people that like to insult and bash him can have the other 3-4 Favre threads for that purpose.

Think that would work?

No it wouldn't because messages such as the one above would make no sense in a one sided thread. There would be little to say amongst those who agree that the other side is clearly off their rocker. The thread would sink and inevitably, one side would move to the other's thread and post another message containing nothing but a complaint.

To avoid my post falling into this category, let me make the following observation:

Brett Favre's approved ESPN spokesman Ed Mortender, today filed a story about how the Minnesota Vikings had given Brett a deadline of Friday to decide what to do. This deadline makes NO objective sense, and it certainly makes no sense for the Vikings to proclaim it if their goal is to land Favre.

Lo and behold, Chilly's spokespuppet Pat Kirwan today told his radio audience that there is absolutely NO deadline whatsoever, and Favre can come in anytime up to training camp. (per PFT)

You may remember this sequence of odd public statements from years past. In fact, it happened at least three times with the Packers, once with Sherman (who, faced with the leak of a tentative "we'd like to know" date, caved in so completely that the NEXT season, Mike proclaimed the no deadline timetable BEFORE the players had left town). The other times were with Thompson. One year, Favre finagled a visit from the coach and GM, the second year it was left to the coach (I think this was the year of the longest wait). We all know what happened in year 3.

Its my belief, that you are witnessing one of the world's best public relation manipulators in action. Despite being 39 (and 40 during the season), Favre now has public permission to skip all off-season activities and training. He is free to condition or not condition himself as he sees fit. And in the greatest coup of all, if he shows up two days early, or comes in to do meeting work for 2 days of OTAs, the coverage will make it seem like he is a hero.

ND72 or Nutz or KYPack can confirm for you that high-level coaches, even in this day and age like to be in control. In fact, most are control freaks. Trying to work with them (especially if you are fighting for an interest against their wishes) can be an ugly scene. This QB has completely turned the equation around, which finally answers my question from a decade ago: Why did Dan Marino's career end so bitterly with the Dolphins?

The answer is that he wanted to play in the games. But on his terms, and on his schedule. You cannot train properly for the NFL with that priority list.

Thats about right. Claim whatever you want about the offseason conditioning and programs that Favre "refused" to do, because I never once heard McCarthy or Thompson speak ill of Favre in these terms. I may not be correct or just never heard them going after Favre for this, but the bottom line is that Favre got into issues with Packer management, and regardless of who you are as a player that is never a good thing. Guys like Thompson and every other successful GM are total control freaks and don't much like it when they start getting opinions from those they wish no opinion from. GM's don't wish to hear opinions from players, assistant coaches, and even head coaches in some cases, unless they are specifically asked.

I knew when I was coaching football and now with wrestling as an assistant coach that when I just offered up my opinion it was usually ill received. I am an opinionated son of a bitch, but I try to do my best to only give opinions when asked specifically for them. It is a respect system amongst coaches.

[GrnBay007]

pbmax,
I wasn't trying to start something with my thoughts/request. Whether you believe it or not there are still some people interested in following the Favre story. Heck, the Green Bay Gazette has posted a lot of information. When I say following the story, I mean exactly that. The Vikings are apparently interested and he seems interested in playing for the Vikings. Why can't this be followed and discussed at a mature level without all the immaturity, bashing and wishing injury upon him? There are a few Viking fans on the board that have been excellent contributors to PackerRats for years.

Why do people find it so hard to believe that some enjoy following a specific player's career? It's really pretty creepy to read what some write here about Favre. And no, I didn't think it was out of line or above the level of maturity of this forum to allow 1 single thread to follow information, updates on Favre without all the childish comments and bashing.

It's sad, IMO

[Tyrone Bigguns]

pbmax,
I wasn't trying to start something with my thoughts/request. Whether you believe it or not there are still some people interested in following the Favre story. Heck, the Green Bay Gazette has posted a lot of information. When I say following the story, I mean exactly that. The Vikings are apparently interested and he seems interested in playing for the Vikings. Why can't this be followed and discussed at a mature level without all the immaturity, bashing and wishing injury upon him? There are a few Viking fans on the board that have been excellent contributors to PackerRats for years.

Why do people find it so hard to believe that some enjoy following a specific player's career? It's really pretty creepy to read what some write here about Favre. And no, I didn't think it was out of line or above the level of maturity of this forum to allow 1 single thread to follow information, updates on Favre without all the childish comments and bashing.

It's sad, IMO

What is sad is your attitude...not all the time, but some of it.

I think you need to figure out what medium you are in. If you want to follow a story, you read newspapers, magazines, etc..or you watch news outlets.

This is a forum for the packers. One doesn't follow stories on forums. One gets commentary. And, if there is information on a non packer you should be happy....this is packerrats.com....mr. favre is no longer a packer.

Mr. Favre is treated with the same love and devotion given to other packers who left the team. I happen to have liked longwell and sharper.....should i constantly tell others how sad it is that i can't follow their careers on this board without the churlish and childish comments about them?

Or, is there a certain threshold that needs to be reached before ex-players can't be commented on....if so, please define it...or is it just brett than can't be commented on.

I happen to follow players...should i complain about the harsh treatment of OchoCinco, T.O., or players of other teams?

[GrnBay007]

What is sad is your attitude...not all the time, but some of it.

To bad! At least I'm not afraid to post what I think/feel.

....mr. favre is no longer a packer.

Then why do some "hater" Packer fans get a hard on everyday talking about him??

I happen to have liked longwell and sharper.....should i constantly tell others how sad it is that i can't follow their careers on this board without the churlish and childish comments about them?

Go for it! Doesn't bother me a bit.

Or, is there a certain threshold that needs to be reached before ex-players can't be commented on....if so, please define it...or is it just brett than can't be commented on.

In my original post I stated there are at least 3-4 hate threads out there....is that not enough?

I happen to follow players...should i complain about the harsh treatment of OchoCinco, T.O., or players of other teams?

Fine by me.

[Scott Campbell]

pbmax,
I wasn't trying to start something with my thoughts/request. Whether you believe it or not there are still some people interested in following the Favre story. Heck, the Green Bay Gazette has posted a lot of information. When I say following the story, I mean exactly that. The Vikings are apparently interested and he seems interested in playing for the Vikings. Why can't this be followed and discussed at a mature level without all the immaturity, bashing and wishing injury upon him? There are a few Viking fans on the board that have been excellent contributors to PackerRats for years.

Why do people find it so hard to believe that some enjoy following a specific player's career? It's really pretty creepy to read what some write here about Favre. And no, I didn't think it was out of line or above the level of maturity of this forum to allow 1 single thread to follow information, updates on Favre without all the childish comments and bashing.

It's sad, IMO

Unfortunately it takes a thick skin to be a Favre supporter these days. I hope you don't take anything I've said personally.