Nelson or Jones

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Don't see what you guys see with Nelson. I think he was very underwhelming, and far less impressive as a rookie than Jones was.

[Gunakor]

Don't see what you guys see with Nelson. I think he was very underwhelming, and far less impressive as a rookie than Jones was.

He's consistent. He's not as tough a SOB as Jones is, but you can throw the ball to him and expect he'll catch it nearly every time. One dropped ball in 16 games played as a rookie is extremely impressive IMO.

[RashanGary]

We definitely have different impressions of James Jones. I agree Jordy is better, but I don't agree that Jones has all of the problems you listed.

I like Jones as a third WR and maybe a serviceable 2nd WR eventually. He has his strengths and weaknesses--just like most 3rd WRs. You seem to think he's on the path to greatness. He has strong hands, but drops too many because he lacks focus at times. He runs pretty good routes. He has good shakeability. He generally isn't that good after contact.

I see him as a guy who could put up a few 70 catch, 900 yard seasons. I don't think he's Greg Jennings. I like Nelson better because he's so reliable and well rounded. I think Nelson is the perfect compliment to Jennngs as a starter. Jones is going to make a lot of plays though. As soon as Driver steps aside, you'll see big numbers from Jones.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Don't see what you guys see with Nelson. I think he was very underwhelming, and far less impressive as a rookie than Jones was.

He's consistent. He's not as tough a SOB as Jones is, but you can throw the ball to him and expect he'll catch it nearly every time. One dropped ball in 16 games played as a rookie is extremely impressive IMO.

Great hands. Great size. He made a few people miss--although he's no Greg Jennings. Jordy Nelson = future Kevin Walter, and that wouldn't be bad.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Nelson looked polished as a rookie. None of the recievers on the Packers roster showed as much talent in their rookie season. Nelson is smooth, elusive and plenty fast enough. A natural.

I think Nelson will be one of the key playmakers, head and shoulders ahead of Jones.

[Bossman641]

We definitely have different impressions of James Jones. I agree Jordy is better, but I don't agree that Jones has all of the problems you listed.

I like Jones as a third WR and maybe a serviceable 2nd WR eventually. He has his strengths and weaknesses--just like most 3rd WRs. You seem to think he's on the path to greatness. He has strong hands, but drops too many because he lacks focus at times. He runs pretty good routes. He has good shakeability. He generally isn't that good after contact.

I can't figure out what the deal with Jones is, if the dropped passes are a result of lack of focus or if his hands aren't that great. He seems to pluck the ball from the air really well on occassion, so I don't think it's hands, but then again even on some of the balls he did catch he sorta double-caught them a little bit.

[RashanGary]

HH and Harvey. On a scale of 1-10, what kind of a player do you think James Jones is and what kind of player do you think Jordy Nelson is? You make the contrast sound very sharp and I'm not so sure I agree. Also, what kind of seasons can we expect out of Nelson (production) and what out of Jones?

[HarveyWallbangers]

HH and Harvey. On a scale of 1-10, what kind of a player do you think James Jones is and what kind of player do you think Jordy Nelson is? You make the contrast sound very sharp and I'm not so sure I agree. Also, what kind of seasons can we expect out of Nelson (production) and what out of Jones?

Right now, I like Nelson slightly more. I don't think his upside is significantly higher than Jones, but I think the gap between them will increase slightly as we go forward. I think Nelson has better hands--although I think Jones has the potential to clean up the drops. Nelson has better deep speed. Jones has a bit more suddenness. I think Nelson has shown a bit more potential to use his size and speed to make yards after the catch. I'm not saying there's a huge difference between them, but that's how I see it.

[Harlan Huckleby]

you can't directly compare a rookie season with a 3rd year pro. The rookie year is just a flash of their potential that may or may not flourish. I think Nelson is going to be the pick of the litter, but that is speculation.

[RashanGary]

you can't directly compare a rookie season with a 3rd year pro. The rookie year is just a flash of their potential that may or may not flourish. I think Nelson is going to be the pick of the litter, but that is speculation.

I'm a big Nelson fan too. I think he's the perfect compliment to Jennings. That doesn't mean I don't think Jones can be a 1000 yard receiver. Jones has that type of potential. If you think Jones is a #3 that's not capable of 700-1000 yard seasons consistently then we greatly disagree on James Jones. If you think Jones can put up those types of numbers but still like Nelson better then we're in general agreement.

[Joemailman]

Jones had nearly 700 yards receiving in 2007, before running into the proverbial rookie wall. Yes, the same one that Jennings ran into in 2006. It remains to be seen if he can make the next step up as Jennings did, but what he did in 2007 was very impressive. There is little reason to think he can't top 2007 if given the chance, and provided he stays healthy.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Always bet on black!

[HarveyWallbangers]

I'm a big Nelson fan too. I think he's the perfect compliment to Jennings. That doesn't mean I don't think Jones can be a 1000 yard receiver. Jones has that type of potential. If you think Jones is a #3 that's not capable of 700-1000 yard seasons consistently then we greatly disagree on James Jones. If you think Jones can put up those types of numbers but still like Nelson better then we're in general agreement.

Jones is unlikely to put up 700-1000 yards as the #3--unless there are injuries. It isn't too tough to put up 700 yards as a #2 receiver. That wouldn't make him any more than average. Heck, as a #2 receiver, Ruvell could probably put 700 yards as a starter. Even as a #2, I don't see him putting up 1000 yards consistently. Maybe he does it as a fluke one year because there isn't much else around him (ala Bill Schroeder). Of course, a lot depends on the offense and who is throwing the ball. I think he's limited by his below average speed. I tried to think of a comparison, but I'm not sure there really is one. His game maybe resembles the older Muhsin Muhammad, but he doesn't quite have Muhsin's size.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Jones had nearly 700 yards receiving in 2007, before running into the proverbial rookie wall. Yes, the same one that Jennings ran into in 2006. It remains to be seen if he can make the next step up as Jennings did, but what he did in 2007 was very impressive. There is little reason to think he can't top 2007 if given the chance, and provided he stays healthy.

I think he can be a good #3 or serviceable #2, but I think he caught some people by surprise that year. He had 432 yards the first half of that year, but only had 244 yards the second half. I think teams caught up with him a bit.

[RashanGary]

33 receivers had over 800 yards last season. If James Jones can be 125 yards better than he was in his rookie season as a 22 year old kid out of San Jose State, then he'll be in the top 33. That's not borderline legit #3 receiver numbers unless you think borderline #1 WR numbers are what you should expect out of your #3/#4 WR.

I'd call Jones a legit starting talent.