Favre Prediction Thread

[Merlin]

Ras wants the Vikings to win? Gee now there is a shocker! If Favre comes back I wish him success to the point it does not cost the Packers success. I will enjoy watching him play as always and it is possible to root for a player and not a team.

I am not as optimistic as our GM when it comes to the personnel we have (specifically the offensive line and lack of depth at RB) and the changes on defense. I hope his gamble pays off to jump up and take a LB, a position I didn't think we really needed at this time. Our secondary is aging so here's to hoping Woodson and Harris can make the proper adjustments to Capers schemes, if Capers runs a lot of zone, Harris is going to be useless.

[Fritz]

And I believe that MN will become the hot ticket for incoming coaches after Chilly gets fired. (if he doesn't win a playoff game)

We have a fella up here coaching the Montreal Alouettes named Marc Trestman who is something else. I believe he'll make an outstanding HC for some fortunate NFL team.

He has NFL coaching experience and has worked alot mentoring NFL QB's I understand. His players love his all in for the team attitude. No player is above another is his style. He's also got a superior offensive mind and approach.

Eventually we'll see him in the NFL and I'd love to see him as the Packer HC but I decided to post this for what it's worth.

Marc Trestman = a good one.

Then he'll never make it as an NFL head coach.

[gex]

. I will enjoy watching him play as always and it is possible to root for a player and not a team.

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I think anyone who plays fantasy football can attest to that. I used to think that people who played FF were being disloyal to their team, untill I started playing that is, now every week I have so many players from so many different teams that I want to put up big #'s its hard to keep track of. And like I said earlier in the thread, I'll be rooting for him to get 1 more shot before he is gone for good.

[Fritz]

Skol Vikings? Isn't Skol some kind of chewing tobacco?

You know, Walt Garrison's old TV commercial: "Hi, I'm Walt Garrison, and I don't smoke. But I still get pure tobacco pleasure from Skol, Copenhagen, and Happy Days Mint."

Or something like that.

[woodbuck27]

I continue with what I have said all along. He may actually lose a little effectiveness due to throwing less than usual. Which will also keep him healthy for the entire season. And, if he falters then Chilly immediately goes to Sage. Chilly has to get to a playoff win this year to keep his job. Can't worry about anyone's feelings at this point.

I understand your point and I agree with it. But I think you left out one part of the equation - The consecutive game streak.

Do you think Childress wants, as part of his legacy, to be the "guy" who sat down the consecutive game streak leader? That'd be tough, even if he found himself out of work for it. Barring an injury, it'll be tough to switch QB's. Even if there is an injury, doesn't Brett's recent history suggest he'll go whining to the media?

I think this is tougher than you think it is. But it'll be interesting, as there is little doubt that he'll play.

I agree with Fritz, that the record will be his so it may lessen the impact. But also, MN has proven that QB play is their achilles, it would only take decent play to win there, and Chilly didn't care last year when Frerotte and Jackson whined. Personally, I'd rather have a legacy of still working and winning than even considering being the "guy". But I hear ya. Sometimes though I wonder where this Chilly doesn't have the guts stuff comes from. I don't remember anything yet that fits that description. I may have forgotten though. I just think he makes the decisions he believes are best and they don't always get understood by outsiders.

Am I seeing Chilly right in terms of this observation? It seems to me that he gets very tight on the sidelines or acts nervous. I havn't seen the Vikings under Chilly play a lot, but when I have he seems strung out.

Is that observation accurate?

[woodbuck27]

Ras wants the Vikings to win? Gee now there is a shocker! If Favre comes back I wish him success to the point it does not cost the Packers success. I will enjoy watching him play as always and it is possible to root for a player and not a team.

I am not as optimistic as our GM when it comes to the personnel we have (specifically the offensive line and lack of depth at RB) and the changes on defense. I hope his gamble pays off to jump up and take a LB, a position I didn't think we really needed at this time. Our secondary is aging so here's to hoping Woodson and Harris can make the proper adjustments to Capers schemes, if Capers runs a lot of zone, Harris is going to be useless.

I think TT went LBer with that second pick because of plans to go to the 3-4 Defense. He picked up a good atlete as well and double downed on AJ Hawk.

I agree with you Merlin in regards to our depth in the secondary and specifically at CB. Al Harris is near gone and Woodson as great an athlete as he is is aging.

[woodbuck27]

comeback player of the year and superbowl appearance.....

Ohh heck! Let's not mess around here.

Favre will lead the Minnesota Vikings to the Super Bowl 'in Brett Favre's world' or why even continue. It's like Tom Watson at 59 years of age and last weeks stunning British Open results . Tom Watson said he wouldn't be in that great Championship if he didn't feel he could win.

He nearly and stunningly pulled it off. He had the imagination of the golfing world and who couldn't pull for him. He was one stroke up on the 18th of the final round. In the middle of the fairway. Just safely on and two putts for the win. Suddenly our world came crashing down with Tom Watson's.

I watched that man play golf last week and I totally understood Brett Favre and why the greatest continue to compete. It's the magic of the story. The saga. The Legend.

