NFC North QB Race 2009

[Scott Campbell]

Brett has played lights out up until the 4th quarter of last week. Let's hope that his massive choke job against PIT is a sign of his usual impending late season collapse.

[pbmax]

The amazing part is that we're seeing pass defenses on 1st and 2nd down because we have Ryan "ordinary" Grant.

And they're seeing 8 in the box on 1st and 2nd down because they have Adrian "All Day" Peterson.

And our QB is having the better year.



Us seeing pass defense is fact. Them seeing 8 in the box is fact. Watch a Packer game and read Chilly's quote on how teams defend their offense.

I don't think they saw as much 8 in the box as you might surmise given their rushing totals versus the Packers last time. To wit Chilldress:

"They played nickel against our two-tight end sets last time. They played Woodson (in the nickel) and just elected to play it that way, probably because of (Visanthe) Shiancoe and his ability to get up the field. They didn’t want to get a linebacker in coverage necessarily. But … they could play their five-linebacker thing (Big Okie) that we thought we would see that they played the week before against St. Louis. That could be the flavor of the day this week. So, you have to prepare for all."

[Partial]

The amazing part is that we're seeing pass defenses on 1st and 2nd down because we have Ryan "ordinary" Grant.

And they're seeing 8 in the box on 1st and 2nd down because they have Adrian "All Day" Peterson.

And our QB is having the better year.



Us seeing pass defense is fact. Them seeing 8 in the box is fact. Watch a Packer game and read Chilly's quote on how teams defend their offense.

Both QBs are having great years but without a doubt in my opinion Favre has been better. Why? Because he was the primary play maker in the slaughtering against the Pack (it was not a close game, please do not come back and say that is was, they took their foot off the gas big time), they have a better record, and they look like a much more dangerous team to me.

Check the records again in 12 hours. There is no championship given out to the best team after 6 weeks. You should know that by now.

I agree, but that is NOT what YOU stated. He may have a better arm but he doesn't have the game down as well mentally.

[Partial]

Hey Harrell, after that abysmal first half are you sure you still believe that?

You were at the game so I'm hoping you were up high enough so you could really observer the QB play. Favre was dominant. Guy is lights out.

[packerbacker1234]

IMO Rodgers is the better QB right now. He makes all of the passes Brett makes and more. He's more mobile and he's a better teammate.

There is a schism that will open when these Vikes start losing. brINT has a long way to go.

Care to retract that a little? I never understood how Brett was a bad teammate, number one. Hell, the dude was right there, nealing by Jennings and talking to him, making sure he was ok and cracking jokes when he got up, and he's not even on his team anymore. Everyone on that vikings team (save most likely jackson and ronsenfels) like brett. Hell, he was actually talking with his wr's after the first drive they had to show him what he was seeing on there.

Brett has never been a bad teammate, so I hate this montra that now Rodgers is magically a better one. Also, he can't make all the passes brett can make yet, that was obvious. He doesn't have the experience or mindset of a favre. He is slow in making reads and decisions, and doesn't have nearly the quick release that Favre has.

So no, he can't make all the throws favre can. He can throw a better deep ball, and naturally can run with it. Favre showed yesterday, and really all season, that there are just things he does that are clear cut better then Rodgers.

It's not AR's fault. Favre is one of the best in the history of the game to play his position. It's not even fair to try and compare Rodgers after 1 and half seasons to that. Even at 40, Favre has never looked better.

[retailguy]

Hey Harrell, after that abysmal first half are you sure you still believe that?

You were at the game so I'm hoping you were up high enough so you could really observer the QB play. Favre was dominant. Guy is lights out.

he won't be back here for a while. he's no where to be found when they lose. check his archives....

[MJZiggy]

Hey Harrell, after that abysmal first half are you sure you still believe that?

You were at the game so I'm hoping you were up high enough so you could really observer the QB play. Favre was dominant. Guy is lights out.

he won't be back here for a while. he's no where to be found when they lose. check his archives....

All things considered, maybe that's for the best...

[retailguy]

Hey Harrell, after that abysmal first half are you sure you still believe that?

You were at the game so I'm hoping you were up high enough so you could really observer the QB play. Favre was dominant. Guy is lights out.

he won't be back here for a while. he's no where to be found when they lose. check his archives....

All things considered, maybe that's for the best...

agree with you. I met the guy at the same time you did, thought he was a really nice guy. don't know what happened since then, but am baffled. the guy hates me. don't have a clue what i did, other than disagree with him...

[packerbacker1234]

NFC North QB Ratings through week 8.

Aaron Rodgers: 110.4 It is the highest in the league overall.
Brett Favre: 106.0 Old man still has it, 4th best in the league only trailing Brees, Manning, and our man AR.
Jay Cutler: 80.8 Just seems to be having a hard time adjusting.
Lions: IT DOESN"T MATTER.

[g4orce]

anyone got the numbers?

[packerbacker1234]

Brett Favre: 106.0 - Notably only .1 behind the league leader, Drew Brees. Stat wise now that most QB's are even at 8 games - Favre has possibly the best overall stats at the QB position out of everyone in the top 5.

Aaron Rodgers: 103.3 - 7 point dip from this last game, not good. With a game against dallas one would think his rating wont be rising. Had a very favre like game on a bad day.

Jay Cutler: 83.8 - Who really knows what is going on with the bears. They may be the only team that is more up and down then we are.

Matthew Stafford: 55.8 - Not a lot of talent around him. But hell, at this point he may beat the pack on thanksgiving.

[MOBB DEEP]

Favre has possibly the best overall stats at the QB position out of everyone in the top 5.

huh? how's that?

[packerbacker1234]

Favre has possibly the best overall stats at the QB position out of everyone in the top 5.

huh? how's that?

Best TD to Int Ratio in the top 3 (Brees, Manning, Favre... no one else is really close to these guys right now) - He is behind in yards. Not "majorly" so, but again thats a product of the team. He has just as many big plays as the other two, and actually is big a reason for them being 7-1.

Stat wise, it's mostly TD to Int ratio's at this point. 16 TD's to 3int's I believe is the best ratio in the entire NFL.

[Rastak]

After week 10......


1. Favre 107.5 ( Never would have believed it)
2. Rodgers 103.3 (Outstanding)
3. Cutler 76.0 (yikes, Bears fans gotta be pissed)
4. Stafford 59.5 (Poor rook, took a pounding today)

[MichiganPackerFan]

Never expected to see that high out of #4, #12 is higher than I expected too.