The Packers' Roster, the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

[ThunderDan]

Re: The Packers' Roster, the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

Johnson can ride the inactive pines, and if Kuhn or Hall are down, as they usually are for a couple games, Johnson can contribute on special teams.

Johnson is not going to be inactive. He is a f_cking sledgehammer. No way they don't let him clear out Urlacher on Sunday.

[Partial]

All three are going to be active to start against the bears because only 2 RBs are going to be active. I heard on WSSP that is one of the reasons they kept 3 guys there, as Kuhn has taken some reps at HB the past two weeks.

[Waldo]

Re: The Packers' Roster, the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

I think that Jones has the highest ceiling of any in this draft class. He looked crazy good in coverage compared to the rest of our OLB's. Dom had him over slot WR's vs. Tn and he didn't get burned.
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OK, I don't know exactly what you're talking about. I just scanned back through the entire game. After the first series, Matthews came in at LOLB, Thompson at ROLB. Matthews gave way to Jones, with Jones taking Thompson's spot and Thompson going over to ROLB. I watched every play until Jones went out in favor to Obie. Jones was only in coverage once - a crossing pattern where he got help from Lasagna. Otherwise, I saw him -as you said - do KGB-like upfield rushes - with two good ones, including a tackle on the QB coming back. Otherwise he got stoned hard by fourth round pick Troy Kropog and was shut out in the run game defense. They have to be keeping Jones for his potential.

I'm going to have to go dig it up. I've got them all on tape. Perhaps it wasn't vs. Tn.

Tomorrow when I get home from work I'll find it.

I think that it is the Az game.

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Notes:

Brad's is at LOLB right after the half.

2nd play he has blanket coverage on Az's starting TE in M2M on an out n up, couldn't be better coverage. Had the undercut on the out and inside leverage on the up.

3rd play he dropped into short zone, then drove on Beanie the second he cleared the line. Dumpoff wouldn't have been there if Leinart went to it.

Got around the starting RT on the outside speed rush, but Matt stepped up and out of the way.

Followed Urban (WR) over to the slot presnap. Outside sweep towards him. Same play that Beanie scored on in the first. Got nowhere.

Beanie released, he dropped in the short zone, broke up the pass to Beanie.

Then a bunch of zone drops where nobody came into his zone.

13:15 in the 4th he splits out wide at CB. Flanker and slot were right next to each other. He split the middle. Got a shot on the slot then pressed the flanker an dropped with him, with Ford over the top. Pass went elsewhere. Good hip flip to switch from pressing to coverage. Not beaten off the line.

Damn, they triple teamed a rush of his late. RT passed him to the C and RG.

Late the slot guy went in motion and stopped behind and slightly offset from the RT (deeper than a TE). He dropped with the WR, handed him off and picked up coverage on the flanker on a crosser. He had good coverage on the flanker. The DB's failed to pick up the handoff and the slot WR caught it.

He got a pressure on Leinart, forcing an errant throw, beat the RT clean on an outside speed rush. The ROLB never pulled up and got flagged for a late hit, but the refs called it on Jones (he pulled up).

Good flat coverage on the opposite flat where where lined up (defensive right flat). Leinart rolled that way, Jones took away his outlet, the deeper guys were covered too. Wynn got in to force a throwaway.

Same alignment, he dropped to the over coverage on the flanker, with a CB underneath (deep coverage). Kid can drop crazy fast.

.....I knew that I wasn't going crazy. Sorry, yeah, Az game, not the Tn game.

[Waldo]

Ruvell may have been a Break Glass In Case Of Emergency QB, but last year for instance, Brohm would have been inactive and eligible to be the actual 3rd QB. That is not the case for the practice squad.

They were talking that when Jones was hurt that little bit he was throwing, the beat guys commented that he could put heat on them. He was a HS QB.

[mraynrand]

Re: The Packers' Roster, the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

I think that Jones has the highest ceiling of any in this draft class. He looked crazy good in coverage compared to the rest of our OLB's. Dom had him over slot WR's vs. Tn and he didn't get burned.
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OK, I don't know exactly what you're talking about. I just scanned back through the entire game. After the first series, Matthews came in at LOLB, Thompson at ROLB. Matthews gave way to Jones, with Jones taking Thompson's spot and Thompson going over to ROLB. I watched every play until Jones went out in favor to Obie. Jones was only in coverage once - a crossing pattern where he got help from Lasagna. Otherwise, I saw him -as you said - do KGB-like upfield rushes - with two good ones, including a tackle on the QB coming back. Otherwise he got stoned hard by fourth round pick Troy Kropog and was shut out in the run game defense. They have to be keeping Jones for his potential.

I'm going to have to go dig it up. I've got them all on tape. Perhaps it wasn't vs. Tn.

Tomorrow when I get home from work I'll find it.

I think that it is the Az game.

......

Notes:

Brad's is at LOLB right after the half.

2nd play he has blanket coverage on Az's starting TE in M2M on an out n up, couldn't be better coverage. Had the undercut on the out and inside leverage on the up.

3rd play he dropped into short zone, then drove on Beanie the second he cleared the line. Dumpoff wouldn't have been there if Leinart went to it.

Got around the starting RT on the outside speed rush, but Matt stepped up and out of the way.

Followed Urban (WR) over to the slot presnap. Outside sweep towards him. Same play that Beanie scored on in the first. Got nowhere.

Beanie released, he dropped in the short zone, broke up the pass to Beanie.

Then a bunch of zone drops where nobody came into his zone.

13:15 in the 4th he splits out wide at CB. Flanker and slot were right next to each other. He split the middle. Got a shot on the slot then pressed the flanker an dropped with him, with Ford over the top. Pass went elsewhere. Good hip flip to switch from pressing to coverage. Not beaten off the line.