If Brett Favre ever gets his Viking team to the Super Bowl. He'll have a ton of NFL fans p-ulling for him. That's where it's at. How many of us will ever have that opportunity? How many of us may or not cheer for Favre if the Packers falter?

Only stubborness dictates a false heart.

I don't know Woody, I blead green and gold(got the tatoo to prove it), but I'll be rooting for his ass this year(his last).

I want my Packers to do well and make the playoffs( i might even put money on it),but, the Packers will always be here, and I would rather see the old man win one more before he rides off into the sunset.

Hey, thats just how I feel

You and me both Gex. Let's win one for the Gipper! We shall fight them on the land, we shall fight them on the sea. Gosh darn it, let's all pull together and see the old fellow hoist the Lombardi one more time.

Ok, a one and a two and...

Skol Vikings let's win this game, Skol Vikings honor your name.....

Rastak now that it appears certain Brett Favre will be your teams QB it all makes sense why you've been such a prominant and loyal supporter of Packerrats.

I'm looking forward to some objective analysis of his progress and play as a Viking this season from you Rastak.

GO PACK GO!

[Fritz]

Once and for all, the reason Chilly is seen as having no cojones is the mustache.

If he would just shave that stuff would all go away.

Only Bill Cowher can get away with a mustache like that. And maybe an 80's porn star.

[woodbuck27]

And I believe that MN will become the hot ticket for incoming coaches after Chilly gets fired. (if he doesn't win a playoff game)

We have a fella up here coaching the Montreal Alouettes named Marc Trestman who is something else. I believe he'll make an outstanding HC for some fortunate NFL team.

He has NFL coaching experience and has worked alot mentoring NFL QB's I understand. His players love his all in for the team attitude. No player is above another is his style. He's also got a superior offensive mind and approach.

Eventually we'll see him in the NFL and I'd love to see him as the Packer HC but I decided to post this for what it's worth.

Marc Trestman = a good one.

Then he'll never make it as an NFL head coach.

Why Fritz? Why won't Marc Trestman ever make it as an NFL HC?

Is that meant as a slam on me and my ability to assess a man I read about regularly Fritz and a main reason for the Alouettes success?

What is that post supposed to mean Fritz? What do you know of Marc Trestman to inform us that he doesn't have NFL HC ability? Back yourself up Fritz. There is plenty I read and have read that informs me otherwise Fritz.

Again. Marc Trestman is proving to be an excellent Head Coach and I do believe he will gain a spot as HC in the NFL soon. He's dedicated,personable and has gifted insight into how to run an offense. The Alouette players respect and like him immensely. He makes the game fun for them as well and he's fit in very well to the community of Montreal and that's not exactly small town status.

Mantreal is a big time city Fritz. Of course your likely aware of that fact.

The Montreal Alouettes are an institution here and runner up in the Grey Cup last season under Marc Trestman.

[hoosier]

And I believe that MN will become the hot ticket for incoming coaches after Chilly gets fired. (if he doesn't win a playoff game)

Are you aware of the irony in what you're saying? Back in January 2006 when Childress was hired here's what he had to say about the Vikings HC job:

In my mind out of these jobs that are open in the NFL this is the plum job in the National Football League, without a doubt, hands down. You can talk to nine out of 10 people and they are going to tell you that.

[Fritz]

And I believe that MN will become the hot ticket for incoming coaches after Chilly gets fired. (if he doesn't win a playoff game)

We have a fella up here coaching the Montreal Alouettes named Marc Trestman who is something else. I believe he'll make an outstanding HC for some fortunate NFL team.

He has NFL coaching experience and has worked alot mentoring NFL QB's I understand. His players love his all in for the team attitude. No player is above another is his style. He's also got a superior offensive mind and approach.

Eventually we'll see him in the NFL and I'd love to see him as the Packer HC but I decided to post this for what it's worth.

Marc Trestman = a good one.

Then he'll never make it as an NFL head coach.

Why Fritz? Why won't Marc Trestman ever make it as an NFL HC?

Is that meant as a slam on me and my ability to assess a man I read about regularly Fritz and a main reason for the Alouettes success?

What is that post supposed to mean Fritz? What do you know of Marc Trestman to inform us that he doesn't have NFL HC ability? Back yourself up Fritz. There is plenty I read and have read that informs me otherwise Fritz.

Again. Marc Trestman is proving to be an excellent Head Coach and I do believe he will gain a spot as HC in the NFL soon. He's dedicated,personable and has gifted insight into how to run an offense. The Alouette players respect and like him immensely. He makes the game fun for them as well and he's fit in very well to the community of Montreal and that's not exactly small town status.

Mantreal is a big time city Fritz. Of course your likely aware of that fact.

The Montreal Alouettes are an institution here and runner up in the Grey Cup last season under Marc Trestman.

Yes, Woody. True to my form, I have attacked you, personally and baselessly. I have denigrated your entire body of work, every post you have ever hit the "submit" button on. Yup, that's me. I've called you both male and female body parts, I've wrecked you, I've called into question your very essence as a human being. That's me.

