Vikes give Favre deadline

[Brando19]

pbmax,
I wasn't trying to start something with my thoughts/request. Whether you believe it or not there are still some people interested in following the Favre story. Heck, the Green Bay Gazette has posted a lot of information. When I say following the story, I mean exactly that. The Vikings are apparently interested and he seems interested in playing for the Vikings. Why can't this be followed and discussed at a mature level without all the immaturity, bashing and wishing injury upon him? There are a few Viking fans on the board that have been excellent contributors to PackerRats for years.

Why do people find it so hard to believe that some enjoy following a specific player's career? It's really pretty creepy to read what some write here about Favre. And no, I didn't think it was out of line or above the level of maturity of this forum to allow 1 single thread to follow information, updates on Favre without all the childish comments and bashing.

It's sad, IMO

Unfortunately it takes a thick skin to be a Favre supporter these days. I hope you don't take anything I've said personally.

And if Favre does become a Viking...his legacy will forever be ruined for millions. His Steakhouse in Green Bay may even come down. Which is sad because Favre is and forever will be a Packer...but why the hell is he stooping to this? Think of the fans for once in your life, Brett.

[GrnBay007]

Unfortunately it takes a thick skin to be a Favre supporter these days. I hope you don't take anything I've said personally.

You know, that's ok. I've never been a person to let others influence me when I believe in something or support someone. I've never changed my views to go along with the crowd because it's the "in" thing. I personally believe hatred is a sign of weakness and that of someone that is frightened.

I've had no problem with sane, intelligent conversations on this board discussing the good and bad concerning Favre. But then throw in the hate...the wishing injury, etc. that's just lame, weak, hateful people, IMO

[KYPack]

Hey!

Leave 007 alone.

She was trying to bring a little reason and order to this oft-times goofy ass forum.

[Scott Campbell]

Unfortunately it takes a thick skin to be a Favre supporter these days. I hope you don't take anything I've said personally.

You know, that's ok. I've never been a person to let others influence me when I believe in something or support someone. I've never changed my views to go along with the crowd because it's the "in" thing. I personally believe hatred is a sign of weakness and that of someone that is frightened.

I've had no problem with sane, intelligent conversations on this board discussing the good and bad concerning Favre. But then throw in the hate...the wishing injury, etc. that's just lame, weak, hateful people, IMO

I'm not sure I'd go that far about either side. People are mostly just ornery and pissed off about it. A lot of this is venting.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

What is sad is your attitude...not all the time, but some of it.

To bad! At least I'm not afraid to post what I think/feel.

....mr. favre is no longer a packer.

Then why do some "hater" Packer fans get a hard on everyday talking about him??

I happen to have liked longwell and sharper.....should i constantly tell others how sad it is that i can't follow their careers on this board without the churlish and childish comments about them?

Go for it! Doesn't bother me a bit.

Or, is there a certain threshold that needs to be reached before ex-players can't be commented on....if so, please define it...or is it just brett than can't be commented on.

In my original post I stated there are at least 3-4 hate threads out there....is that not enough?

I happen to follow players...should i complain about the harsh treatment of OchoCinco, T.O., or players of other teams?

Fine by me.

1. You are welcome to post your opinion..and let everyone know how sad you are...and basically let us know that you feel you are better. That is your right. Just like it is our right to post our feelings.

2. I'm not surprised you dropped the "following the story" angle. You really have no point. This is a discussion/forum.

3. "haters"..do you not realize you contribute to the problems by calling someone that. By doing so, you are justifying your actions or someone elses..not to mention marginalizing their thoughts.

But, to answer your question..the same reason that if you mention sharper..you'll get: missed tackles, free lanced, dont' miss him, big mouth, etc.

That is the nature of most fans, be they packers or bears. But, i'm sure you are different...you probably speak glowingly of all your ex-friends and husbands/boyfriends.

4. I could. I could be just like you. What is the point? You've expressed your opinion to the point where everyone knows it..and some posters can practically post for you in absentia. Not saying they are right for doing so, but pretty much expected when you call people "haters."

5. hate threads. By calling them that, you are trolling. If i post in one of those am i a hater? For many years i was labeled an apologist on the jsonline site. Now, that i've changed my mind...now i'm a hater?

6. Other players. It is fine by you...great. Unfortunately you miss the point. Brett isn't being singled out....posters here rip on many players..and with far more "hate" and with very few that back them up...a show of hands for the T.O. lovers...puhlease.

What is even more telling is that you don't chide them. If you want justice for your guy, then you can only expect it if you give justice to all.

[GrnBay007]

I'm not sure I'd go that far about either side. People are mostly just ornery and pissed off about it. A lot of this is venting.

That's the part I don't understand Scott. If people are happy he's gone, happy not to go through the "will he play, won't he play" stuff, then why are they pissed of if he plays for another team? Those people believe he's no good anymore at QB so why be pissed he's playing for another team? Maybe the pissed off part has a bit to do with some fear that he might just have "it" left in the old tank ......and maybe deep down some wish he would have played for the Packers ONE more year. But admitting that would be doubting TT and company......and we know that's forbidden here.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

pbmax,
I wasn't trying to start something with my thoughts/request. Whether you believe it or not there are still some people interested in following the Favre story. Heck, the Green Bay Gazette has posted a lot of information. When I say following the story, I mean exactly that. The Vikings are apparently interested and he seems interested in playing for the Vikings. Why can't this be followed and discussed at a mature level without all the immaturity, bashing and wishing injury upon him? There are a few Viking fans on the board that have been excellent contributors to PackerRats for years.

