Nelson or Jones

[Scott Campbell]

I don't doubt that Nelson might end up being good or even better than Jones, but there are a couple pages of posters being critical of Jones. I don't disagree that Jones has some big question marks, however, those critical of Jones should be equally critical of Nelson.

Jordy hasn't cost us a game yet - the way Jones did with his 2 fumbles against the Bears in 07. Jordy stayed healthy too.

[sharpe1027]

Go ahead. What would you criticize Nelson on? What abilities is he lacking? What are his strengths? I think I stated several times what I did and didn't like about both guys.

Harv,

I explained both sides already, and was told I was being too critical of Nelson. There is no right or wrong answer. To summarize, IMO, Jones shows some promise but some problems. Jordy just seems average, no problems, no great plays. Either one could be considered more valuable depending upon your perspective.

Maybe we should just flip a coin?

[sharpe1027]

Jordy hasn't cost us a game yet - the way Jones did with his 2 fumbles against the Bears in 07. Jordy stayed healthy too..

Yes. I still like Jones, but that makes it a close call for me. Jones was health his first year too...

[rbaloha1]

I don't doubt that Nelson might end up being good or even better than Jones, but there are a couple pages of posters being critical of Jones. I don't disagree that Jones has some big question marks, however, those critical of Jones should be equally critical of Nelson.

Jordy hasn't cost us a game yet - the way Jones did with his 2 fumbles against the Bears in 07. Jordy stayed healthy too.

Good point. So far, Nelson has not screwed up as much as Jones with fumbles, drops and excuses. Jones is still a good player but needs to show more consistency.

[Scott Campbell]

Go ahead. What would you criticize Nelson on? What abilities is he lacking? What are his strengths? I think I stated several times what I did and didn't like about both guys.

Harv,

I explained both sides already, and was told I was being too critical of Nelson. There is no right or wrong answer. To summarize, IMO, Jones shows some promise but some problems. Jordy just seems average, no problems, no great plays. Either one could be considered more valuable depending upon your perspective.

Maybe we should just flip a coin?

I haven't done the research, but it seems to me like Jordy was a very frequent target on critical 3rd downs. I know what you're saying about him looking average, but it was his 3rd down receptions that impressed me most about him last year.

[sharpe1027]

I haven't done the research, but it seems to me like Jordy was a very frequent target on critical 3rd downs. I know what you're saying about him looking average, but it was his 3rd down receptions that impressed me most about him last year.

Good point, I can remember a few for sure. Another plus is that a QB having confidence that you will catch anything goes a long way to getting more balls thrown your way.

Maybe I am rooting for the underdog, but there are plenty of good players that had some ball-control issues early in their careers. Sometimes it is an easy fix, sometimes it is just bad luck. other times the guy gets shown the door. I am hoping for the first two times.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I'm not sure there is even an underdog. Both were unheralded coming out of high school. Sort of unheralded coming out of college... Jordy in the 2nd round and JJ in the 3rd round. Both had solid rookie seasons. People think both are solid players but likely won't be stars. The vote is close.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I think I need to adjust my TV set. I saw Jones drop ball after ball last season. I can't believe so many people see him as having the same upside as Nelson.

[chain_gang]

Overall, it's a flip of the coin, I think both can be a valuable at #3. That being said, I voted for Jones. Jones seem to have more of a knack for making big plays, sure he had a terrible game against the bears his rookie year, but he also played a huge part in our win at Denver, I believe he beat Bailey badly for a 79 yard TD during that game, and even last year when he was healthy is still a threat for big plays(Jacksonville game). His route running is also pretty impressive to me. Also, anyone that can do this gets the nod in my book.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCnJpjj5jHk

As for Jordy, he does have talent, and size, but until I can see some explosiveness out of him, I gotta give the nod to Jones, barring injury.

[SkinBasket]

Does James Jones even still play for the Packers?

[Gunakor]

Does James Jones even still play for the Packers?

Yes, and I'm glad. I agree with the sentiment expressed here that Jones could be a legitimate #2 caliber WR, and thus am very pleased that he'll be our #4. Both Jones and Nelson would make outstanding #2's on most other teams. I just don't think that, even considering his ability to make plays from time to time, he'll overtake Nelson for the #3 spot on OUR team due to his inconsistency.

[sharpe1027]

I think I need to adjust my TV set. I saw Jones drop ball after ball last season. I can't believe so many people see him as having the same upside as Nelson.

No, you have it all wrong. Jones has more upside than Nelson, not the same.

Nelson was more consistent with less upside, Jones was less consistent with more upside.

Where exactly are you coming from regarding Nelson's upside? He seemed to be able to block and catch the ball when it was thrown his way. Nothing else stood out to me.

The answer to the question is unkowable, unprovable and highly-subjective. I won't be the least bit surprised if I end up being completely wrong. For the sake of this discussion, however, I still vote for Jones to do more this coming year.

[Ryche]

Jones is a beast... Nelson will needs to show me more before i call him a beast. ...

[rbaloha1]

I think I need to adjust my TV set. I saw Jones drop ball after ball last season. I can't believe so many people see him as having the same upside as Nelson.

Jones probably has more upside. The question is will Jones reach upside like Freeman, Brooks, Sharpe, Driver and Jennings or be a Schroeder?

My guess is more a Schroeder type rather than an elite receiver.

[woodbuck27]

Jordy Nelson has the draft position, the tools and the reputation out of college. He will step it up this season.