McCarthy ranked 16th

[Pacopete4]

the other thing thats hard to dispute is that MM is 5-1 against Chilly... granted they split last season with Rodgers and was 4-0 with Favre... but its still gotta swing towards MM as being rated higher as a coach

[SMACKTALKIE]

the other thing thats hard to dispute is that MM is 5-1 against Chilly... granted they split last season with Rodgers and was 4-0 with Favre... but its still gotta swing towards MM as being rated higher as a coach

Minus one significant ass kicking (34 to 0?) were'nt all the other meetings decided by 3 pointss or less?

I know Chilly has a great record against the Bears. Would common opponents factor into the rankings?

[Pacopete4]

the other thing thats hard to dispute is that MM is 5-1 against Chilly... granted they split last season with Rodgers and was 4-0 with Favre... but its still gotta swing towards MM as being rated higher as a coach

Minus one significant ass kicking (34 to 0?) were'nt all the other meetings decided by 3 pointss or less?

I know Chilly has a great record against the Bears. Would common opponents factor into the rankings?

I think if you were to make a comparison, yes.. common opponents would have to but I'm still not sure they'd be enough to make up for a 5-1 record. Coaching becomes that much more crucial in close games.. so I dunno. I do know this, say Chilly wins both this year against the Pack.. he'll be earning that ranking a lot more than he does now I think.

[Fred's Slacks]

Well since none of you seem able to get along on this thread, and you have gone so far off topic I'll try to stir the pot here.

Chilly: 24 and 24, MM: 27 and 21

Childress's ranking is higher on this list because of the Favre factor. MM and Chilly are only 3 games apart in total record. MM won 21 of his 27 victories with a hall of fame QB at the helm and followed that up with 6 wins out of 16 with an "average" QB. (I like Rodgers but he's not Favre yet.)

Chilly has won all of his 24 with either a re-tread or highly inexperienced QB. He's had AD for 18 of his wins but only used him as a starter in his last year and a half.

Chilly has steadily improved (6-10, 8-8, 10-6) implying he is improving the team and his coaching as he acquires more players that fit his system, and the players that were there before him have picked up the system.

MM has waivered in his record (8-8, 13-3, 6-10) leading one to wonder if his strength was based on talent or coaching. Going from 13-3 to 6-10 has to hurt MM's ranking.

Good post. That's an argument I might buy. I would add, however, that Chilly inherited a 9-7 team. M3 on the other hand inherited a 4-12 team. So before last year we saw the steady improvement to the point to where we were a FG away from the SB. Then we lost our HOF QB (though I think that had little to do with the drop in record), but more importantly had a disastrous and drama filled offseason, and our D was decimated by injuries ( I know, ) leading to 6-10.

[Fred's Slacks]

If Crosby makes that FG against MN, do these rankings look different?

[SMACKTALKIE]

If Crosby makes that FG against MN, do these rankings look different?

That's just football. There were a handfull of plays, for both teams, in all games (except one) that could have changed the outcome.

As for the teams inheirited you make a good point. Although losing a pro bowl QB in C-pep hurt, the Pack going from 4-12 to 13-3 in 3 years is significant.

Please remember that the Vikings lost their best player on D (as voted on by the Team's players and coaches) last season in E.J. Henderson.

[sheepshead]

If Crosby makes that FG against MN, do these rankings look different?

Again, I like MM but I dont think he has earned a place of high regard thus far.

[Fritz]

I don't think the 16th best coach by reputation lands Capers to coordinate the D. Nor does he get Trgovac or Perry.

This list, at first glance, seems to be the teams record over the last two, three or four years. And how can you be the worst coaches (Morris and McDaniels) when you have never been the head coach?

Those who have experience, even poor record wise, have more wins than those 2. Therefore they are the worst.

I would agree, except that I believe they ranked Jim Schwartz around 20th. So he's a better head coach apparently than other head coaches before he's ever even run a training camp, much less managed a game.

Weird. I think that might make me an average novelist although I've never written a novel before. I have, however, edited many others' works and have read many novels.

Wow. I feel better about myself already. I'm an okay novelist now! And I didn't even have to write one!

[Ballboy]

If Crosby makes that FG against MN, do these rankings look different?

That's just football. There were a handfull of plays, for both teams, in all games (except one) that could have changed the outcome.

As for the teams inheirited you make a good point. Although losing a pro bowl QB in C-pep hurt, the Pack going from 4-12 to 13-3 in 3 years is significant.

Please remember that the Vikings lost their best player on D (as voted on by the Team's players and coaches) last season in E.J. Henderson.

I liked EJ coming out of Maryland, but without the Williams wall and Jared, the defense would really be nothing....EJ was made to look even better by those three players...Sorry.

[SMACKTALKIE]

If Crosby makes that FG against MN, do these rankings look different?

That's just football. There were a handfull of plays, for both teams, in all games (except one) that could have changed the outcome.

As for the teams inheirited you make a good point. Although losing a pro bowl QB in C-pep hurt, the Pack going from 4-12 to 13-3 in 3 years is significant.

Please remember that the Vikings lost their best player on D (as voted on by the Team's players and coaches) last season in E.J. Henderson.

I liked EJ coming out of Maryland, but without the Williams wall and Jared, the defense would really be nothing....EJ was made to look even better by those three players...Sorry.

What do you mean sorry? Again that's football. That's the reason your LB's look horrible, lack of D Line.