Favre: the man, the legend. Are we having fun yet?

[falco]

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/watchdog/blog/2009/06/brett_favre_to_guest_on_joe_bu.html

HBO announced Brett Favre has joined the roster of guests for the debut episode of "Joe Buck Live" Monday night.

this may be interesting... haha

It may, but also seems like Favre has gotten a kick at times out of showing up and saying nothing. Remember the press conference for his golf outing where he simply said "I have nothing to say" and claimed he didn't know where the story came from?

[Tyrone Bigguns]

It seems to me that there are a number of posters here who just attempt to be contradictory, rather than ever express a legitimate opinion.

Wrong!

[falco]

It seems to me that there are a number of posters here who just attempt to be contradictory, rather than ever express a legitimate opinion.

Wrong!

Drat! Bested again.

[MJZiggy]

P, they TELEVISE our scrimmage games nationally. Do you turn the sound off or something? The announcers spend the whole game astounded at the turnout for a SCRIMMAGE game, "it's just like a practice and here the fans are!" "Right, but the fans show up at all the practices that are open.

I live within spitting distance of TWO NFL franchises (one with a rather rabid fan base) and I can tell you that this kind of fan participation is not seen here. There are just too many other options for people what with all the baseball teams, basketball, soccer, etc., etc., ad nauseum.

They don't televise them nationally. The televise family night locally. It's an entire family fest weekend. It's a lot more than just a scrimmage.

I personally prefer the atmosphere and dedication of fans to the college game. I enjoy Badger games more than a Packer game, for example.

Bullshit, I watch it every year. I don't live in Green Bay, dear. It sells out and the announcers positively rave over the crowd and the fans--for good reason. Do NOT try to downplay that with me as it will never work. I see this team from a different perspective than you do. Go to practice in Chicago once and try to weave your way through the crowd and bring me back the photos. This team is Green Bay's team and the relationship between the fans and that team is unique in the league.

[pbmax]

P, they TELEVISE our scrimmage games nationally.

They don't televise them nationally. The televise family night locally. It's an entire family fest weekend. It's a lot more than just a scrimmage.

Bullshit, I watch it every year. I don't live in Green Bay, dear.

In lieu of Patlerized, can you Ziggized?

I think the NFL Network carried it last year.

Also remember, the Redskins phantom season ticket waiting list (at times listed at 200,000) is phony. For this year's tickets, they have been mailing people NOT on the list to buy partial season packages. Whatever number the Packers give seems real to me, every year I move up about 12 places.

[pbmax]

Favre is going on TV Monday night with Joe Buck. I don't think I can watch. And it won't be Favre that presents the problem. Its Buck's new show on HBO.

Greta Loses Out to a Baseball Guy

[Scott Campbell]

Look at the way the light just glistens off his helmet.

[cpk1994]

P, they TELEVISE our scrimmage games nationally. Do you turn the sound off or something? The announcers spend the whole game astounded at the turnout for a SCRIMMAGE game, "it's just like a practice and here the fans are!" "Right, but the fans show up at all the practices that are open.

I live within spitting distance of TWO NFL franchises (one with a rather rabid fan base) and I can tell you that this kind of fan participation is not seen here. There are just too many other options for people what with all the baseball teams, basketball, soccer, etc., etc., ad nauseum.

They don't televise them nationally. The televise family night locally. It's an entire family fest weekend. It's a lot more than just a scrimmage.

I personally prefer the atmosphere and dedication of fans to the college game. I enjoy Badger games more than a Packer game, for example.

It WAS televised nationally in the past. Don't be an ass.

[Deputy Nutz]

Thompson is a terrible GM, if you want to defend a man who has presided over the worst span of Packer football in 20 years while running the man who took Green Bay back to national prominence out of town then by all means do so, you will look quite foolish doing so, to me anyway. What about Thompson's Kool-Aid is so tasty that fans like you can't resist it? Is it his remarkable 31-33 record since taking over as GM? Was it his bumbling of the situation with Favre that made you a believer? Was it last years 7 game backslide? I need to know what it is that makes people blindly defend the man, it's quite interesting to me. Ted Thompson has one more year left in Green Bay, then hopefully after this years 7-9 campaign the Board of Directors will come to their senses and fire this horrible GM who has tainted the good name of this organization.

Why don't you make up more statistics to support your point?!?

GB Packers 88-91 under Infante were 24-40. But don't let facts stop your rant.