Jay-sus, Woody, lighten up. My point is that the NFL is a star-driven system. You cannot - I repeat, cannot - treat every player the same in the NFL. You know damn well that Brett Favre or Randy Moss does not get the same treatment as Matt Flynn or Alfred Malone or Jamarko Simmons.

I was simply questioning whether a coach who truly treats all players the same - your claim I think - could possibly be a good NFL coach. That might - and might is the key word - work in the CFL, but it won't work in the NFL.

Okay?

[mngolf19]

And I believe that MN will become the hot ticket for incoming coaches after Chilly gets fired. (if he doesn't win a playoff game)

Are you aware of the irony in what you're saying? Back in January 2006 when Childress was hired here's what he had to say about the Vikings HC job:

In my mind out of these jobs that are open in the NFL this is the plum job in the National Football League, without a doubt, hands down. You can talk to nine out of 10 people and they are going to tell you that.

You bet Hoosier. You have good players, great ownership. Chilly has done ok with personnel decisions except for QB. And that may be the one thing that does him in. He was right in what he said(from a point of view), he just hasn't executed. I could see a great coach step in and make all the difference in the very same season.

[mngolf19]

I continue with what I have said all along. He may actually lose a little effectiveness due to throwing less than usual. Which will also keep him healthy for the entire season. And, if he falters then Chilly immediately goes to Sage. Chilly has to get to a playoff win this year to keep his job. Can't worry about anyone's feelings at this point.

I understand your point and I agree with it. But I think you left out one part of the equation - The consecutive game streak.

Do you think Childress wants, as part of his legacy, to be the "guy" who sat down the consecutive game streak leader? That'd be tough, even if he found himself out of work for it. Barring an injury, it'll be tough to switch QB's. Even if there is an injury, doesn't Brett's recent history suggest he'll go whining to the media?

I think this is tougher than you think it is. But it'll be interesting, as there is little doubt that he'll play.

I agree with Fritz, that the record will be his so it may lessen the impact. But also, MN has proven that QB play is their achilles, it would only take decent play to win there, and Chilly didn't care last year when Frerotte and Jackson whined. Personally, I'd rather have a legacy of still working and winning than even considering being the "guy". But I hear ya. Sometimes though I wonder where this Chilly doesn't have the guts stuff comes from. I don't remember anything yet that fits that description. I may have forgotten though. I just think he makes the decisions he believes are best and they don't always get understood by outsiders.

Am I seeing Chilly right in terms of this observation? It seems to me that he gets very tight on the sidelines or acts nervous. I havn't seen the Vikings under Chilly play a lot, but when I have he seems strung out.

Is that observation accurate?

Oh your absolutely right Woody. He does get that way on the sidelines. Acts like he's inexperieced. But I think that differs with having the guts to make some decisions. Or perhaps he just doesn't see it that way, just that it's got to be done whether anyone's happy or not. I think some of his decisions are pulled from his keister on a moments notice, while others are planned well in advance and acted on even if the situation doesn't fit.

[mraynrand]

Once and for all, the reason Chilly is seen as having no cojones is the mustache.

If he would just shave that stuff would all go away.

Only Bill Cowher can get away with a mustache like that. And maybe an 80's porn star.

Did someone mention my name?

[SnakeLH2006]

The consecutive game streak.

Do you think Childress wants, as part of his legacy, to be the "guy" who sat down the consecutive game streak leader? That'd be tough, even if he found himself out of work for it. Barring an injury, it'll be tough to switch QB's. Even if there is an injury, doesn't Brett's recent history suggest he'll go whining to the media?

I think this is tougher than you think it is. But it'll be interesting, as there is little doubt that he'll play.

Yep...It's a no doubter Brettie plays. I never thought I'd rue the day, Brettie became the attention ho he became, but bank it. Brett is the starting QB for the Vikes in 2009, no doubt. Snake still loves to see him play, but his pandering/attention whore shit even tires on the great Snake.

There is no doubt he plays, and even if he sucks (he'll be good or at least average) he'll keep playing no matter what. He's got legions of fans and most importantly ESPN behind his every poop/comment. I still like Brett, but hey, he plays till he's done playing. No way in HELL, Chilly benches him no matter what. Now, if the Vikes had some stud/proven player at QB besides him, perhaps they wouldn't bend over backwards to his (Favre's) every need. Realistically, I don't think he's a difference maker in 2009 at 40, yet Chilly sees it. If Brett (ok he will no doubt) signs, he (Brett is the coach...so sad for Vikes fans) but no WAY IN HELL Chilly steps in to break his starting streak. No fucking way. Nope.

The only coach (current or past) that would do it (have the balls) are as follows:

-Belicheck
-Parcells
-Lombardi

Yet those 3 guys know enough about football (or did) to know not to attach you wagon to the Brett bandwagon....Huge hopes, shattered dreams (for the most part).

Note: This is Snake's most negative post about Brett ever. I still like the guy, but so glad his drama is with our rival at 40. Not worried about him. I wish him the best (barring the Vikes beating the Pack or making the playoffs). But, just floored at how emo Brett has become in every passing year/week/day. Nothing surprises Snake anymore.