Favre: the man, the legend. Are we having fun yet?

[gex]

Thompson is a terrible GM, if you want to defend a man who has presided over the worst span of Packer football in 20 years while running the man who took Green Bay back to national prominence out of town then by all means do so, you will look quite foolish doing so, to me anyway. What about Thompson's Kool-Aid is so tasty that fans like you can't resist it? Is it his remarkable 31-33 record since taking over as GM? Was it his bumbling of the situation with Favre that made you a believer? Was it last years 7 game backslide? I need to know what it is that makes people blindly defend the man, it's quite interesting to me. Ted Thompson has one more year left in Green Bay, then hopefully after this years 7-9 campaign the Board of Directors will come to their senses and fire this horrible GM who has tainted the good name of this organization.

Why don't you make up more statistics to support your point?!?

GB Packers 88-91 under Infante were 24-40. But don't let facts stop your rant.

Look at it this way, TD, As a GM, you don't look at what happened 10 years ago (Favre singlehandedly bringing the franchise back without any help from his line, receivers, kickass special teams--who was the SB MVP again?--or amazing defense), you look to what is going to make your team stronger for the NEXT 10 years. And I would ask, if the GM is responsible for the 10 game backslide, he's also responsible for the record you backslid FROM. Ted Thompson got his team to one interception from the SuperBowl. He was named Exec of the Year and is most certainly not on the hot seat now. I suggest you get used to his presence because even if you whine yourself blue in the face (which may have already happened for all I know), he will still be there.

Ron Wolf Mike Holmgren, Brett Favre, and Reggie White. Ron Wolf hired Mike Holmgren, trade a number one draft pick for Favre.

Favre plays game against a Philly with Reggie White in 1992. Favre seperates his left shoulder after taking a crushing hit from Reggie White. White thinks Favre is done. Next series Favre comes running back on the field to lead the Packers back to win the game in the second half. Reggie is astounded by the heart and leadership of a young Favre.

White is free agent in 2003, he can chose to go any where he wants for any amount of money. Wolf offers White 17 million dollars. He chooses Green Bay, because of God, and the money, but also he realized he had a QB on his team that could take this team further than he had ever been in the playoffs.

White starts slowly recruiting defensive players to come to Green Bay, Sean Jones, Santana Dotson, and Keith Jackson on offense.

The best player on offense that Favre ever played with was Sterling Sharpe. He was lost in 1995 before the Packers ever made the Super Bowl, was never on a team that went to an NFC Championship game. Favre had a pretty ordinary offensive line in the 1990s the only Pro Bowl linemen was Frank Winters, and I think he was an alternate. Ziggy, without looking it up(which you will) name the starting left tackle in the 1996 Super Bowl for the Packers.

How many pro bowls did any running back, tight end, wide receiver make after playing with Favre?

Ron Wolf was a fantastic GM, but he had his misses in the draft especially in early rounds, but he made up for it in later rounds and he did a fantastic job of acquiring veterans to blend with younger players. Wolf wasn't afraid once his roster was solidified to go after those one or two players that put the team over the top. Keith Jackson, Dotson, Eugene Robinson, Sean Jones, and Ahman Green.

Mike Homgren, biggest accomplishement was taking Favre and turning him into a three time MVP. Next was being one of the best head coaches of his time, excellent with his hiring of coaches, especially on defense. West Coast genius. Cost the Packers in 1997 another Super Bowl, with is underhanding pleading for a Job as a GM and Head coach for a team on the West Coast. Lost focus on winning the second Super Bowl. Lost focus on his 1998 team.

I will never say that Favre did it all himself. I don't think the Packers win a Super Bowl play for another one, and make four NFC Championship games without Brett Favre.

OK way to set it down Nutz. Noone's messin' with you on this post.

I'll 2nd that Woody, very spot on Nutz.

[pbmax]

Bruce Wilkerson?

Yes, a name never mention in contract negotiations by agents of Left Tackles.

[pbmax]

Chris Werdenson reports that the Vikes have sent a trainer to Minnesota to check on Favre. He is also headed to New York today for Buck's interview.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/...-visits-favre/

[cpk1994]

Chris Werdenson reports that the Vikes have sent a trainer to Minnesota to check on Favre. He is also headed to New York today for Buck's interview.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/...-visits-favre/

Do they know if Favre took a shit before or after he his flight? How about what he is having for dinner?

[Chevelle2]

Why do I have a feeling that nothing of substance is going to be said tonight?

[Scott Campbell]

If you had to say which player Howard or Favre played a stronger role in Packer history who would you vote for MJ?

After thoughtful consideration, I'm voting for Brett Favre. I hope that's not too controversial of a position to take.

[Pacopete4]

Why do I have a feeling that nothing of substance is going to be said tonight?

Who cares?

[Scott Campbell]

Why do I have a feeling that nothing of substance is going to be said tonight?

What's the difference?

If he said something of substance, would you believe him anyway?

[MJZiggy]

If you had to say which player Howard or Favre played a stronger role in Packer history who would you vote for MJ?

My precise point was that what happened in history has no bearing on the team's future going forward. That's the part you don't get. What happened in that Super Bowl is completly irrelevant to the queation of whether TT should have gone with A-Rod. It's about maximizing your potential for the best outcome and a Super Bowl from a decade past means nothing to that objective.

[cpk1994]

Why do I have a feeling that nothing of substance is going to be said tonight?

The Force is strong with this one.

[Chevelle2]

So what now, we just sit around and wait until his arm heals?

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Why do I have a feeling that nothing of substance is going to be said tonight?

The Force is strong with this one.

This is not the QB you are looking for!

[Tyrone Bigguns]

So what now, they just sit around and wait until his arm heals?

Fixed.

[Deputy Nutz]

Bruce Wilkerson?

Yes, a name never mention in contract negotiations by agents of Left Tackles.

Good job, to bad Ziggy couldn't come up with it before you.

[Fritz]

So what now, we just sit around and wait until his arm heals?

I'm confident that Favre will be back in football, with the Vikings. He's already decided that his shoulder will be better - at first, in the Buck interview, it's all "maybe" and "if the arm heals" but as the interview goes on, it's clear that in Favre's head he's already a Queen. It was "we" this and "we" that.

We - audience "we" - also learned that while at first Favre tried to play off the level of discussion between himself and the team as casual, the Vikings and Favre have already discussed him being at the OTA's, that the Vikings sent a trainer down to Mississippi to help with the rehab, and that thus the level of interest and contact has been much more than casual.

He'll play, I believe, unless his shoulder is a total, complete wreck. Even if it's kinda sorta okay, I think he'll play.