Damn, they triple teamed a rush of his late. RT passed him to the C and RG.

Late the slot guy went in motion and stopped behind and slightly offset from the RT (deeper than a TE). He dropped with the WR, handed him off and picked up coverage on the flanker on a crosser. He had good coverage on the flanker. The DB's failed to pick up the handoff and the slot WR caught it.

He got a pressure on Leinart, forcing an errant throw, beat the RT clean on an outside speed rush. The ROLB never pulled up and got flagged for a late hit, but the refs called it on Jones (he pulled up).

Good flat coverage on the opposite flat where where lined up (defensive right flat). Leinart rolled that way, Jones took away his outlet, the deeper guys were covered too. Wynn got in to force a throwaway.

Same alignment, he dropped to the over coverage on the flanker, with a CB underneath (deep coverage). Kid can drop crazy fast.

.....I knew that I wasn't going crazy. Sorry, yeah, Az game, not the Tn game.

Thanks. I wish I hadn't deleted it. Probably won't see him til next summer. Can't imagine he'll be game day active...

[mraynrand]

Re: The Packers' Roster, the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

Ya, they lose an emergency game day QB, but can anybody tell me the last time the Packers played an emergency QB?

vs. Giants, 2004

Who was the qb? How many snaps.

After Favre concussion, they went to Pederson then to ...NALL! (Pederson was hurt too, and probably should have been replaced much earlier. Nall only played a handful of snaps at the very end I think. I don't have that game recorded so can't review, but was there watching Nall try to mount one final drive towards us in the North end zone. I think he may have thrown just one pass!

[mission]

Nall actually wasn't even too bad that game if I recall correctly (didn't look as bad as Brohm). I remember thinkin he was going to be a decent backup after that game... I was halfway on his bandwagon.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Re: The Packers' Roster, the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

Ya, they lose an emergency game day QB, but can anybody tell me the last time the Packers played an emergency QB?

vs. Giants, 2004

Who was the qb? How many snaps.

After Favre concussion, they went to Pederson then to ...NALL! (Pederson was hurt too, and probably should have been replaced much earlier. Nall only played a handful of snaps at the very end I think. I don't have that game recorded so can't review, but was there watching Nall try to mount one final drive towards us in the North end zone. I think he may have thrown just one pass!

Ok.

But, i thought we were going to get something exciting like a ruvell playing. Having a qb as your emergency qb...well, that is nothing.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Nall actually wasn't even too bad that game if I recall correctly (didn't look as bad as Brohm). I remember thinkin he was going to be a decent backup after that game... I was halfway on his bandwagon.

Que Merlin and how Nall never got a chance...

[mraynrand]

Re: The Packers' Roster, the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

Ya, they lose an emergency game day QB, but can anybody tell me the last time the Packers played an emergency QB?

vs. Giants, 2004

Who was the qb? How many snaps.

After Favre concussion, they went to Pederson then to ...NALL! (Pederson was hurt too, and probably should have been replaced much earlier. Nall only played a handful of snaps at the very end I think. I don't have that game recorded so can't review, but was there watching Nall try to mount one final drive towards us in the North end zone. I think he may have thrown just one pass!

Ok.

But, i thought we were going to get something exciting like a ruvell playing. Having a qb as your emergency qb...well, that is nothing.

Unless it's T.J. Rubley - that game lives on in infamy. Even more exciting was when Mitchell (running back kick returner) got in a game for the Redskins years back. Not really wildcat, but a lot of tuck and run.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Re: The Packers' Roster, the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

Ya, they lose an emergency game day QB, but can anybody tell me the last time the Packers played an emergency QB?

vs. Giants, 2004

Who was the qb? How many snaps.

After Favre concussion, they went to Pederson then to ...NALL! (Pederson was hurt too, and probably should have been replaced much earlier. Nall only played a handful of snaps at the very end I think. I don't have that game recorded so can't review, but was there watching Nall try to mount one final drive towards us in the North end zone. I think he may have thrown just one pass!

Ok.

But, i thought we were going to get something exciting like a ruvell playing. Having a qb as your emergency qb...well, that is nothing.

Unless it's T.J. Rubley - that game lives on in infamy. Even more exciting was when Mitchell (running back kick returner) got in a game for the Redskins years back. Not really wildcat, but a lot of tuck and run.

Even rubley was a qb.

yeah, when a non qb plays. Like if the fins had to play the whole game with Ronnie brown....or the Raiders were fucked and went with McFadden.

[channtheman]

If your 3rd string QB is playing, you are already fucked.

[packrulz]

Packers | K. Hall, Kuhn likely will split time early

Tue, 08 Sep 2009 21:09:58 -0700

The Green Bay Press-Gazette reports Green Bay Packers FB Korey Hall and FB John Kuhn will likely split time early in the season. FB Quinn Johnson still has a long way to go.

Packers | J. Jones to be No. 3 WR

Tue, 08 Sep 2009 21:25:30 -0700

The Green Bay Press-Gazette reports Green Bay Packers WR James Jones beat out WR Jordy Nelson for the No. 3 wide receiver job.

[Fritz]

I was looking at the roster and wondering which guys will be game day inactives most of the time. I forgot how many game day inactives there are - is it six?

Some names I'm guessing might appear on that list early on: Jones, Johnson, Wynn.

[vince]

There are 8 inactives each week. Obviously, anyone injured and "out" for the game would be inactive. There is usually someone injured, which is why I believe the inactive rule came into being - to level the playing field and allow both teams to have 45 healthy bodies each.

If everyone were healthy, I think these would be the prime candidates...

Swain, Underwood, Havner, Wynn, Johnson, Jones, Deitrich-Smith, Lang, Wynn, Thompson