Why do people find it so hard to believe that some enjoy following a specific player's career? It's really pretty creepy to read what some write here about Favre. And no, I didn't think it was out of line or above the level of maturity of this forum to allow 1 single thread to follow information, updates on Favre without all the childish comments and bashing.

It's sad, IMO

Unfortunately it takes a thick skin to be a Favre supporter these days. I hope you don't take anything I've said personally.

And if Favre does become a Viking...his legacy will forever be ruined for millions. His Steakhouse in Green Bay may even come down. Which is sad because Favre is and forever will be a Packer...but why the hell is he stooping to this? Think of the fans for once in your life, Brett.

Brando has essentially nailed it.

Brett's national/worldwide legacy will not be harmed no matter where he plays. People don't care where O.J., Joe willie, emmitt ended their careers. The same will be true of Brett.

However, the special relationship that Brett had with Green Bay and the state of wisconsin will be damaged beyond repair. Brett will still be loved, he still will be cheered at functions, etc...but, that special, unique bond forged will be over.

Brett is telling us that our relationship is not that special, that isn't worth much to him..or that he feels he can get by.

Brett is like a husband or wife that cheats. Yes, you can get past it, yes you can stay married, yes you can still love that person...but, ultimately, the love and relationship you have after the affair is never the same.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Brett is like a husband or wife that cheats. Yes, you can get past it, yes you can stay married, yes you can still love that person...but, ultimately, the love and relationship you have after the affair is never the same.

Oh Ty, I'll always take you back even after all your weeks away on those drug "binges". I love you man!

[Bossman641]

I'm not sure I'd go that far about either side. People are mostly just ornery and pissed off about it. A lot of this is venting.

That's the part I don't understand Scott. If people are happy he's gone, happy not to go through the "will he play, won't he play" stuff, then why are they pissed of if he plays for another team? Those people believe he's no good anymore at QB so why be pissed he's playing for another team? Maybe the pissed off part has a bit to do with some fear that he might just have "it" left in the old tank ......and maybe deep down some wish he would have played for the Packers ONE more year. But admitting that would be doubting TT and company......and we know that's forbidden here.

Because he's acting like a douche. If TO, Randy Moss, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, etc. acted this way I'd say the same thing.

Navigating his release from 2 teams, the lies, the behavior from him those around him, the leaks through the media, and on and on. It's bullshit. Nothing personal. He's just being an ass. Nothing more, nothing less. If that makes me a hater so be it.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I'm not sure I'd go that far about either side. People are mostly just ornery and pissed off about it. A lot of this is venting.

That's the part I don't understand Scott. If people are happy he's gone, happy not to go through the "will he play, won't he play" stuff, then why are they pissed of if he plays for another team? Those people believe he's no good anymore at QB so why be pissed he's playing for another team? Maybe the pissed off part has a bit to do with some fear that he might just have "it" left in the old tank ......and maybe deep down some wish he would have played for the Packers ONE more year. But admitting that would be doubting TT and company......and we know that's forbidden here.

Some of us are pissed that he put us thru the will he won't he for years and then retired..and somehow blames the pack.

We put up with it, we put up with his lack of dedication, etc.

We didnt' want him to retire, but if he did..then stay retired. Nobody forced him to make the decision.

Finally, none of us are upset because Favre may still have it. He clearly doesn't.

But, nice try at trolling on TT and company.

[GrnBay007]

Brett is telling us that our relationship is not that special, that isn't worth much to him..or that he feels he can get by.

Sorry. But another way to look at it.....

was TT and company that told "us" that Brett's relationship with the packers was not that special.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Brett is like a husband or wife that cheats. Yes, you can get past it, yes you can stay married, yes you can still love that person...but, ultimately, the love and relationship you have after the affair is never the same.

Oh Ty, I'll always take you back even after all your weeks away on those drug "binges". I love you man!

I know you would.

But, i dont' think you could stand to be second fiddle to Soup!!!!!!!!!

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Brett is telling us that our relationship is not that special, that isn't worth much to him..or that he feels he can get by.

Sorry. But another way to look at it.....

was TT and company that told "us" that Brett's relationship with the packers was not that special.

How so? By offering him 20 million.

TT didn't force him to retire.

P.S. TT and the packers have nothing to do with how the fans and brett get along. Nice try. Brett and the Pack are like the parents and we are the children.

Divorce doesn't mean i have to hate my mom or my dad. But, if one or the other acts like a douche....then you can hate them...while still loving them.

[Partial]

I think some of you are out of touch with how NFL veterans and HOFers are treated. Mike Strahan and Jonathan Ogden were both leaders of the defense and offense respectively, and both have waited until TC or just before to make their decision whether they were going to retire or return.

I guess I just don't see how it matters that much, personally. If they don't have a suitable back-up in place and were looking to draft/sign a guy to play there in the event the guy is gone... they should probably draft/sign the guy for insurance anyway.

Having a bonafide starter who understands the system skip OTAs isn't a horrible thing imo. It gives the young guys a chance to get their feet wet and get a better student/teacher ratio for a few days and get more reps.

If there is a new system in place, then yes, said veteran should be in OTAs. When you're doing the same system over and over and over again, I really don't have a huge problem with them skipping. It almost seems like Favre was held to a standard higher than all the other veterans in the NFL.

[GrnBay007]

But, nice try at trolling on TT and company.

"trolling"........funny!!!