Look at it this way, TD, As a GM, you don't look at what happened 10 years ago (Favre singlehandedly bringing the franchise back without any help from his line, receivers, kickass special teams--who was the SB MVP again?--or amazing defense), you look to what is going to make your team stronger for the NEXT 10 years. And I would ask, if the GM is responsible for the 10 game backslide, he's also responsible for the record you backslid FROM. Ted Thompson got his team to one interception from the SuperBowl. He was named Exec of the Year and is most certainly not on the hot seat now. I suggest you get used to his presence because even if you whine yourself blue in the face (which may have already happened for all I know), he will still be there.

Ron Wolf Mike Holmgren, Brett Favre, and Reggie White. Ron Wolf hired Mike Holmgren, trade a number one draft pick for Favre.

Favre plays game against a Philly with Reggie White in 1992. Favre seperates his left shoulder after taking a crushing hit from Reggie White. White thinks Favre is done. Next series Favre comes running back on the field to lead the Packers back to win the game in the second half. Reggie is astounded by the heart and leadership of a young Favre.

White is free agent in 2003, he can chose to go any where he wants for any amount of money. Wolf offers White 17 million dollars. He chooses Green Bay, because of God, and the money, but also he realized he had a QB on his team that could take this team further than he had ever been in the playoffs.

White starts slowly recruiting defensive players to come to Green Bay, Sean Jones, Santana Dotson, and Keith Jackson on offense.

The best player on offense that Favre ever played with was Sterling Sharpe. He was lost in 1995 before the Packers ever made the Super Bowl, was never on a team that went to an NFC Championship game. Favre had a pretty ordinary offensive line in the 1990s the only Pro Bowl linemen was Frank Winters, and I think he was an alternate. Ziggy, without looking it up(which you will) name the starting left tackle in the 1996 Super Bowl for the Packers.

How many pro bowls did any running back, tight end, wide receiver make after playing with Favre?

Ron Wolf was a fantastic GM, but he had his misses in the draft especially in early rounds, but he made up for it in later rounds and he did a fantastic job of acquiring veterans to blend with younger players. Wolf wasn't afraid once his roster was solidified to go after those one or two players that put the team over the top. Keith Jackson, Dotson, Eugene Robinson, Sean Jones, and Ahman Green.

Mike Homgren, biggest accomplishement was taking Favre and turning him into a three time MVP. Next was being one of the best head coaches of his time, excellent with his hiring of coaches, especially on defense. West Coast genius. Cost the Packers in 1997 another Super Bowl, with is underhanding pleading for a Job as a GM and Head coach for a team on the West Coast. Lost focus on winning the second Super Bowl. Lost focus on his 1998 team.

I will never say that Favre did it all himself. I don't think the Packers win a Super Bowl play for another one, and make four NFC Championship games without Brett Favre.

[HarveyWallbangers]

It WAS televised nationally in the past. Don't be an ass.

Agreed. NFL Network is national, and they've covered it the last few years. I've been able to watch.

[Deputy Nutz]

It WAS televised nationally in the past. Don't be an ass.

Agreed. NFL Network is national, and they've covered it the last few years. I've been able to watch.

Was it live? Because if it wasn't live it doesn't count.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Was it live? Because if it wasn't live it doesn't count.

Yes. Well, at least one or two years. Last year, it might not have been. Actually, I think it was--because I remember watching Favre getting off the plane and all that.

[Chevelle2]

I hope this Buck interview is the funniest thing smokin.

[Deputy Nutz]

Was it live? Because if it wasn't live it doesn't count.

Yes. Well, at least one or two years. Last year, it might not have been. Actually, I think it was--because I remember watching Favre getting off the plane and all that.

So only because of Favre was it shown live. See, it all still revolves around Favre.

I was being sarcastic in the first place, but I think Green Bay fans have come to expect a lot over the past 15 years or so, and they don't get all that excited about 40 yard touchdown pass, or a 15 yard touchdown run. It usually takes a game winning drive with seconds left in the 4th quarter.

[th87]

For many of us, football in Wisconsin is the closest thing to religion, other than religion. So when someone who you thought would uphold your almost-religion goes to the almost-religion's worst enemy, it is understandable that there would be hard feelings.

And on the other hand, there are others who either see it as just entertainment, or is just a fan of a certain player. These people don't see why there would be hostility over an entertainment figure.

We need to try harder to see it from each other's perspectives.